Our Worst Ever Thread (AKA Grouch's dumping ground)

[Saint_JimmyG]

Sorry pigeon, but that match wasn’t affected by origin..

Regardless, the dragons & storm had a pretty close representation that year anyway, and it was only a handful of players..

Apologies alfalfa, but the above mentioned game (June 4, 2000) WAS sandwiched between Origin II (May 24, 2000), and Origin III (June 26, 2000).

To say the game wasn’t affected by representative fatigue is folly.

 

[muzby]

Apologies alfalfa, but the above mentioned game (June 4, 2000) WAS sandwiched between Origin II (May 24, 2000), and Origin III (June 26, 2000).

To say the game wasn’t affected by representative fatigue is folly.

Thanks for doing the research pigeon.

Nearly 2 weeks after one game and 3 weeks before the next says that both teams had all players available and not backing up.

So.. as I was saying, the game was not affected by origin.

 

[Crush]

Jobs for the boys. Cant criticise that.

Obviously jobs for the boys has been going on and on and on.

This is just ridiculous. His a club legend that obviously loves the club he played for and wants to be involved with in some capacity. And he's an absolute champion human that does nothing but good for the place.
Love it how people just throw these "jobs for the boys" comments around without having a clue what really goes on.

 

[Walpole]

Like or dislike this thread, I believe it was about worse club captain ? No question B Creagh is a club legend but there is a big difference from standing your ground & defending yourself if required when confronted by a thug, or running like a girl. [fact]
A Captain should be one who will defend their honour & the team he leads. I wonder what J.Graham would have done? ( I know the answer]
I know which one I would be a little nervous with, if they were chaperoning my daughter. LOL.

Can you imagine Hodges trying to start a fight with Graham?

Neither can I.

 

[ouryears]

Apologies alfalfa, but the above mentioned game (June 4, 2000) WAS sandwiched between Origin II (May 24, 2000), and Origin III (June 26, 2000).

To say the game wasn’t affected by representative fatigue is folly.

Full strength teams both sides, no fatigue jimmy, we whipped them.

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

Full strength teams both sides, no fatigue jimmy, we whipped them.

Untrue.

Refer to my reply to The Village Idiot.

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

Thanks for doing the research pigeon.

Nearly 2 weeks after one game and 3 weeks before the next says that both teams had all players available and not backing up.

So.. as I was saying, the game was not affected by origin.

If the game wasn’t affected by SOO, then why did the Storm have the following players unavailable: Kimmorley, Kearns, Howe, Hill and Bawden?

It’s a strange paradigm that they ALL played SOO in 2000, huh?

Comparatively, SGI didn’t have either Ainscough or Timmins at its disposal.

One only needs to compare the two Storm sides to accept the second time both sides played at Kogarah WAS deeply affected.

Melbourne (first game): Ross, Geyer, Moule, Martin, Bai, Lavea, Kimmorley, Kearns, Swain, Howe, Kearney. Rua, Hill. Reserves: Williams, Bawden, Roarty, Marquet.

Melbourne (second game): Geyer, Watts, Moule, Martin, Bai, Lavea, Carmichael, O’Farrell, Swain, Roarty, Marquet, Bawden, Rua. Reserves: Williams, Robinson, Fenton, Turner.

A bit of a difference there, wouldn’t you say?

Yes, research is a marvellous thing. It makes you appear less stupid when you apply it properly. Alfalfa, you should give it a go next time.

 

[muzby]

You forgot to mention Steven Kearney is missing from your 2nd team.

He had a cracking origin series that year..

Robbie Ross too..

 

[BennyV]

No matter what transpires from this point forward, this is the undisputed dumbest thread of 2018,

Criticising Creagh is beyond me pale.

I actually think it’s a tight field. There is a thread by an annoying fool discussing whether or not another annoying fool is the same annoying fool from another forum, as well as a thread where the OP states they’d prefer Mary over Bellamy..

