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strider

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BTW, i dont think its a forgone conclusion that Biden runs in the election. Probably still time to parachute in an alternative .... now seem to be many within openly saying concerns about his ability, plus allowing truth to come out like the laptop lies

i never thought the puppet would see out his first term, but maybe they just decided his cackling dimwitted sidekick was gonna do more damage than he would.
 
Gronk

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strider said:


So why did 54 intelligence experts all lie? And all the media jump onboard the bandwagon .... doin' it for the cause ..... he who claims "misinformation/disinformation" the most also spreads it the most
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This is always reported as how “Joe Biden’s family” or Joe Biden and his family”, yet all that has come from this entire saga is the taxman getting grumpy over Hunter’s undeclared income and getting a gun when he was using meth. Oh sorry, and the dick picks. In reality it’s not about Joe, it’s just throwing mud.

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The timing of the release of the lap top of course was merely a return serve over Trump’s first impeachment.

A little reminder..


First Impeachment (2019-2020)

Circumstances:

1. Ukraine Scandal: The first impeachment was initiated in response to allegations that Trump solicited foreign interference in the 2020 U.S. presidential election.
2. Phone Call with Ukrainian President: A key event was a July 25, 2019, phone call in which Trump asked Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter Biden, who had business dealings in Ukraine.
3. Withholding Aid: It was alleged that Trump withheld nearly $400 million in military aid to Ukraine and a White House meeting to pressure Zelensky into launching the investigations.

Articles of Impeachment:

1. Abuse of Power: For allegedly leveraging his presidential power to solicit foreign interference for personal political gain.
2. Obstruction of Congress: For allegedly obstructing the House investigation by directing officials and agencies to ignore subpoenas and not cooperate with the inquiry.

Outcome:

• The House of Representatives voted to impeach Trump on December 18, 2019.
• The Senate trial resulted in his acquittal on February 5, 2020. The vote largely followed party lines, with all Democrats and a few independents voting to convict, and the majority of Republicans voting to acquit.


Then, Murdoch released the laptop. On October 14, 2020, the New York Post published a story based on emails allegedly retrieved from a laptop (I wonder how much it cost them) that Hunter Biden had supposedly left at a Delaware computer repair shop. The article claimed the emails showed Hunter Biden’s business dealings in Ukraine and suggested potential conflicts of interest involving his father, Joe Biden, who was then the Democratic presidential nominee.

Of course this became a major point of contention in the 2020 election. The public didn’t buy it, yet the MAGAs are still whining.

Meanwhile, Trump’s children are made of the same Teflon like their Dad. How the f**k did they not do time for fraud / misappropriation ? Time to stop whinging methinks.


The Trump Foundation

1. Allegations: The New York Attorney General’s office alleged that the Trump Foundation engaged in a pattern of illegal conduct, including self-dealing, misusing charitable assets, and violating campaign finance laws. Specifically, it was accused of:
• Using foundation funds to settle legal disputes involving Trump businesses.
• Using charity funds to purchase personal items, such as a portrait of Donald Trump.
• Making political contributions, which are prohibited for charitable organizations.
• Coordinating with the Trump presidential campaign to use the foundation’s assets for political purposes.
2. Investigation and Lawsuit: In June 2018, the New York Attorney General filed a lawsuit against the Trump Foundation, Donald Trump, and his children Ivanka, Eric, and Donald Jr., who were board members of the foundation. The lawsuit sought to dissolve the foundation and obtain restitution for the misused funds.
3. Settlement and Dissolution: In December 2018, the Trump Foundation agreed to dissolve under court supervision. The remaining funds were to be distributed to other legitimate charities, approved by the New York Attorney General’s office.
4. Further Consequences:
• In November 2019, Donald Trump was ordered by a New York state judge to pay $2 million in damages for misusing the foundation’s funds. The payment was to be distributed among several charities.
• The Trump children, who were board members, were required to undergo mandatory training on the duties of officers and directors of charities.
 
the phantom menace

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strider said:
BTW, i dont think its a forgone conclusion that Biden runs in the election. Probably still time to parachute in an alternative ....
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Agree with this.
strider said:
now seem to be many within openly saying concerns about his ability, plus allowing truth to come out like the laptop lies
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Don't agree with this reasoning though.
strider said:
i never thought the puppet would see out his first term, but maybe they just decided his cackling dimwitted sidekick was gonna do more damage than he would.
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And don't agree with this.
 
Gronk

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Mr Teflon stikes again. Trial on hold because they found out the DA did giggy giggy with the prosecutor once upon a time.

 
T-Boon

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Gronk said:
Lucky for you, there is a political ally right here on our shores.

Courtesy of AI political expert, Gloria

Trump vs Pauline Hanson’s One Nation

Shared Themes:

1. Populism: Both use populist rhetoric, claiming to represent the interests of "ordinary" people against a corrupt or out-of-touch elite.

2. Nationalism: They emphasize national pride and prioritize their nation's interests over international considerations.

3. Immigration: Each has advocated for strict immigration controls and has expressed concerns about the cultural and economic impacts of immigration. Their rhetoric and policies have been branded as racially insensitive or discriminatory, violent expansionism.

4. Anti-Establishment: They criticize the political elite and mainstream institutions, positioning themselves as outsiders fighting against a corrupt system.

Identity Politics

Pauline Hanson:

1. Australian Identity: Hanson often emphasizes a specific vision of Australian identity, which includes a preference for traditional Australian cultural norms and values.
2. Immigration and Multiculturalism: She frequently critiques multiculturalism and immigration policies, arguing that they threaten Australian culture and social cohesion. Her rhetoric often focuses on particular groups, such as Muslims, Asians, and Indigenous Australians, which has been viewed as divisive and exclusionary.
3. Victimhood Narrative: Hanson sometimes portrays herself and her supporters as victims of political correctness and an out-of-touch elite, framing her political movement as a defense of ordinary Australians against these forces.

Donald Trump:

1. American Identity: Trump often appeals to a vision of American identity that includes a focus on traditional values, patriotism, and a strong nationalistic sentiment.
2. Immigration: His rhetoric around immigration has been particularly pointed, targeting Mexicans, Muslims, and other groups. He has promoted policies like building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border and implementing travel bans on certain countries.
3. Victimhood Narrative: Trump frequently frames himself and his supporters as victims of a biased media, political elites, and a “deep state.” This narrative reinforces a sense of identity and solidarity among his base.
4. Cultural Issues: Trump has engaged in cultural battles on issues such as NFL protests, transgender rights in the military, and more, positioning himself as a defender of traditional American values against progressive changes.

Similarities:

• Both use identity politics to rally their bases by emphasizing a particular national or cultural identity.
• They often portray themselves and their supporters as under siege by external or internal threats (e.g., immigrants, political correctness, the elite).
• Their rhetoric can be polarizing, often framing issues in a way that creates clear in-groups and out-groups.
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Pauline is a woman though.
Nobody is voting for a woman.
 
T-Boon

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I think most who will vote Trump in will be doing it to watch DeNiro's head explode. That guy is stupid.
 
Gronk

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Unravel..

A bullshit artist who posts false rumours has got himself 5 minutes of fame.

He might also get himself a subpoena.

 
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