OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[I'm a loser baby...]

Is he a Parra fan upset about the PM's selections?

 

[strider]

Was told something interesting yesterday, apparently the most underperforming articles on the SMH/TheAge (which translates to not many people reading them) are stories about climate change. Surprising.

 

[strider]

Other fun fact, the streaming service Stan was going to be called .... Ned .... but some Tasmanian held the legal rights to the name Ned and wouldnt give em up.

 

[Gronk]

Was told something interesting yesterday, apparently the most underperforming articles on the SMH/TheAge (which translates to not many people reading them) are stories about climate change. Surprising.

I think the issue of climate change is settled in most peoples minds and few are grey about it. There is the “just get it done camp” and then there are those with the opposite stance. Indeed the only thing to argue about these days is the % goals by 2030 or 2050. Occasionally you get the random heckler like Matt Canavan or Malcolm Roberts or Alan Jones.

Climate change - Lowy Institute Poll

What should Australia do about global warming?

poll.lowyinstitute.org

Of course we also have the global view where the cookers have switched their focus to the WEF Davos faceless men controlling the world via the Great Reset whereby the climate hoax figures significantly in their evil plans of control. Mwahahahaha.

 

[strider]

Well actually it was explained that they believe people, get that information elsewhere where more significant investment is made in that topic with the example given as the ABC.

 

[Gronk]

Well actually it was explained that they believe people, get that information elsewhere where more significant investment is made in that topic with the example given as the ABC.

When you say investment, I guess you are talking about the investment of time and the frequency of reporting ? Fair enough, because the new government is actually giving a f**k about it.

Albanese Government passes Climate Change Bill in the House of Representatives

The Albanese Government’s Climate Change Bill 2022 has passed the House of Representatives today. The Bill will enshrine into law an emissions reduction target of 43 per cent from 2005 levels by 2030 and net zero emissions by 2050. It has brought together business, industry, unions, farmers...

www.pm.gov.au

 

[Chipmunk]

I don't normally comment on current affairs and politics, as it is an NRL forum after all, but is there actually any data published that demonstrates exactly what the decrease in global emissions and the earths temperature will be in 2030 as a direct result of Australia committing to 43% by 2030, instead of whatever it was before (28 or something maybe?).

Also, is there data that demonstrates exactly what the decrease in global emissions and the earths temperature will be in 2050 as a direct result of Australia committing to Net Zero by 2050?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Other fun fact, the streaming service Stan was going to be called .... Ned .... but some Tasmanian held the legal rights to the name Ned and wouldnt give em up.

They also wanted to call it Gary and I told them to "f**k of".

 

[Gary Gutful]

I don't normally comment on current affairs and politics, as it is an NRL forum after all, but is there actually any data published that demonstrates exactly what the decrease in global emissions and the earths temperature will be in 2030 as a direct result of Australia committing to 43% by 2030, instead of whatever it was before (28 or something maybe?).

Also, is there data that demonstrates exactly what the decrease in global emissions and the earths temperature will be in 2050 as a direct result of Australia committing to Net Zero by 2050?

A draft data set has been prepared. Its being peer reviewed by Hollywood Jesus.

 

[Chipmunk]

A draft data set has been prepared. Its being peer reviewed by Hollywood Jesus.

You'll have to explain the meaning behind this comment.

 

[Gary Gutful]

You'll have to explain the meaning behind this comment.

He was the self-proclaimed expert on the topic a few years back.

 

[Bandwagon]

I don't normally comment on current affairs and politics, as it is an NRL forum after all, but is there actually any data published that demonstrates exactly what the decrease in global emissions and the earths temperature will be in 2030 as a direct result of Australia committing to 43% by 2030, instead of whatever it was before (28 or something maybe?).

Also, is there data that demonstrates exactly what the decrease in global emissions and the earths temperature will be in 2050 as a direct result of Australia committing to Net Zero by 2050?

No

Though Australia acting on it's own will make f**k all difference.

Fortunately that's not the case, so it doesn't really warrant much consideration.

 

[Chipmunk]

No

Though Australia acting on it's own will make f**k all difference.

Fortunately that's not the case, so it doesn't really warrant much consideration.

Ok, so is there any data that demonstrates exactly what the decrease in global emissions and the earths temperature will be in 2030 and 2050 from all of these countries taking all these measures? I assume there is??

 

[King-Gutho94]

Family separations and pregnancy termination: Hawthorn racism review reveals shock allegations against former coaches

Alastair Clarkson and Chris Fagan are named in a Hawthorn review into how First Nations players were treated during Clarkson's time at the helm of the Hawks. Warning — this story contains details of self-harm, pregnancy loss, and intergenerational trauma for Indigenous people.

www.abc.net.au

Pretty disgusting and embarrassing for the AFL especially with these allegations coming out on there biggest week of the year being the AFL GF.

