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Quigs · Jul 13, 2012

1. Unemployment 5.1% - (Canada 7.5, EUROZONE Avg 9.3, UK 8.7, USA 8.3, Japan 4.1, NZ 6.6, China 4.1, India 9.4, Brazil 4.7. South Africa 25%, Singapore 1.9, South Korea 3.7)

2. CPI - 2.15% well below expectation, a 12 year low. 2.15%.

3. GDP Growth 4.3% - The Australian economy is now around 7 per cent larger than it was prior to GFC Mark 1. By way of comparison, most developed countries have gone backward.

4. RBA Official Interest Cash Rate - 3.5% - compared to 6.75% when Howard was voted out. Lowest RBA Interest Rate was Apr 2009 at 3% post 2008 GFC.

5. Current Govt Net Debt - 8.9%

6. Total Public Debt - 27% GDP (Canada 81%, EURO 97%, France 99%, Germany 84%, Japan 205%, UK 91%, USA 95%)

7. Trade Surplus $22.4 billion last financial year – easily the biggest surplus in raw terms for the past 40 years of records compiled by the ABS

8. Sovereign Rating - Australia one of just 15 countries to hold the top AAA Rating from all Agencies

9. Currency - AUD/USD 1.04, AUD/UK 0.68 AUD/Euro 0.82 - The floating of AUD is the single most important economic reform introduced by Labor. It acts as a shock absorber to external economic conditions

10. Australia is in Asia, the growth engine averaging 6% and part of the Asian Century. It's middle and aspiration class is expected to hit 800 millions by 2020. Double of USA+Europe.

11. NBN - One of the most advanced high speed Internet enabled network in the world. Australia's first national wide, open access FTTP broadband network with minimum 93% coverage, capable of achieving 1 gigabit per second broadband speeds.

12. Australia is the richest country in the world according to Credit Suisse Research Institute's most recent Global Wealth Report, the median wealth of Australians now is well over $200,000, ahead of Switzerland, 4 times USA.

13. Under Coalition spending grew by average of 3.7% per annum, under the current Labor spending growth is averaging 1.5%

14. More people at work today than any time in our Nation's history. In Jan 2012, 46,300 new jobs created for the month of which 12,300 full-time jobs and the Unemployment rate is now 5.1% from previous 5.2%

15. Australia net debt is expected to peak only at 8.9% in 2016 (MYEFO) - READ MORE

16. THE Gillard government's reforms to financial advice will boost the retirement savings of Australian workers by $130 billion over 15 years

17. Retail turnover up 0.3% in January. (0.1% fall in December.) from ABS

18. Our economy is up by 7.4 per cent on pre-GFC levels. Canada +3.5% USA & Germany +1%, UK -2.75%, Japan -3% Italy - 4.5% READ MORE

19. Australia's GDP in 2011 was $1.444 trillion. Will be above $1.5 trillion next year

20. Since 2007 the ratio of net debt to GDP of the leading western economies has grown from 52% to 82%”(a swing of 30%). In Australia, minus 3.8% to 8.9%(a swing of 13%)

21. The 10 year government bond yield is now around 4.0% having recent hit an all time low of 3.65% - it was above 6% in late 2007 when the Coalition was in office

22. The size of government – taken as government spending – will fall from 26.0% of GDP in 2009-10 during GFC to 23.6% of GDP in 2012-13. The Howard government’s average government spending to GDP ratio was 24.2% of GDP.

23. The Tax to GDP ratio will rise from a 30 year low of 20.0% of GDP in 2010-11 and will reach 22.3% of GDP in 2012-13.The Tax to GDP ratio in the last Howard year was 23.7% and the average Tax to GDP ratio under Howard was 23.4% of GDP.

