OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Suitman]

He is but at the moment, he’s shockingly their best chance too

Well, that reaffirms my point, sadly.

 

[strider]

How many of those charges are made up from opposition?

Im sure he has done shit, but most of what they are throwing at him would never be given legs against anyone else

and then a bunch of it is trumped up bullshit (pun intended) just aimed at makin him look bad In the hope people just blindly believe it - and of course mud sticks even if it is made up/exagerated mud

 

[strider]

In all honesty I'm going to be keeping an extra eye on my investments during 2024 going forward. It could end up being a highly toxic environment come U.S. election time. I feel it in my waters.

It honestly wouldnt surprise me if there was something like a civil war in the usa in our lifetimes ... and potentially split in two

 

[Gronk]

Im sure he has done shit, but most of what they are throwing at him would never be given legs against anyone else

and then a bunch of it is trumped up bullshit (pun intended) just aimed at makin him look bad In the hope people just blindly believe it - and of course mud sticks even if it is made up/exagerated mud

Let’s put aside the top secret docs he kept under his bed and his racketeering in NYC. Let’s hypothetically put that into the category of mud sticks, politically motivated, Putin-like going after his opposition charges.

What you can’t ignore however is his conduct post 2020 election. First you have the Georgia charges of trying to overturn election results. The perfect phone call, where he litterally pressured the merkin to find 11k votes.

These are not trumped up charges. He was indicted under a Grand Jury. Meaning that evidence is presented and it is determined that the evidence had enough legs to hold charges. Biden does not makes these decisions, democrats don’t makes these decisions. Lawyers either.


“A grand jury was impaneled over the summer, and on Aug. 14, it returned an indictment against Trump and 18 allies on charges of election fraud, racketeering and other counts related to alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election.

Those charged include Giuliani and Meadows as well as John Eastman, a conservative lawyer; Jeffrey Clark, a Trump Justice Department official; and Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis, lawyers who pushed baseless claims of voter fraud.

“Georgia's Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, better known as RICO, allows the group to be charged for criminal acts that are alleged to have taken place both in Georgia or outside the state in furtherance of the conspiracy to overturn the outcome of the presidential election in Georgia.

The 98-page indictment lists 41 total counts, including 13 against Trump, and notes there are 30 unindicted co-conspirators. “ LINK


Then you have the charges he is facing for obstruction of the peaceful transition of power on Jan 6. As much as you might say he had nothing to do with it, almost everyone in his bunker has turned witness against him.

Im not surprised that you don’t see this, have it blocked from your memory or convinced yourself that the facts are something different. I have seen way too many merkins interviewed in redneck states dismiss these allegations outright, blame the CIA or ANTIFA. Red flag opperations.

 

[strider]

Well im hardly surprised you felt the need to reply with a jolly good gronksplaining.

I realise you think everything is 100% legit.

Like i said, im sure he has done shit, but i dont believe they would have done it to others.

 

[strider]

Ive said it before, ... i find it amazing how incredibly obsessed people are over trump. Never seen anything like it. Such hate.

Yes he is a completely self absorbed, narcisstic, rude dick. Totally agree. Others are too.

i think most pollies turn on some fake charm at times to win people. Trump doesnt. Well he does it differently.
I think he comes from big business where you act like a tough guy and dominate your way to power. And he thinks he can do that in politics too.

Anyway. He gets 4 more yrs max (2 terms). The world wont end in that time if you just accept you have to put up with him for that period n then move on. But people cant. They have been worked up into a frenzy by those that are shit scared of trump making it hard to pull the strings behind the scenes .... yay america.

 

[Gronk]

Well im hardly surprised you felt the need to reply with a jolly good gronksplaining.

I realise you think everything is 100% legit.

Like i said, im sure he has done shit, but i dont believe they would have done it to others.

I'm not surprised you feel uncomfortable about being challenged. As for your gronksplain thing, its the politics thread. Stop being a pussy.

So what of the things i just quoted do you think that they would have let slide to others ?

"Im sure he's done bad things, but..." is reallly a cop out.

As if in our country we would tolerate for one second interference with the electoral process or the peaceful transition of power. If you concede that he was involved then he should be run out of town, never to be allowed to hold any position of public authority again. Surely you agree with this ?

 

[Gronk]

Ive said it before, ... i find it amazing how incredibly obsessed people are over trump. Never seen anything like it. Such hate.

Yes he is a completely self absorbed, narcisstic, rude dick. Totally agree. Others are too.

i think most pollies turn on some fake charm at times to win people. Trump doesnt. Well he does it differently.
I think he comes from big business where you act like a tough guy and dominate your way to power. And he thinks he can do that in politics too.

Anyway. He gets 4 more yrs max (2 terms). The world wont end in that time if you just accept you have to put up with him for that period n then move on. But people cant. They have been worked up into a frenzy by those that are shit scared of trump making it hard to pull the strings behind the scenes .... yay america.

