OT: Parra Stadium sharing

[Suitman]

In the end, if it costs too much, just make it look like a f**king cardboard box on the outside. I couldn't care less.

Spend the money on the inside first then see what you can do on the outside with what's left.

Absolutely. And that is my point.

Suity

 

[Suitman]

Allianz is 30 years old. It was never designed to keep merkins dry.

And I don't want to see that same pathetic design fault happen again.
Really, are you serious????

 

[Avenger]

Plenty have already said it but I reckon the new stadium should at least be 35k. Not like we will ever fill it. Isn't our highest attendance 27 odd thousand despite the Stadium with the old hill being 30k. The Wanderers will need it. They will fill it.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Allianz is 30 years old. It was never designed to keep merkins dry.

This stadium will be done right and will provide a wonderful fan day experience. The site will be serviced by light rail for easy access to reliable rail.

I seem to recall being told that the SFS would keep us dry, and that the obvious flaws in the design were, in fact, optical illusions only present when looking at the architects model. What they didn't bank on was gravity.

 

[emjaycee]

I seem to recall being told that the SFS would keep us dry, and that the obvious flaws in the design were, in fact, optical illusions only present when looking at the architects model. What they didn't bank on was gravity.

Or rain.

 

[Twizzle]

In the end, if it costs too much, just make it look like a f**king cardboard box on the outside. I couldn't care less.

Spend the money on the inside first then see what you can do on the outside with what's left.

good point

the outside means nothing really, its just a vessel for architects to get nominated for design awards to add to their resume and they couldn't give a f**k what it costs because they aint paying for it

 

[Gronk]

Spoken like an engineer or accountant.

You merkins are a boring bunch and thank f**k you're not in charge of urban design in this country.

Great cities have significant landmarks and Parramatta deserves (and will get) a state of the art stadium.

Thankfully we had politicians brave enough to run with Jorn Ultzon's opera house design, otherwise we'd have ended up with a boring concrete building which no doubt would have already been knocked down.

Good urban design provides a city with a vibe and leaves a legacy for generations to come.

Look how the Germans have transformed Berlin from a boring run of the mill city into a place where people want to be.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...qFQoTCOrq0ezn5ccCFeHGpgod1fAIsQ&dpr=1#imgrc=_

 

[Twizzle]

its a sports stadium, its not urban design

its one f**king building

 

[Gronk]

its a sports stadium, its not urban design

its one f**king building

Boring !

 

[whall15]

I agree with not caring what it looks like on the outside.

Should instead build it to 40k to World Cup specs so it doesn't need to be upgraded if FIFA ever gets clean and we get to host a World Cup.

 

[The EELiminator]

I seem to recall being told that the SFS would keep us dry, and that the obvious flaws in the design were, in fact, optical illusions only present when looking at the architects model. What they didn't bank on was gravity.

turns out water flows downhill who knew :sarcasm:

 

[forward pass]

lol.

Are people aware that there is height limitations, and boundary limitations, that are legislated through Parliament?
That means, we can't, as it stands, build a stadium outside the current boundaries of the footprint. Nor, can we exceed current heights. This is all legislated.

Suity

Can't we go lower to avoid that problem? I know that increases the footprint but it has been done successfully at many stadiums across the USA.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Wasn't AAMI originally planned as a 20k stadium, then they ended up building a 30k capacity?
There's hope yet that we might sneak up to 35k capacity isn't there?

Or at least make it so that it is easily upgraded.

 

[Suitman]

Can't we go lower to avoid that problem? I know that increases the footprint but it has been done successfully at many stadiums across the USA.

Not really mate.
They already went lower when they built the current stadium and they need to maintain a particular height above the water table.

Suity

 

[Suitman]

Wasn't AAMI originally planned as a 20k stadium, then they ended up building a 30k capacity?
There's hope yet that we might sneak up to 35k capacity isn't there?

Or at least make it so that it is easily upgraded.

Yes AAMI was indeed originally going to be a 20 000 seat stadium.
It wasn't until Melbourne Victory threatened to never play there that they agreed to a consensual 30 000 capacity.

Suity

 

[Suitman]

Something like this would be superb.......it might even keep Gronk happy.
From Antalya (Turkey).

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=662372&page=14

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

It wasn't until Melbourne Victory threatened to never play there that they agreed to a consensual 30 000 capacity.

Suity

That's the least expected use of 'consensual' I've ever seen

 

[Gronk]

Something like this would be superb.......it might even keep Gronk happy.
From Antalya (Turkey).

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=662372&page=14

Those pics highlight a problem with stadiums that are designed to keep merkins dry. You then have a problem in maintaining a good grass cover.

I saw recently in the US (?) that they overcame this by having the entire pitch on wheels and roll it out outside the stadium when they are not using it.

 

[Suitman]

Nope. Didn't even keep Gronk happy.

Suity

 

[ash411]

That's fine, but what would you rather money be spent on?
A fancy roof aka Allianz where most people still get wet, or a short beer and food queue at half time?


Suity

Exactly! Suity is right, we should build a sh**ty, boring stadium and make sure the pi**heads and get their beer, after all, that's what it's all about.

This stadium will serve as a landmark for the city, It can end up reflecting the city (and broader area's) identity. Think about it, this thing is likely to be there for at least 20 years, maybe longer, It'll be the largest, most distinctive building in Parramatta, if you don't think the exterior design is important, or you think having better access to beer is more important than than that, you need your head read, as your priorities are out of what.

Personally I think they go all out, I think they can learn from either US American football stadiums, or Football stadiums in the UK/Europe.

They have a real opportunity to be really unique and innovative here, rather than producing some cookie cutter beige stadium we've seeb built a million times already. (I'm looking at you ANZ).