24. Australia has the strongest economy in the developed world and it is expected to outperform all comers for at least the next two years, according to the International Monetary Fund.The Treasurer, Wayne Swan, says this update is consistent with the reasons he has given for bringing the budget back to surplus. Read more:

25. Over 44,000 jobs created in March with unemployment rate steady at 5.2% for 8 months running Encouragingly, seasonally adjusted full-time employment rose by 15,800 in March 2012, while part-time employment increased by 28,200.The labour force participation rate also increased in March, by 0.2 percentage points to 65.4 per cent

26. New Car Sales - Australia new vehicle sales hit 22 months high in March - Sales of new motor vehicles in Australia climbed to their highest level in 22 months in March, data showed on Tuesday, a sign consumers still had the confidence to splash out on big ticket items. Government figures showed new vehicle sales rose 4 per cent in March to 89,694 - READ MORE

27. Currency Deal - RBA signs $30b currency swap pact with China. The Reserve Bank said it had signed a bilateral local currency swap agreement with the People's Bank of China (PBC).The central bank said the agreement allows for the exchange of local currencies between the two central banks of as much as $30 billion or 200 billion yuan. It is for an initial period of three years and can be activated by either party. READ MORE

28. Funding costs of banks are easing, says RBA - THE Reserve Bank has indicated wholesale funding costs of the banks were beginning to ease, despite the banking sector's claims that elevated costs were continuing to crimp their profit margins. READ MORE

29. Government Gross debt is predominantly the amount of Commonwealth Government Securities (CGS) on issue. To maintain a liquid and efficient bond market that supports the three‑ and ten‑year futures market and the requirements of the new global bank liquidity standards, the panel agreed that the CGS market should be maintained around its current size — that is, around 12 to 14 per cent of GDP over time." READ MORE - Currently, around $215 billion at the moment and is likely to rise to $240 billion in the next year or so. Whomever forms government, it is likely to rise to around $350 billion in the early 2020s. (The Kouk - READ MORE )

30. RBA - cuts cash rate by a whooping 0.5% to 3.75%. Record low RBA cash rate is 3% in April 2009 post GFC.This Cash Rate is lower than it was at any time under the Liberal government. Four of the lowest interest rate 3%, 3.25% 3.5% and 3.75% all happened under Labor. The lowest ever achieved by the Howard Govt was 4.25% in Dec 2001

35. Comparison of Public debt as % of GDP & Public Debt Per Person:

AUS. 22.6%. $12,469

NZ 31.8%. $10,677

UK. 84.6%. $32,207

US. 76.3%. $37,952

CAN. 81.6%. $39,883

FRA. 92.5%. $35,648

GER. 77.8%. $28,728

JAP. 204.9%. $87,600 READ MORE

36. Fiscal Policy - The Government at the moment is part way through delivering the most dramatic bottom-line turnaround in fiscal policy since at least the 1960s. It is cutting real government spending for the first time since the 1980s. READ MORE

37. More From TheKouk:

* Under the 12 years of the Howard govt, Govt spending rose by 101%; tax receipts rose 141%.

* Budget day facts: Australia's GDP will be approx $1.56 trillion in 2012-13... that's $1,560,000,000,000

* Budget Day Facts: Govt will collect about $350 billion in tax in 2012-13 or 22.1% of GDP. This is less tax than all Costello Budgets

* The RBA paid $18.3 billion in dividends to Govt in the Costello Budgets. Since 2010-11, zero.

* The average RBA dividend to the Govt during Costello Budgets was 0.2% of GDP. I bet Swannie would love such a windfall now!

* Number of Australians employed rose above 11.5 million for the first time ever..Just saying ( TheKouk on Twitter )

Quigs · Jul 13, 2012

I am trying to be as fast as Abbott cuts and runs from a press conference....

So allow me some time.

I hope you can understand that most of the points have links.... so check those out first.