Australians are obsessed with US politics and woukd be talking about it Trump or not.

But yeah having Mr Magoo and Sleepy Joe as candidates for 2024 wont make it go away either.

 

[Incorrect]

Ive said it before, ... i find it amazing how incredibly obsessed people are over trump. Never seen anything like it. Such hate.

Yes he is a completely self absorbed, narcisstic, rude dick. Totally agree. Others are too.

i think most pollies turn on some fake charm at times to win people. Trump doesnt. Well he does it differently.
I think he comes from big business where you act like a tough guy and dominate your way to power. And he thinks he can do that in politics too.

Anyway. He gets 4 more yrs max (2 terms). The world wont end in that time if you just accept you have to put up with him for that period n then move on. But people cant. They have been worked up into a frenzy by those that are shit scared of trump making it hard to pull the strings behind the scenes .... yay america.

I think there's plenty of critics who are just jealous of his wealth and that his wife is a lot hotter than anything they've banged in their lifetime... It's OK to admit it and just let him get on with governing IMO....

 

[hindy111]

Australians are obsessed with US politics and woukd be talking about it Trump or not.

But yeah having Mr Magoo and Sleepy Joe as candidates for 2024 wont make it go away either.

I don't think so. When Trump was in he made our news most days. Biden maybe once a week.
When Trump was in was he that terrible? Was he far worse then previous presidents? Did he do any good things?

 

[hineyrulz]

In 2016 there was a disease that hit the globe called TDS, Trump derangement syndrome. There is no known cure apparently. 8 long years and it’s still around longer than Covid ffs!!

 

[bazza]

I cannot believe a country the size of the US of A can continually offer up such a poor choice of candidates. I mean - REALLY POOR.
What a sad sack of a country that is.
TBF, we aren't much better here.

the candidates seem to match what is expected from each side
the right just want someone who will blame everyone else for their problems and piss off as many people on the other side as possible. Donald does this better than anyone else

the left are so scared of doing anything for fear of being criticised they need someone who does nothing. Also can't have anyone too young/brown/female because there could be 1% of potential voters who won't like this (though they were never going to vote for them anyway). A 500 year old man that can barely move or talk seems to fit the bill here

 

[bazza]

I don't think so. When Trump was in he made our news most days. Biden maybe once a week.
When Trump was in was he that terrible? Was he far worse then previous presidents? Did he do any good things?

he said weird shit and did nothing
His worst thing was probably giving jobs in the government to his "friends" that they weren't qualified for

 

[JokerEel]

can you imagine MAGA idiots going into meltdown if Harris took over?

Oh it would be halarious just if and when Trump wins again.

 

[Stagger eel]

Oh it would be halarious just if and when Trump wins again.

oh I agree...particularly if you don't live there like most of us here.

plenty of popcorn moments to look forward to.

 

[Stagger eel]

I think there's plenty of critics who are just jealous of his wealth and that his wife is a lot hotter than anything they've banged in their lifetime... It's OK to admit it and just let him get on with governing IMO....

I highly doubt he even bangs her tbh.

 

[King-Gutho94]

In 2016 there was a disease that hit the globe called TDS, Trump derangement syndrome. There is no known cure apparently. 8 long years and it’s still around longer than Covid ffs!!

A cure would be drinking some bleech i reckon.

 

[Gronk]

he said weird shit and did nothing
His worst thing was probably giving jobs in the government to his "friends" that they weren't qualified for

A cure would be drinking some bleech i reckon.

Accidental Poisonings Increased After President Trump's Disinfectant Comments

Disinfectant poisonings were up as much as 121% in April

time.com

 

[strider]

I'm not surprised you feel uncomfortable about being challenged. As for your gronksplain thing, its the politics thread. Stop being a pussy.

So what of the things i just quoted do you think that they would have let slide to others ?

"Im sure he's done bad things, but..." is reallly a cop out.

As if in our country we would tolerate for one second interference with the electoral process or the peaceful transition of power. If you concede that he was involved then he should be run out of town, never to be allowed to hold any position of public authority again. Surely you agree with this ?

Ummmmm .... as we always say, only in America .... its a f**kin basket case .... theres a gazilluon things that go on there that are fcked up that id hope never happen here.

For the record, i think Jan 6th was a violent protest. It wasnt a coup or any legit attempt to overthrow government. I also think it was intentionally allowed to happen by people who knew it would look bad for Trump. Why did Nancy Pelosi delay the national guard when requested? Why was there such insufficient security to start with when they knew it was gonna be big? Ray Epps, dodgiest shit ever ffs!!

 

[strider]

Oh it would be halarious just if and when Trump wins again.

It would be hilarious for a short time watching derranged imbeciles implode

but then it would be a ticking time bomb that will explode, cos people clearly cant handle the concept of him being predident

riots like hell. Ive read he intends to deport the 8 million n counting illegals they have let walk in and distributed through the country, many of which are young men - IF he tries that he will be asking for a f**kload of trouble.