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JokerEel

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Gronk said:
Yeah but OK to be Secretary of Defence ? This was 2020, not 1993 as a silly teenager.

In 2020, Hegseth volunteered as one of the up-to-25,000 National Guard troops authorized by the Pentagon to be put on active duty to protect the inauguration of President Joe Biden on January 20, 2021, but was removed from that mission because he was one of twelve soldiers "linked to 'right-wing militia groups,' or found to have 'posted extremist views online.'
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Why not secretary of defense?

What was his extreme view or the right wing militia group he may have been linked to?

Oh just noticed you didn't post all the paragraph ffs
 
Gronk

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JokerEel said:
Why not secretary of defense?

What was his extreme view or the right wing militia group he may have been linked to?
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Secretary of Defence is supposed to be apolitical and experienced.

From SMH today

Trump’s selection of Hegseth, who lacks senior military or national security experience, was sure to draw questions about his qualifications to lead the department.

If confirmed by the Senate, Hegseth would inherit the top job in the midst of multiple global crises – Russia’s war in Ukraine and the ongoing attacks in the Middle East by Iranian proxies; the push for a ceasefire between Israel, Hamas and Hezbollah; and escalating worries about the growing alliance between Russia and North Korea.

Oh just noticed you didn't post all the paragraph ffs
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Yeah his tattoos don't have much to do with the price of fish.
 
JokerEel

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Gronk said:
Secretary of Defence is supposed to be apolitical and experienced.

From SMH today

Trump’s selection of Hegseth, who lacks senior military or national security experience, was sure to draw questions about his qualifications to lead the department.

If confirmed by the Senate, Hegseth would inherit the top job in the midst of multiple global crises – Russia’s war in Ukraine and the ongoing attacks in the Middle East by Iranian proxies; the push for a ceasefire between Israel, Hamas and Hezbollah; and escalating worries about the growing alliance between Russia and North Korea.



Yeah his tattoos don't have much to do with the price of fish.
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Do they have to be apolitical?

What experience we after here?

The fish tattoo was his reasoning so yes it does... But it's not like a leftie to hide the facts.
 
Soren Lorenson

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Yep, they’re both conservative Trump supporters. But hear his views from his own mouth rather than relying on the takes from equally biased left leaning media. I note that any criticism that I've read of this appointment seems to be coming from those outside the military. I wonder what serving members think.

 
Gronk

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JokerEel said:
Do they have to be apolitical?

What experience we after here?

The fish tattoo was his reasoning so yes it does... But it's not like a leftie to hide the facts.
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Ugh. This is even from SkyNews.

“He’s a Fox News presenter so, we got to remember the Pentagon is one of the largest bureaucracies in the world and one of the most powerful militaries in the world, he doesn’t have a lot of experience, it must be said, in managing large government organisations.”
Prof. Dean said Hegseth appeared to be nominated on the basis of his political views, his support for president-elect Trump and his criticisms against “what he brands ‘woke culture’” within the Department of Defence.
“Loyalty to the president seems to be one of the key motivating factors,” he said.

“He spoke very clearly in the book that he believes woke culture has taken over the US Department of Defence. He makes reference to joining the military now is, in his view, no different to just going to Harvard and doing a gender studies degree.”

Prof. Dean said Hegseth had a “warrior approach” when it came to military reform, but questioned his experience and ability to run a large organisation such as the DoD.

“What is his views on China? What is his views on capability development within the Pentagon? What is his views on the asymmetric capability development? What is his views on the future role of U.S. Navy or the US Army?” he said.

“Those sorts of big strategic questions are very unknown. And of course, being a junior infantry officer does not qualify you to work at the strategic level or bureaucratic level.”

 
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It isn't like he previously appointed people to jobs because they were on his side rather than being capable
not sure why anyone is surprised
 
Soren Lorenson

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Gronk said:
Ugh. This is even from SkyNews.