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Social

1. Australian families depending on one breadwinner pay among the lowest amounts of tax in the world and have become better off under the Gillard Government – Natsem

2. The Herald/Lateral Economics Index of Australia’s Wellbeing rose 2.2 per cent in the quarter, outstripping GDP growth of 1 per cent. READ MORE

3. The number of people filling for bankruptcy in Australia has fallen by 16%.

4. Recently released IMF estimates show that Australians are the fifth richest people in the world, behind only those living in Luxembourg, Qatar, Norway and Switzerland READ MORE

5. AUSTRALIA is second best – almost but not quite the greatest place in which to live, according to the latest United Nations human development index. Norway pips us by a flared nostril. Australia scores 0.93 on a scale of 0 to 1, where 1 is the highest score possible. At 0.94, Norway’s margin over Australia is close to invisible

6. Ave weekly earning +4.7% in yr to Aug. 10 years of real wage gains.

7. Aust & Holland have the best pension systems in the world followed by Sweden, Swiss, Canada, UK READ MORE

8. Australia top destination for expats globally: HSBC – AUSTRALIA’S image of healthy outdoor living and reputation for a work-life balance has elevated it to the top destination for expatriates globally, according to a worldwide survey by HSBC.

9. THE Gillard government’s reforms to financial advice will boost the retirement savings of Australian workers by $130 billion over 15 years

10. From Mega: Costs of the Paretal Leave Scheme: The total cost of the government scheme is $1.4 billion in 2012-13, covering 126,000 families. The Coalition’s 2010 election policy document put the cost of the Abbott scheme at $4.3bn in 2012-13. A professional woman on more than $150,000 a year would receive $75,000 from Abbott and nothing from Labor. READ MORE

11. The Gillard Govt has committed more funding to urban public transport since 2007 than all Govts combined since Federation

12. #MRRT will ensure Australians get more Super from 9% to 12%. FIND OUT MORE

13. NAB chief economist just told insolvency conference media is over blowing carbon tax which only cuts 0.25% off GDP growth and clips 25k jobs

14. We are in Asia. Time to reform to meet Asia challenge, says former World Bank chief James Wolfensohn. March 22, 2012. FORMER World Bank president James Wolfensohn has warned that the world is not prepared for the global power shift from West to East. READ MORE

15. PBS - THE biggest price cuts in the history of the nation's Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme will hit chemist shelves today, delivering big savings to families.Prices will be slashed on 1000 brands of 60 popular prescription medicines by up to $14 per script.Some of the most widely used medications, including scores of antibiotics, painkillers, antidepressants, cholesterol controllers, laxatives, blood pressure and heart drugs, will fall in price, thanks to a Gillard government move which brings drug costs into line with the market price.A 20-pack of heavy-duty painkiller Panadeine Forte will fall by up to $4.32, a course of antibiotic Augmentin Duo Forte will fall by up to $3.33, a month's supply of anti-depressant Prozac will fall by a maximum of $3.35, and widely used cholesterol tablets Lopid will fall by up to $7.32 for a 60-pack. READ MORE

16. Skill Training - PM Gillard seals skills deal with States. State and territory leaders have agreed to support the Federal Government's changes to funding for training skilled workers.The $1.75 billion packag will create 375,000 additional training places will be available over the next five years. READ MORE

17. More Income - On the average the household is taking home over $13,000 a year more – yes, in after tax dollars – than they were just 4 years ago. This clearly is much more than is being eaten away from higher prices for electricity, tobacco or lamb. READ MORE

18. The Carbon Tax will help the punters:
- One million workers will no longer have to pay tax or lodge a tax return under a tripling of the tax-free threshold from $6000 to $18,000.to apply from July 1.
- Families already receiving payments under Family Tax Benefit A will be paid cash bonuses to compensate for the impact of the carbon tax from May 16 to May 29, with a small increase in fortnightly payments to follow.
- Single-income families receiving payments under Family Tax Benefit B will get up to $69 extra, plus up to $300 in additional supplement.
- Pensioners can expect to see their $250 bonuses, known as the Clean Energy Advance, to arrive from May 28 to June 8.
- Self-funded retirees who have a Commonwealth Seniors Health Card will get a $250 cash bonus from next month - or $190 for each member of a couple.
- Students receiving Austudy payments will receive payments over the period June 11 to June 22.
- $300-a-year tax cut for six million Australians earning $80,000 a year or less. READ MORE

