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Gronk

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Assuming under the guise of creating jobs, economic growth etc....
If you freeze the play there; historically the libs have refused to give hand outs to say SPC but did so to Cadbury because it was a marginal seat.

I haven't looked, by a tingle in my groin tells me that Lark are in a marginal seat.

EDIT: The Distillery is in Pontville Tas.


Pontville is in the seat of Lyons.

Held by Labor ~ marginal seat by 5.2%. Last election the libs had a 16% swing away from them.

 

Bandwagon

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Um why do Lark need $4.5m of our cash ? They charge $195 per 500ml bottle FFS.


How are they gonna fund it?

Oh, sorry my bad, they'll fund it outta the 16 billion in the budget of "decisions not yet announced".
 

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And then the tax you get back from selling alcohol right?
You're way off.

Bruce Mathieson Snr invested in Lark Sept 2020. Mathieson Snr is worth $1.8 billion, ALH owner, partner of Woolworths, friend of Barnaby Joyce, Lib/Nat donor - so why is the PM giving Lark $4.5 million?

BTW do you know how many people Lark employ on a full time basis ? 8

 
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An interesting take on the "swinging voters" and the ways parties try to win them over each election.

[Their 2019 post-election review found] ...the ALP continued to lose support among a section of its traditional base of “lower-income … economically vulnerable workers living in outer-metropolitan, regional and rural Australia [who] have lost trust in politicians and political institutions”.

Political scientists politely call this group “low-information” or “low-engagement” voters. They are essentially the same cohort who swung to Donald Trump in the United States, to Boris Johnson in Britain, and to right-wing populists elsewhere in the world.

The political right has benefited hugely by frightening these voters, and the Morrison Liberals made easy meat of the ALP’s tax policies. The proposed franking credits reform was effectively described as a “retiree tax” and the Labor leader proposing the broader tax reform plan was labelled “the Bill you can’t afford”.

The Coalition parties not only campaigned relentlessly against the tax proposals Labor was putting up, but also, dishonestly, against tax changes Labor was not proposing, such as a “death tax”.

In the end, it was just too confusing for the low-information voters, and they decided no change was better than change they didn’t understand.

 

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I have so may questions

Isnt this just normal politicking? .... get a bunch of merkins who fit some narrative (local member, women, ethnic groups) to stand behind a politician and nod in agreement to what they say...... its been going on for a million years

Interesting that the ABC decided to put it to air tho .... those ABC rascals
 

Gronk

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Isnt this just normal politicking? .... get a bunch of merkins who fit some narrative (local member, women, ethnic groups) to stand behind a politician and nod in agreement to what they say...... its been going on for a million years

Interesting that the ABC decided to put it to air tho .... those ABC rascals
Nodding supporters is not what it's about.

It's scripted questions by some of the media and a willingness for retakes if the message wasn't delivered properly.

It was live, so unsure if ABC have control of such content.
 

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Nodding supporters is not what it's about.

It's scripted questions by some of the media.

It was live, so unsure if ABC have control of such content.
Its regularly scripted .... the fact he has a name for it, a "cleaner" shows its as common as f**k ... they arent asking him questions, he is just asking if they want to record more scripted announcements - its what they do

the only surprising thing there is that ABC obviously didnt tell em they were going live with it. They clearly set him up.
 

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Its regularly scripted .... the fact he has a name for it, a "cleaner" shows its as common as f**k ... they arent asking him questions, he is just asking if they want to record more scripted announcements - its what they do

the only surprising thing there is that ABC obviously didnt tell em they were going live with it. They clearly set him up.
Well you’re either making up your own background to this or you have inside info.

So I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Thanks.
 

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Well you’re either making up your own background to this or you have inside info.

So I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt. Thanks.
And you arent painting it a way you want to? ... who asks a question there? Barnaby is doing all the talking. The journos are just there to film it.

what am i even making up? Yes its an entirely organised thing ... im just saying what ive seen for years. That politicians do organised announcements and the media just tag along to broadcast it. Its nothing unusual .... the only thing out of the ordinary i see here is the ABC going live with it. Miscommunication? A setup?

Why didnt you post the video of Albo's press conference where a random rocked up and wanted to ask an unplanned question? .... Albo practically pooed his pants - said he is up for it (a question from a random) - then when the guy proceeded to ask albo told him he cant cos its only for journos ..... what does that say? That he was scared he would have to answer a real question? That he maybe organised everything else that was going to be asked? That he knows the journos there werent going to give him a hard time? ....... they all do it. Its the game ... and the media play along cos they want to be included.
 

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