OT - In these weird times

[sup42]

I must be a sheep. I don't have a big issue with the use of sweeping powers in this context.

Overreaching? well I wonder how the police are supposed to police breaches if they have to apply for warrants.

I guess I see it as a necessary evil.

I know our country has been accused of being a police state, and our history with things like the springbok tours wasn't flash, but as long as these powers are time limited and have no standing in the presence of a Vaccine I say get to it.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/...aZpdn2cOJeimqxvbiS8ltpQ2H-tdVkpl3YEAsgGDvHmeU

Humans Rights Commission 'deeply concerned'

Happily, the planned 2 year period has been reduced to 90 days

im happy enough with it for a short term like 90 days. 2 years was definitely too long.

 

[Meth]

I think it all depends on how, when and in what circumstances it's enforced.

If it's a law that they can file away to address blatant and grievous breaches, fine, I suppose. Anything more than that, no thanks.

 

[sup42]

I would be very concerned if I thought there was systemic corruption in our cops.

It is a big deal though, people are right to question it.

It could be easily abused that's true.

So far the police seem to have been very moderate, they emphasize education instead of prosecution....that gives me some comfort.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I have to admit, I care very little about all this privacy stuff - Five Eyes, this bill etc. I wake up in the morning, have my toast, kiss my family on the head, go to work, come home. Then occasionally play golf or have a beer. I've got nothing to hide.

 

[Meth]

I have to admit, I care very little about all this privacy stuff - Five Eyes, this bill etc. I wake up in the morning, have my toast, kiss my family on the head, go to work, come home. Then occasionally play golf or have a beer. I've got nothing to hide.

yeah, all of the privacy stuff is overdone. But nobody wants to live in a police state.

And we are a long way from that, for sure. But giving the police additional powers/removing restraints should involve careful consideration. It shouldn’t be done like this, under any circumstances IMO

anyway, I read the legislation. I would like to know what the prerequisites are that need to be satisfied for a Section 11 order to be made. That’s not clear.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Pretty disappointing to hear on the news this morning that Maori are playing the race card on tangi restrictions

 

[Meth]

Pretty disappointing to hear on the news this morning that Maori are playing the race card on tangi restrictions

Those restrictions are pretty ridiculous though. You can trust a whole bunch of people out on the piss to follow guidelines, but not people mourning the loss of a loved one?

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Those restrictions are pretty ridiculous though. You can trust a whole bunch of people out on the piss to follow guidelines, but not people mourning the loss of a loved one?

Agree the funeral restrictions are ridiculous, if one of my loved ones was dying through all this I’d have ended up in jail probably, but the white man down the road doesn’t have any extra funeral rights so the race card isn’t required

 

[Meth]

Agree the funeral restrictions are ridiculous, if one of my loved ones was dying through all this I’d have ended up in jail probably, but the white man down the road doesn’t have any extra funeral rights so the race card isn’t required

Meh. The legislation specifically addressed them so they responded specifically.

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Meh. The legislation specifically addressed them so they responded specifically.

Could have responded minus the “ingrained racism” quote though, doesn’t do anyone any favours

Moving on, its already showing things are a bit of a mockery when old mate at the viaduct is having a party tonight for 100 people

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Meh. The legislation specifically addressed them so they responded specifically.

It addressed them in the sense it mentioned tangi, but if funerals were mentioned in the same sentence they can’t really complain of being singled out. The restrictions are harsh, but they apply to everybody.

 

[sup42]

The good news is three days no new cases.

Every day of zero feels like winning from here.

 

[Big Marn]

Could have responded minus the “ingrained racism” quote though, doesn’t do anyone any favours

Moving on, its already showing things are a bit of a mockery when old mate at the viaduct is having a party tonight for 100 people

10 tables of 10 apparently. partitioned? i dont know

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Could have responded minus the “ingrained racism” quote though, doesn’t do anyone any favours

Moving on, its already showing things are a bit of a mockery when old mate at the viaduct is having a party tonight for 100 people

Leo Molloy is a f**king prick. I hope his party gets shut down.

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Leo Molloy is a f**king prick. I hope his party gets shut down.

i reckon he wants that so he can play the martyr

 

[Meth]

Look, I'm not big into conspiracy theories, but this guy raises some good questions that should be asked of people like Fauci and Gates

 

[JJ]

Lots of weird shit atm, I’m over it all

Watching 89 semi between Souths and Tigers, those were the days...

That 89 Souths team was special, what a pack...

 

[Beavers Headgear]

Lots of weird shit atm, I’m over it all

Watching 89 semi between Souths and Tigers, those were the days...

That 89 Souths team was special, what a pack...

Got that one recording for a later watch, too buggered to watch it now, just watched Brisbane v Canberra 95 though, shit there were some names on the park

 

[JJ]

Game was just a bit more real or raw back then