19. More Jobs, Jobs, Jobs - The latest figures on job vacancies and business confidence suggest sentiment has rebounded in Australian business circles.Official job vacancy figures from the Bureau of Statistics show that employers want to hire more new workers, with job vacancies rising by 0.7 per cent in February, a turnaround on the previous series of declines.The bi-annual survey of the views of more than 400 industry leaders found that confidence levels among mid-sized Australian businesses were climbing, and they were looking to expand by boosting spending and staffing in the next six months after sitting on their cash for the last six months. READ MORE

20. Happiness - Australia ninth happiest country in world - AUSTRALIA is ranked among the world's top 10 happiest countries, albeit behind New Zealand.(Bugger them Sheeppen Shaggers). The World Happiness Report, released at a United Nations conference, places Australia in ninth position, with Denmark topping the list, followed by Finland, Norway, The Netherlands, Canada, Switzerland, Sweden, New Zealand, Australia and Ireland. READ MORE

21. NBN - Federal Communications Minister Stephen Conroy, who is overseeing the government's $36 billion national broadband network (NBN) project, has received an award from a New York-based think tank. READ MORE

22. Impacts of the Carbon Price:

- VICTORIANS will pay 8.5 per cent more for their electricity as a result of the carbon price - less than estimated by the federal government - according to research billed as the most thorough investigation of Australia's climate change laws - READ MORE

- The Independent Pricing and Regulatory Tribunal (IPART) has today released its draft determination on the proposed average prices that regulated electricity retailers in NSW can charge residential and small business customers from 1 July 2012.The draft decision allows for an average price increase of 16% across NSW. IPART chairman Dr Peter Boxall: NSW electricty price increase pw due to Carbon Price on electricity generators is $1.75 (Integral) $3.25 (EA) $3.66 (CE) - READ MORE

- Climate Change Minister Greg Combet says the carbon tax will account for only $6 in every $100 of the average household electricity bill in 2012-13, based on government analysis of the latest report from the Australian Energy Market Commission, which advised the Council of Australian Governments about future price rises. That report said electricity prices would increase by another 37 per cent in the next two years."The main reason for rising electricity prices is the over $40 billion in investment under way by electricity network businesses in upgrading the network of poles and wires across the country," Combet tells Inquirer. READ MORE

23. Aged Care Reform - Australia's aged population will be able to stay in their homes for longer under a $3.7 billion overhaul to the aged care system announced 20/4/12 by the Gillard government. The costs are capped at $5000 per year for pensioners and $10,000 – worked out on a sliding scale – for those with an income of more than $43,000 with a $60,000 lifetime cap limit. The government will increase the number of tailored home care packages by 40,000 to 100,000 over the next three years. The cap of $60,000 over a lifetime also for those in residential care and nursing homes. READ MORE

24. Age of Entitlement- Joe Hockey's sweat dripping #Lateline interview 18/4/12: We have bred entitlement - READ & WATCH MORE - Yes, for the upper middle class such as the Baby Bonus, Nanny Subsidy, DeLuxe PPL and Health Fund rebate for $200K+ . Else Australia's social spending is on the bottom half of OECD countries:

25. STOP THEM COMING - AUSTRALIA has emerged as the second most desired location, behind only the United States, for people to live and work, a report says. The Global Professionals on the Move 2012 report from recruiting firm Hydrogen Group says Australia's popularity was due to its lifestyle and standard of living, as well as the career opportunities presented by the mining boom. READ MORE