I would hope this doesn't happen in the NRL clubs but nothing would surprise me anymore.

 

[Bandwagon]

Ok, so is there any data that demonstrates exactly what the decrease in global emissions and the earths temperature will be in 2030 and 2050 from all of these countries taking all these measures? I assume there is??

There's plenty of stuff out there that shows or more properly attempts to show the effects of various levels of measures over time.

You have to understand though that there's no "exactly", 'cause it's all modelling and models are far from perfect. Also the prevailing thought at this point in time is that no matter what we do we will not reverse rises that have already been baked in, we'll only now limit those rises to certain levels.

 

[Chipmunk]

There's plenty of stuff out there that shows or more properly attempts to show the effects of various levels of measures over time.

You have to understand though that there's no "exactly", 'cause it's all modelling and models are far from perfect. Also the prevailing thought at this point in time is that no matter what we do we will not reverse rises that have already been baked in, we'll only now limit those rises to certain levels.

Fair enough.

So what exactly does Net Zero by 2050 for Australia look like? If is "Net Zero", I assume you can do things like continue to mine and expert coal, but you can't have any planes flying around the country to offset that? (I'm using an extreme example I realise.)

 

[Gronk]

Fair enough.

So what exactly does Net Zero by 2050 for Australia look like? If is "Net Zero", I assume you can do things like continue to mine and expert coal, but you can't have any planes flying around the country to offset that? (I'm using an extreme example I realise.)

The Poms reckon that they will achieve net zero from the following:

The plan focuses on increasing ambition in the following areas:

• advancing offshore wind
• driving the growth of low carbon hydrogen
• delivering new and advanced nuclear power
• accelerating the shift to zero emission vehicles
• green public transport, cycling and walking
• ‘jet zero’ and green ships
• greener buildings
• investing in carbon capture, usage and storage
• protecting our natural environment
• green finance and innovation

The ten point plan will mobilise £12 billion of government investment, and potentially 3 times as much from the private sector, to create and support up to 250,000 green jobs.

The ten point plan for a green industrial revolution

The ten point plan sets out the approach government will take to build back better, support green jobs, and accelerate our path to net zero.

www.gov.uk

 

[Chipmunk]

The Poms reckon that they will achieve net zero from the following:

The plan focuses on increasing ambition in the following areas:

• advancing offshore wind
• driving the growth of low carbon hydrogen
• delivering new and advanced nuclear power
• accelerating the shift to zero emission vehicles
• green public transport, cycling and walking
• ‘jet zero’ and green ships
• greener buildings
• investing in carbon capture, usage and storage
• protecting our natural environment
• green finance and innovation

The ten point plan will mobilise £12 billion of government investment, and potentially 3 times as much from the private sector, to create and support up to 250,000 green jobs.

The ten point plan for a green industrial revolution

The ten point plan sets out the approach government will take to build back better, support green jobs, and accelerate our path to net zero.

www.gov.uk

OK, so there is one key point there, they're planning on 'delivering new and advanced nuclear power' which will provide base load power.

What are we planning to use for base load power instead?

I've always found that we're very hypocritical here as a country, we're one of biggest exporters of uranium for nuclear power in the world, but we refuse to use it ourselves. I assume we will go the same way with coal eventually?

 

[Bandwagon]

Fair enough.

So what exactly does Net Zero by 2050 for Australia look like? If is "Net Zero", I assume you can do things like continue to mine and expert coal, but you can't have any planes flying around the country to offset that? (I'm using an extreme example I realise.)

Net is net, so emissions less absorption. So for every bit of emission created, it's offset by the same amount removed from the atmosphere.

A simple example would be if a mature tree absorbs the same amount of carbon as emitted by a car, you would need to have an extra mature tree for every car being used.

Obviously it gets a hell of lot more complicated than that, for example with the export of coal who's responsible for the emissions of burning it? The place of origin that benefited from the profit from the sale, or the place of consumption that benefited from the energy produced?

 

[Chipmunk]

Net is net, so emissions less absorption. So for every bit of emission created, it's offset by the same amount removed from the atmosphere.

A simple example would be if a mature tree absorbs the same amount of carbon as emitted by a car, you would need to have an extra mature tree for every car being used.

Obviously it gets a hell of lot more complicated than that, for example with the export of coal who's responsible for the emissions of burning it? The place of origin that benefited from the profit from the sale, or the place of consumption that benefited from the energy produced?

Does the coal we export now not count towards Australia's global emissions?