OT: Current Affairs and Politics

[Gronk]

Ummmmm .... as we always say, only in America .... its a f**kin basket case .... theres a gazilluon things that go on there that are fcked up that id hope never happen here.

For the record, i think Jan 6th was a violent protest. It wasnt a coup or any legit attempt to overthrow government. I also think it was intentionally allowed to happen by people who knew it would look bad for Trump. Why did Nancy Pelosi delay the national guard when requested? Why was there such insufficient security to start with when they knew it was gonna be big? Ray Epps, dodgiest shit ever ffs!!

There seems to be a bit of blame shifting here. Trump still had the keys and did nothing.

‘Do you believe this?’: New video shows how Nancy Pelosi took charge in Capitol riot

House speaker continued to try to find a way for House and Senate to reconvene despite turmoil

www.theguardian.com

 

[strider]

There seems to be a bit of blame shifting here. Trump still had the keys and did nothing.

‘Do you believe this?’: New video shows how Nancy Pelosi took charge in Capitol riot

House speaker continued to try to find a way for House and Senate to reconvene despite turmoil

www.theguardian.com

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Democrats had control of it at that point. The President doesnt control that building.
Pelosi was the Speaker or whatever the f**k its called, she had the power and WAS asked to send in the national guard and stalled for about 90 minutes. Then they shipped in merkins from much further away.

 

[Gronk]

Democrats had control of it at that point. The President doesnt control that building.
Pelosi was the Speaker or whatever the f**k its called, she had the power and WAS asked to send in the national guard and stalled for about 90 minutes. Then they shipped in merkins from much further away.

Nah, that's been discredited time and time again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/28/false-gop-claim-that-pelosi-turned-down-national-guard-before-jan-6-attack/

Pelosi did not block the National Guard from the Capitol on Jan. 6

On Tuesday, a false claim about the deadly Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol resurfaced suggesting that Pelosi blocked the National Guard from coming to lawmakers’ defense during the insurrection at the Capitol.

apnews.com

Fact check: Trump repeats false claim that Pelosi rejected request for National Guard ahead of Jan. 6

Donald Trump recently repeated the false claim that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected his request for 10,000 National Guard troops ahead of Jan. 6.

www.usatoday.com

 

[JokerEel]

the US is just entertainment value

just about every day there is something trending on Twitter about Trump or some other politician

That's how I see it. Joe wins more laughs at the old bloke Trump wins laughs at everyone losing their minds. Win-Win!

 

[bazza]

riots like hell. Ive read he intends to deport the 8 million n counting illegals they have let walk in and distributed through the country, many of which are young men - IF he tries that he will be asking for a f**kload of trouble.

what makes you think he will actually do anything but complain if he gets another go?

 

[Gronk]

what makes you think he will actually do anything but complain if he gets another go?

 

[strider]

Nah, that's been discredited time and time again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/28/false-gop-claim-that-pelosi-turned-down-national-guard-before-jan-6-attack/

Pelosi did not block the National Guard from the Capitol on Jan. 6

On Tuesday, a false claim about the deadly Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol resurfaced suggesting that Pelosi blocked the National Guard from coming to lawmakers’ defense during the insurrection at the Capitol.

apnews.com

Fact check: Trump repeats false claim that Pelosi rejected request for National Guard ahead of Jan. 6

Donald Trump recently repeated the false claim that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected his request for 10,000 National Guard troops ahead of Jan. 6.

www.usatoday.com

Not according to the guy in charge who was asking for help.

More f**ked checking

 

[Eelogical]

This thread has become like us trying to tell Penriff how to win a Premiership.

 

[strider]

Nah, that's been discredited time and time again.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/28/false-gop-claim-that-pelosi-turned-down-national-guard-before-jan-6-attack/

Pelosi did not block the National Guard from the Capitol on Jan. 6

On Tuesday, a false claim about the deadly Jan. 6 riot at the Capitol resurfaced suggesting that Pelosi blocked the National Guard from coming to lawmakers’ defense during the insurrection at the Capitol.

apnews.com

Fact check: Trump repeats false claim that Pelosi rejected request for National Guard ahead of Jan. 6

Donald Trump recently repeated the false claim that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected his request for 10,000 National Guard troops ahead of Jan. 6.

www.usatoday.com

do you wven read these things?

They just say Pelosi denies she turned down the request prior to the event and that there is no record of her being asked. And that she was only the person others report to (along with brain dead mcconnell). ... doesnt prove jack shit.

It does however agree that there was insufficient security organised and that it took hours for the national guard to turn up (hmmmmm, wonder why).