26. Libraries Vs Flagpoles - The Howard government built 3,000 flagpoles – we've built 3000 libraries READ MORE

27. National Disability Insurance Scheme (NDIS) - will start from July next year. - NDIS will operate in up to four locations across the country, helping about 10,000 people with significant and permanent disabilities."Over 400,000. Australians have significant and permanent disabilities that require ongoing care and support. Today more than 100,000 of you get no help through the current arrangements. "We will launch a full year sooner than the Productivity Commission suggested. That means from the middle of next year select launch sites around the country will begin serving around 10,000 people with disability growing to 20,000 people from the middle of 2014. READ MORE

28. No income tax, no return - from 1/7/2012, more than 1 million Australians no longer have to pay income tax after the tax free threshold increases to $18,200.00.

29. SUPER $1B Saving - 3.6 million low income earners on from $18,200 and $37,000 and on a 19 per cent marginal tax rate will get a 19 per cent tax concession - that is, zero tax - on super contributions if they take up the Low Income Superannuation Contribution.For people earning over $300,000 a year or more the contribution tax will increase from 15% to 30% READ MORE

30.You never had it so good - battered by rising prices? Nonsense, you've never had it so good, study reveals - COMPLAINTS about the rising cost of living appear to have little basis in fact, a new study reveals.It shows that incomes have more than kept up with prices, and in 2009-10 the average family was $224 a week better off than in 2003-04. READ MORE

31. School Kid Bonus - A million families will get a new cash payment of up to $820 for every child they have in school, being spared the hassle of claiming back education costs in their tax returns. Families will be paid $820 for every child at high school and $410 for each child in primary school. READ MORE

32. Roxon's a Champion - Washington honours Roxon, global champion in anti-tobacco battle - THE Attorney-General, Nicola Roxon, will be honoured in Washington, DC, tonight for championing what will ''go down as the most important turning point'' in the global fight against tobacco in a generation. Ms Roxon, who introduced plain packaging legislation as health minister and is now defending it in her new portfolio, will receive the annual ''Global Champion'' award before 500 guests at a gala dinner hosted by one of the US's largest anti-tobacco groups, the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids. READ MORE

33. Ross Gittin's Robin Hood budget not before time - Be in no doubt: this budget is the most highly redistributive in years. Whether out of desire to awaken class loyalties, to soften the blow of the carbon tax, or to buy votes, this budget gives quite a bit of money to low- and middle-income families. The discretionary increase in the means-tested family benefit, to take effect from July next year, is well targeted to families in greater need.The schoolchildren's bonus, the first payment of which will be made within a few weeks, goes only to parents eligible for the family benefit. It's a big improvement on the education tax refund, which mainly benefited those parents able to spend big on eligible equipment and savvy enough to keep receipts and make the claim.The new income-support supplement, to take effect next March, will give people on the dole a princely 57¢ a week extra, reducing by a sliver the extent to which we require them to subsist below the poverty line. It is, nevertheless, the first real increase to the dole for more than 20 years. The budget plans for increased spending on dental health for the needy and a start to the national disability insurance scheme in July next year. READ MORE

34. TOP TEN - Australia's higher education system world-class: 1 US 2 Sweden 3 Canada 4 Finland 5 Denmark 6 Switzerland 7 Norway 8 Australia 9 Netherlands 10 UK READ MORE

35. PENSIONERS - "The Whitlam and Rudd–Gillard governments did more for poor pensioners than any other govts in the last half-century"- READ MORE

spider · Jul 13, 2012

Quigs said:
. You know the trick how to crack the firewall

Your very first link amongst it all- Lol - you need a log in to read it.

Then you tried to mask it with all the other pollution.

Ahhh quigs, those lefty sites are mostly painful and only somewhat amusing, akin to masturbating with a cheese grator.

But it's again noted where you grab your info from :lol:

blacktip-reefy · Jul 13, 2012

Imagine that quigs, all that "good " data & yet very soon you will be looking at wall to wall coalition governments & in for a very long time.
I doubt you will ever see a labor government in power again your lifetime.
So get it all out of your system now.

