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strider

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Half cocked ? It was you who said that he’s “pretty f**king obvious he rustled feathers and has been taken down”. That implies that it’s a targeted / premeditated arrest to silence or punish him because reasons. Sounds like you’re backing away from that.
What am i backing away from?

IMO some media organisations and the UK govt have decided to target him because they dont like what he is saying publicly to a large audience.
I dont believe it is a coincidence that they suddenly went digging up his skeletons from 10-15 years ago.
He isn't "arrested" - the police werent involved. Why not? Probably because its more about character assassination than actual justice.

I have not defended him. I always thought he was a sleeze and would not be at all surprised if he he did bad shit.
 

Gronk

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100s of thousands of people dont die is the correct result
Russia won’t walk away without land, insist that a pro Russian leader be placed in charge and Ukraine never be accepted into NATO.

Its ridiculous notion that peace is simply achieved. Trump reckons he can stop it tomorrow. Of course he can, cos he’s pro Russia and he will acquiesce like a pussy, yet make it sound like a great achievement.

As I said in the analogy above, how much of the top end would you give Indonesia to stop the war ? You can’t fold to tyrants.
 

Gronk

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Old mate Kamahl has provided an update. Lots to unpack there. Personally I don’t think he gets it, however his position may very well represent how many see this referendum. <sad face>
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strider

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Russia won’t walk away without land, insist that a pro Russian leader be placed in charge and Ukraine never be accepted into NATO.

Its ridiculous notion that peace is simply achieved. Trump reckons he can stop it tomorrow. Of course he can, cos he’s pro Russia and he will acquiesce like a pussy, yet make it sound like a great achievement.

As I said in the analogy above, how much of the top end would you give Indonesia to stop the war ? You can’t fold to tyrants.
We already played that game ...

I reply, it depends how many ethnic indonesians we have been killing in the top end and whether the USA have a desperate anti Indonesia campaign running.
Then you reply, sounds like you listen to russian propaganda.
Then i reply, you realise you get propagandised too.
Then you reply, oh well i tried [to educate the plebs who know nothing, cos thats what you think is your crusade].


Its a dumb comparison anyway, cos there is literally a world of difference between ukraine-russia and australia-indonesia.
 

Gronk

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We already played that game ...

I reply, it depends how many ethnic indonesians we have been killing in the top end and whether the USA have a desperate anti Indonesia campaign running.
Then you reply, sounds like you listen to russian propaganda.
Then i reply, you realise you get propagandised too.
Then you reply, oh well i tried [to educate the plebs who know nothing, cos thats what you think is your crusade].


Its a dumb comparison anyway, cos there is literally a word of difference between ukraine-russia and australia-indonesia.
You’ve totally lost me.

“Peace” is give Russia whatver they want. Not negotiable.

Do you support this or do you think that there are alternative solutions?
 

strider

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Of course they have to negotiate.

The yanks seem endlessly happy to just pour in billions (its a profitable money cycle too) and let 10s/100s of thousands get killed .... cos, as they have said themselves, its about weakening russia.
 

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Of course they have to negotiate.

The yanks seem endlessly happy to just pour in billions (its a profitable money cycle too) and let 10s/100s of thousands get killed .... cos, as they have said themselves, its about weakening russia.
You're dancing around the solution and focused on some sort of "america is the real aggressor here" thing.

As much as the USA are tipping in cash to this Russian invasion into Ukraine, there are eleventy bordering NATO countries like Poland Finland that are supplying billions in jets etc because they are shitting themselves over what the future of what sovereignty in that region looks like.

"Of couse they need to negotiate" is something that's been said to the Israelis for decades. They are, of course, a very willing participant. However we all know how they talk a lot whilst the west bank shrinks and the world ignores it.

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King-Gutho94

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Anyone reckon that arsehole Alan Joyce will ever step foot in Australia ever again.

He has left the country to dodge the senate inquiry. And with 24million in the bank he has no reason to return to cop a grilling & answer any questions. Unless he is prosecuted.

 

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Anyone reckon that arsehole Alan Joyce will ever step foot in Australia ever again.

He has left the country to dodge the senate inquiry. And with 24million in the bank he has no reason to return to cop a grilling & answer any questions. Unless he is prosecuted.

He was running a private company, so really they can GGF. Unless of course charges are laid by ASIC over the selling of cancelled tickets, but that will just be a fine. Whilst the operation and reputation nose-dived during his tenure, his job was to drag the carrier into profit and he did that. It was messy at the end and what resulted was cash in the bank but a long standing reputation in tatters. So tick but ultimately a fail.

A family friend was CEO of a big 4 bank until a few years ago. There was a enquiry (RC) and a messy departure. Ask anyone about him or the circumstances now and they would struggle to remember TBH. Did it happen whilst he was at the wheel ? Yes. Was it his fault ? Of course not. Should he take the blame ? Yes, that is what is expected. LIfe goes on.

Qantas will bounce back, give a lot of airfares away, fly on time and all will be forgiven methinks. Lots of nice TV ads.
 
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Russia won’t walk away without land, insist that a pro Russian leader be placed in charge and Ukraine never be accepted into NATO.
Its ridiculous notion that peace is simply achieved. Trump reckons he can stop it tomorrow. Of course he can, cos he’s pro Russia and he will acquiesce like a pussy, yet make it sound like a great achievement.

As I said in the analogy above, how much of the top end would you give Indonesia to stop the war ? You can’t fold to tyrants.
It’s too far-fetched a hypothetical to deal with sanely Gronky.

Im calling for an immediate cease fire and direct talks.

We have to start somewhere.

14000 dead, hundreds of thousands injured etc.
 

King-Gutho94

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He was running a private company, so really they can GGF. Unless of course charges are laid by ASIC over the selling of cancelled tickets, but that will just be a fine. Whilst the operation and reputation nose-dived during his tenure, his job was to drag the carrier into profit and he did that. It was messy at the end and what resulted was cash in the bank but a long standing reputation in tatters. So tick but ultimately a fail.

A family friend was CEO of a big 4 bank until a few years ago. There was a enquiry (RC) and a messy departure. Ask anyone about him or the circumstances now and they would struggle to remember TBH. Did it happen whilst he was at the wheel ? Yes. Was it his fault ? Of course not. Should he take the blame ? Yes, that is what is expected. LIfe goes on.

Qantas will bounce back, give a lot of airfares away, fly on time and all will be forgiven methinks. Lots of nice TV ads.
They will bounce back but gee its going to take a long time to remove the stench of this. A lot of people are pissed off how they have been treated and the time wasted trying to get credit back.

I have to go to the UK for a wedding next september.

Sydney To London - Singapore Airlines is $500 cheaper then Qantas one way.

Both have just one stop over as well. And both have about 27-28 hours in transit.

Why would i go with Qantas when Singapore is cheaper its a great airline they have an outstanding airport to relax at for a 4-5 hour layover. And in reality are just as safe as Qantas.

I just got back from a world tour last August and had 10 flights across the world i didn't fly Qantas once. Because they charge more then these other carriers.

I used them when i went to Adelaide for origin.

But in terms of overseas unless they drag there prices down below with these other airlines i wont deal with them.
 

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