This one is up there, but I don’t think it’s as cut-and-dried as you’ve made out!

 

[ouryears]

If the game wasn’t affected by SOO, then why did the Storm have the following players unavailable: Kimmorley, Kearns, Howe, Hill and Bawden?

It’s a strange paradigm that they ALL played SOO in 2000, huh?

Comparatively, SGI didn’t have either Ainscough or Timmins at its disposal.

One only needs to compare the two Storm sides to accept the second time both sides played at Kogarah WAS deeply affected.

Melbourne (first game): Ross, Geyer, Moule, Martin, Bai, Lavea, Kimmorley, Kearns, Swain, Howe, Kearney. Rua, Hill. Reserves: Williams, Bawden, Roarty, Marquet.

Melbourne (second game): Geyer, Watts, Moule, Martin, Bai, Lavea, Carmichael, O’Farrell, Swain, Roarty, Marquet, Bawden, Rua. Reserves: Williams, Robinson, Fenton, Turner.

A bit of a difference there, wouldn’t you say?

Yes, research is a marvellous thing. It makes you appear less stupid when you apply it properly. Alfalfa, you should give it a go next time.

Regardless, we were missing some, they were missing some.
54 points....boo hoo storm
Didn’t see anyone feeling sorry for us when we went into the recent semi final
vs Souths without a few of our very best
And we Didn’t get knocked over by 54 points.

2000 was a year to forget by both sides.
Crap GF too.

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

Regardless, we were missing some, they were missing some.
54 points....boo hoo storm
Didn’t see anyone feeling sorry for us when we went into the recent semi final
vs Souths without a few of our very best
And we Didn’t get knocked over by 54 points.

2000 was a year to forget by both sides.
Crap GF too.

Saints had THREE regular first graders out for the second match: Timmins, Mundine and Smith.

The Storm were missing SEVEN regular players.

Try to play a little fair.

Any GF without Saints is a waste of time.

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

You forgot to mention Steven Kearney is missing from your 2nd team.

He had a cracking origin series that year..

Robbie Ross too..

That’s because neither played in the return match for whatever non SOO related reason.

Apology accepted.

 

[ALSGI]

Creagh was a great player for us, especially at his peak and earned his respect as a player. Played a year too long imo.

Agree that sometimes it takes a big man and leader to walk away from a fight but not in SOO and he didn’t walk he ran away.

 

[grouch]

My vote is Ben Creagh.

In the circus surrounding the disappointing choices of coach and squad during the years 2012-2015, I think people often overlook what a terrible captain Ben Creagh was for the team. I can't see why he is absolved of responsibility, when he gave such weak leadership, particularly to the forward pack.

I would go as far as to say that the losing culture that Creagh bought to the team continues to have an influence. And it's only this past year that we finally fully threw off the weak mentality that he instilled in our forwards.

Delete this.

 

[muzby]

That’s because neither played in the return match.

Apology accepted.

Ahh.. classic pigeon..

 

[Saint_JimmyG]

Ahh.. classic pigeon..

Ditto, Alfalfa.

No acknowledgement when you’re wrong.

Actually on second thought, your moniker should be “Avis”.

 

[Slackboy72]

What a f**king numpty thread from an absolute numpty shit stain of a "supporter".

 

[SBD82]

What a f**king numpty thread from an absolute numpty shit stain of a "supporter".

I know right? The OP should have a good, long, hard look at himself.

 

[Datramp]

I know right? The OP should have a good, long, hard look at himself.

Everyone entitled to an opinion I guess. Your opinion from the original post is objectively wrong.

 

[SBD82]

Everyone entitled to an opinion I guess. Your opinion from the original post is objectively wrong.

How is it objectively wrong? Creagh was our captain at a time when we lacked leadership, and it would appear that according to forum consensus, he bears no responsibility for this lack of leadership.

I can accept that it's poor form bagging a club captain, and I regret that, but if that were a general standard we'd not have many threads left in this place.