Quigs · Jul 13, 2012

Shhhhhhh Spoidarh...

The trick is... grab (copy) the URL. the http://www.???? and then open google search.

When in Google search, you just paste the URL into the "search field"

No paying for murdochs behind the paywall stuff.

Try it. As my old tutor used to say, "You should learn something new everyday"

Quigs · Jul 13, 2012

The Abbott Fact Check & Other Matters

The Leader of the Opposition Mr Abbott gave his response to the Budget a short while ago and while there were few facts relating to matters of the economy, there were a few assertions and judgments that should be put through the fact-check machine.

The lack of any detail about how the aspirations would be paid for is another matter, but at a quick glance, here is what came out:

ABBOTT: People who work hard and put money aside so they won’t be a burden on others should be encouraged, not hit with higher taxes.
FACT: The tax to GDP ratio of the first 5 Labor Budgets averaged 21.1%. The lowest ever tax to GDP recorded under the Howard government was 22.2% and the average was 23.4%. The last time a Coalition Government delivered a tax to GDP ratio below 21.1% was in 1979-80. Cannot see where the “hit with higher taxes” statement fits these facts in the current Budget context.

ABBOTT: And people earning $83,000 a year and families on $150,000 a year are not rich, especially if they’re paying mortgages in our big cities.
FACT: Average annual earnings are around $53,500 in NSW and $51,500 in Victoria. Maybe they are “not rich”, but someone on $83,000 is earning around 60% above the average wage whether they have a mortgage or not.

ABBOTT: Madam Deputy Speaker, from an economic perspective, the worst aspect of this year’s budget is that there is no plan for economic growth; nothing whatsoever to promote investment or employment.
FACT: After registering a 19th straight year of economic growth in 2010-11, the Budget shows Australia growing at 3% in 2011-12, 3.25% in 2012-13 and 3% in 2013-14. Having risen a Chinese-type 18% in 2011-12, business investment is forecast to rise a further 12.5% in 2012-13. Employment is forecast to rise by 1.25% in 2012-13, which will see the creation of around 175,000 new jobs from now until June 2013.

ABBOTT: With a growing economy, it’s possible to have lower taxes, better services and a stronger budget bottom line as Australians discovered during the Howard era that now seems like a lost golden age of prosperity.
FACT: Despite the unbroken economic growth during the Howard Government era, which was a worthy achievement, the tax to GDP hit a record high of 24.2% of GDP, some 3.2% of GDP higher than in 2011-12 (that’s about $40 billion of extra tax in a single year!)

ABBOTT: I applaud the Treasurer’s eagerness to deliver a surplus – but if a forecast $1.5 billion surplus is enough to encourage the Reserve Bank to reduce interest rates, what has been the impact on interest rates of his $174 billion in delivered deficits over the past four years?
FACT: The official cash rate set by the RBA averaged 5.42% during the Howard government. Since Labor were elected in November 2007, it has averaged 4.73% and is currently at 3.75%. The futures market, having seen the Budget, is pricing in a cash rate below 3% by early 2013.

ABBOTT: The forecast surplus relies on the continuation of record terms of trade even though growth in China is moderating and Europe is still in deep trouble.
FACT: The Budget forecasts are for the terms of trade to fall by 5.75% in 2012-13 and to fall a further 3.25% in 2013-14. Based on Treasury’s sensitivity analysis, if the terms of trade were to continue at a record high as Abbott asserts, the surplus would be over $5 billion in 2012-13 and over $10 billion in 2013-14.