The 2nd f**ked check just says other f**ked checks said so .... lol

So cool .... lets not put it on Nancy. But it seems obvious it was completely under resourced when they knew how many people were coming. And that it took hours for the cavalry to arrive.

The dude incharge at the place on the day quit cos he was hung out to dry. He is the one who says he was told they have to get it approved by nancy and will get back to him. And that it took over an hour before they said they would send anyone .... and then they sent em from a long way away.

seems suss as f**k to me.

 

[strider]

Oh and yeah, trump wasnt incharge on the building.

 

[strider]

what makes you think he will actually do anything but complain if he gets another go?

Of course he will complain that all the problems are the previous mobs fault ..... but thats how it works apparently.

 

[Gronk]

do you wven read these things?

They just say Pelosi denies she turned down the request prior to the event and that there is no record of her being asked. And that she was only the person others report to (along with brain dead mcconnell). ... doesnt prove jack shit.

It does however agree that there was insufficient security organised and that it took hours for the national guard to turn up (hmmmmm, wonder why).

The 2nd f**ked check just says other f**ked checks said so .... lol

So cool .... lets not put it on Nancy. But it seems obvious it was completely under resourced when they knew how many people were coming. And that it took hours for the cavalry to arrive.

The dude incharge at the place on the day quit cos he was hung out to dry. He is the one who says he was told they have to get it approved by nancy and will get back to him. And that it took over an hour before they said they would send anyone .... and then they sent em from a long way away.

seems suss as f**k to me.

Right, so there wouldn’t have been an insurrection if merkins had done better to stop it ? More blame shifting. Everyone’s fault except Trump. Is that how it works ?

 

[Gronk]

Oh and yeah, trump wasnt incharge on the building.

He was still the Commander in Chief that morning when he woke up.

Why where they there anyway ?

Called to action by Trump,[39][40] thousands of his supporters gathered in Washington, D.C., on January 5 and 6 to support his false claim that the 2020 election had been "stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats"[41][42][43][44] and to demand that Vice President Mike Pence and Congress reject Biden's victory.[45]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_6_United_States_Capitol_attack#:~:text=Called%20to%20action%20by%20Trump,and%20Congress%20reject%20Biden's%20victory.

Your semantics are pointless.

 

[strider]

Well your posts are pointless, but anyway.

I never said Trump was faultless. He should have spoken out earlier when it got out of hand.

But i feel pretty confident in the belief that it has been blown out of proportion and that it was allowed to happen.

 

[Eelogical]

Anyway, at this time that the Eels LU side of the forum are united for another year of harmony like never before I thought it would be appropriate to vote Hindy111 Australian Of The Year. I know he prefers rabbit, but I'm sure he likes lamb as well. Sometimes on the BBQ.

 

[bazza]

Of course he will complain that all the problems are the previous mobs fault ..... but thats how it works apparently.

yes - Donald is the same as the rest of them - just more comical (not on purpose)

 

[hindy111]

Anyway, at this time that the Eels LU side of the forum are united for another year of harmony like never before I thought it would be appropriate to vote Hindy111 Australian Of The Year. I know he prefers rabbit, but I'm sure he likes lamb as well. Sometimes on the BBQ.

They call it survival day where I live. I might fire my cube up and cook up a chop

 

[Eelogical]

They call it survival day where I live. I might fire my cube up and cook up a chop

I never stated a day, merkin.

 

[Gronk]

Well your posts are pointless, but anyway.

I never said Trump was faultless. He should have spoken out earlier when it got out of hand.

But i feel pretty confident in the belief that it has been blown out of proportion and that it was allowed to happen.

How are my posts pointless ? Explain.

He should have spoken out earlier? Thank you. How about he should never have misled people that the election was stolen, should never have allowed his ego to prevent him from accepting defeat like every POTUS before him ? Instead, he convinced his sheeple that it was Venezuela and he had the evidence. All supported by his disciples. Even today, he can’t admit that he lost. What did that cluster f**k of lies and ego create ?

Now tell me how it was blown out of proportion.

 

[JokerEel]

How are my posts pointless ? Explain.

He should have spoken out earlier? Thank you. How about he should never have misled people that the election was stolen, should never have allowed his ego to prevent him from accepting defeat like every POTUS before him ? Instead, he convinced his sheeple that it was Venezuela and he had the evidence. All supported by his disciples. Even today, he can’t admit that he lost. What did that cluster f**k of lies and ego create ?

Now tell me how it was blown out of proportion.

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Aaand after all that you would not think he would have a chance to run and win the presidential election but here we are..