“He’s a Fox News presenter so, we got to remember the Pentagon is one of the largest bureaucracies in the world and one of the most powerful militaries in the world, he doesn’t have a lot of experience, it must be said, in managing large government organisations.”
Prof. Dean said Hegseth appeared to be nominated on the basis of his political views, his support for president-elect Trump and his criticisms against “what he brands ‘woke culture’” within the Department of Defence.
“Loyalty to the president seems to be one of the key motivating factors,” he said.

“He spoke very clearly in the book that he believes woke culture has taken over the US Department of Defence. He makes reference to joining the military now is, in his view, no different to just going to Harvard and doing a gender studies degree.”

Prof. Dean said Hegseth had a “warrior approach” when it came to military reform, but questioned his experience and ability to run a large organisation such as the DoD.

“What is his views on China? What is his views on capability development within the Pentagon? What is his views on the asymmetric capability development? What is his views on the future role of U.S. Navy or the US Army?” he said.

“Those sorts of big strategic questions are very unknown. And of course, being a junior infantry officer does not qualify you to work at the strategic level or bureaucratic level.”

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Mostly fair, but he ended up a Major. Thats hardly a junior infantry officer, so again, someone is being dishonest to make a point.
 
JokerEel

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Gronk said:
Ugh. This is even from SkyNews.

“He’s a Fox News presenter so, we got to remember the Pentagon is one of the largest bureaucracies in the world and one of the most powerful militaries in the world, he doesn’t have a lot of experience, it must be said, in managing large government organisations.”
Prof. Dean said Hegseth appeared to be nominated on the basis of his political views, his support for president-elect Trump and his criticisms against “what he brands ‘woke culture’” within the Department of Defence.
“Loyalty to the president seems to be one of the key motivating factors,” he said.

“He spoke very clearly in the book that he believes woke culture has taken over the US Department of Defence. He makes reference to joining the military now is, in his view, no different to just going to Harvard and doing a gender studies degree.”

Prof. Dean said Hegseth had a “warrior approach” when it came to military reform, but questioned his experience and ability to run a large organisation such as the DoD.

“What is his views on China? What is his views on capability development within the Pentagon? What is his views on the asymmetric capability development? What is his views on the future role of U.S. Navy or the US Army?” he said.

“Those sorts of big strategic questions are very unknown. And of course, being a junior infantry officer does not qualify you to work at the strategic level or bureaucratic level.”

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You didn't answer my question do you have to be apolitical?

What experience does he need?

His wiki says Major( not the title you highlighted in red) and he has been to JFK uni cmon! What more do you want!
 
T.S Quint

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Bandwagon said:
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside

www.archives.gov

14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution: Civil Rights (1868)

EnlargeDownload Link Citation: The House Joint Resolution Proposing the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, June 16, 1866; Enrolled Acts and Resolutions of Congress, 1789-1999; General Records of the United States Government; Record Group 11; National Archives. View All Pages in the National...
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I'm pretty sure that the POTUS swears an oath to protect the US constitution, not ignore it.
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The hoops he would have to jump through to get that amendment off the constitution are pretty humungous.
Needs at least a 3/4 majority in both the house and senate I believe, then more red tape to get through after that.

It's almost impossible.
 
Gronk

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JokerEel said:
Gee the left now believe what chat gpt says 😂
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It's a National Guard officer ranking, not the nuclear codes.

As for experience, I will let the world roll their eyes at the appointment and you can watch on.

www.afr.com

World braces for Trump’s ‘clown show’ defence chief

The Iraq and Afghanistan veteran and Fox News host gained notoriety by blaming “wokeness” for US military failures. Now he is set to be in charge.
www.afr.com www.afr.com
 
Bandwagon

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T.S Quint said:
The hoops he would have to jump through to get that amendment off the constitution are pretty humungous.
Needs at least a 3/4 majority in both the house and senate I believe, then more red tape to get through after that.

It's almost impossible.
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You'd need a fair bit of bipartisan support. One thing Trump in particular is very unlikely to see.
 
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