ABBOTT: I know what it’s like to deliver sustained surpluses because I was part of a government that did; indeed, sixteen members of my frontbench were ministers in the government that delivered the four biggest surpluses in Australian history.
FACT: As a share of GDP, they are not “the four biggest surpluses in Australian history”. The two biggest surpluses as a share of GDP were actually delivered by the Gorton and McMahon governments, followed by the 3rd largest surplus from the Howard Government, the fourth largest at 1.9% of GDP was delivered by the Whitlam government.
The “four biggest surpluses in Australia’s history” in dollar terms, which fit Mr Abbott’s claim, were in fact driven by the highest tax to GDP ratio in Australia’s history plus there was an extra $5.2 billion in dividends in those four years from the RBA.

ABBOTT: If the budget really was coming into surplus, it stands to reason that the government would have no further need to borrow. If the government really thinks that a surplus can be delivered, as opposed to being merely forecast, why is it proposing to add a further $50 billion to the Commonwealth’s debt ceiling?
FACT: The debt ceiling is rising due to the requirement to main a deep and liquid bond market and to allow for intra-year cash flow lumpiness in government accounts.

See also: http://www.marketeconomics.com.au/1286-gross-debt-gross-ignorance-2

Quigs · Jul 13, 2012

Ohhh well enough of the links I guess.

we just can't let facts get in the way of a good beat up hey guys.

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spider · Jul 13, 2012

Tsk Tsk quigs

Not many posts back and you took a pot shot at people using old dated links

Haha - caught & bowled.

Quigs · Jul 13, 2012

Uhmmmmmmmmm yeah, if you say so Spoide. If you say so.

Can't argue with facts.

It is just like watching a press conference with the Prime Minister answering all questions compared to Toneth The Slogan NoNo doing a door stop press conference.

Yeah just can't argue with facts.

spider · Jul 13, 2012

I'll enforce the follow-on quigs

And yes. In that respect you can't argue with the facts, even if they are from last year. ;-)

Surely · Jul 13, 2012

Fact mining exports up thanks Gina, Clive.

Fact imports down, consumers have no money to spend, thanks Wayne.

Quigs · Jul 13, 2012

spider said:
I'll enforce the follow-on quigs

And yes. In that respect you can't argue with the facts, even if they are from last year. ;-)

Yah know what I have been saying about facts and you know what I have been saying about Tory beat ups.... well facts is facts.

Fibs, lies and distortions I often call it.

Just to clarify some of those links you asked for and so the friendly viewers will get a bit of an idea where I am coming from and where you are calling it from.....

Post # 1480 by moi

Has links as requested.... date of links

June 12, 13, 9, 7, 7, 6 in the year of our Lord 2012

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Post # 1481 by moi covering budget 11-12

Has links as requested.... date of links

March 6, 18, 22, 29 in the year of our Lord 2012

April 12, 17 18,25 in the year of our Lord 2012

May 7 in the year of our Lord 2012

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Post # 1482 by moi

Has links as requested.... date of links

Dec (an oldie) 10, in the year of our Lord 2011

January 8, in the year of our Lord 2012

March 3, 22, 25, 27, 29, in the year of our Lord 2012
April 1, 1, 7, 19, 4, 18 in the year of our Lord 2012

July 13 in the year of our Lord 2012

I ceased confirming after that one...

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spider said:
I'll enforce the follow-on quigs

And yes. In that respect you can't argue with the facts, even if they are from last year. ;-)

I don't even think you have grounds for a follow on Spoide. I just think you might of been caught out in the Fibs department.

But don't take my word for it, check for youself.

As Joe Friday used to say, "The Facts Mamamm nothin' but the facts"

Quigs · Jul 13, 2012

Surely said:
Fact imports down, consumers have no money to spend, thanks Wayne.

Surels, it's all those farkennnnn pythons that are squeezing everyone. Quick run outside you can see them everywhere.

(psssts I'll think you might find if you want to check .... something went up 3.4% just the other day. I think it might of been consumer confidence or consumer spending .... not sure, but you can check it out if you want to)

"No Whyalla, No Whyalla"
"there on my Tee Veee"
"No Whyalla, No Whyalla"
"there on my Tee Veee"
"Shocking me right out of my brain"

blacktip-reefy · Jul 13, 2012

what will happen to the polar bears???

Surely · Jul 13, 2012

Pssst rising 3.4% on 3/5ths of f**k all is still 3/5ths of f**k all.

spider · Jul 14, 2012

Quigs said:
Yah know what I have been saying about facts and you know what I have been saying about Tory beat ups.... well facts is facts.

Fibs, lies and distortions I often call it.

Just to clarify some of those links you asked for and so the friendly viewers will get a bit of an idea where I am coming from and where you are calling it from.....

Post # 1480 by moi

Has links as requested.... date of links

June 12, 13, 9, 7, 7, 6 in the year of our Lord 2012

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Post # 1481 by moi covering budget 11-12

Has links as requested.... date of links

March 6, 18, 22, 29 in the year of our Lord 2012

April 12, 17 18,25 in the year of our Lord 2012

May 7 in the year of our Lord 2012

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Post # 1482 by moi

Has links as requested.... date of links

Dec (an oldie) 10, in the year of our Lord 2011

January 8, in the year of our Lord 2012

March 3, 22, 25, 27, 29, in the year of our Lord 2012
April 1, 1, 7, 19, 4, 18 in the year of our Lord 2012

July 13 in the year of our Lord 2012

I ceased confirming after that one...

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I don't even think you have grounds for a follow on Spoide. I just think you might of been caught out in the Fibs department.

But don't take my word for it, check for youself.

As Joe Friday used to say, "The Facts Mamamm nothin' but the facts"

None of them are the one I asked for the link on quigs

It's this one (post 1471) -

Quigs said:
Howard as PM
* The biggest-taxing government in Australia’s history
* The biggest trade deficit ever recorded
* The longest run of successive monthly trade deficits ever recorded
* Biggest foreign debt in Australia’s history (number 4 in the world in dollar terms)
* Highest levels of household and business debt ever recorded
* The lowest value of the AU$ (2001)
* 94% of the mining boom tax windfall frittered away in just 2.5 years
* Interest rates consistently above the OECD average
* Highest inflation in 16 years
* In mortgage rates, the highest interest component-to-average income level ever
recorded (worst interest rate-mortgage stress on record)
* Housing affordability the lowest ever
* Personal bankruptcies the highest in two decades
* Government investment in Tertiary Education in reverse

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showpost.php?p=8505926&postcount=1471

Pad up quigs - you are batting again.

Quigs · Jul 14, 2012

All there in #1480, #1481 and #1482 Spoide.

Me thinks you are clutching at straws. Now don't be so lazy and do some research.

There is an avalanche of facts ... sound the sirens

Quigs · Jul 14, 2012

I was chuckling to myself last night as the rain hit the roof. Justy lying there laughing and thinking.

The Qantas thread...........

Then i realised that Ive got the remainder of this season and all of next season before the democratically elected Prime Minister Gillard will need to call another election.

All of next season too.

One must train hard and become as resiliant as our Prime Minister. Not a cowardly cut and run like that other bloke.

I'm ready, at least another 16 months.

blacktip-reefy · Jul 14, 2012

Forgot one thing Quigs under the howard "facts"
Happiest Australians have ever been.
Even useless lefties had money in their kick.
If it wasnt for the middle class "guilt" of doing well, we still be the same.
But alas, now we are stuck with lying, cheating commies.
If only we had a pinochet or a LHO, to help speed things up.
Until then Quigs, enjoy your time. You will never see a lefty government in Power again.

Quigs · Jul 14, 2012

I love your passion Reefy.

The memories come flooding back of all the comments you made when the Gillard Guv'ment finally won office.

Arhhhh yeah might have to look up a few of them up again soon. There was some pearlers amongst that lot.

But i have 16 - 18 months to enjoy revisiting our little bit of LU history. It is documented for all to see. Those predictions of yours, they were a hoot.

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