Panthers sack Griffin 4 weeks from finals

[Vic Mackey]

Yeah his mate asked if he'd come back one day. This is backed up by Kent saying Panthers wanted Ivan for 2021 and Ivan wanted sooner rather than later.

Yes I’m sure it wasn’t a loaded question at all. Gould has contradicted himself numerous times already. The entire purpose of the podcast is Gould basically painting himself as a Mother Theresa style martyr.

 

[_Johnsy]

I do find it amusing that SOME Tigers fans are now voicing outrage at the possibility of a contract not being honoured. It’s a given that the circumstances are not exactly the same, but Jason Taylor, Mick Potter & Robbie Farah all want to say hi.

 

[some11]

Geez Gus is a real piece of shit.

Griffin might be a potato of a coach but he is great at nurturing rookies into first grade, he could've got the tap once the Panthers were bundled out of the finals.

 

[Mr Angry]

Not just Nathan.

Well time will tell.

Do not forget to tackle.

 

[Eion]

The difference is we now have an official source backing up the rumor. Whatever we think of Kent is irrelevant.

Just for the record, I think he’s a knob.

 

[Vic Mackey]

I do find it amusing that SOME Tigers fans are now voicing outrage at the possibility of a contract not being honoured. It’s a given that the circumstances are not exactly the same, but Jason Taylor, Mick Potter & Robbie Farah all want to say hi.

It’s not the contract that most people have the issue with. It’s what Ivan has said and done since he has been here and now going against everything he promised that has fans furious.

 

[OldPanther]

Yes I’m sure it wasn’t a loaded question at all. Gould has contradicted himself numerous times already. The entire purpose of the podcast is Gould basically painting himself as a Mother Theresa style martyr.

Geez Gus is a real piece of shit.

Griffin might be a potato of a coach but he is great at nurturing rookies into first grade, he could've got the tap once the Panthers were bundled out of the finals.

The way I see it people just want to turn Gus into the villain because it's easy to do. Tigers fans don't want to face the fact that maybe Ivan wants to do what he thinks is best for his son more than anything else.

 

[_Johnsy]

It’s not the contract that most people have the issue with. It’s what Ivan has said and done since he has been here and now going against everything he promised that has fans furious.

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Yeah I understand that mate, hence the some fans line.

 

[_Johnsy]

Am I the only one loving this play out from the sidelines?

 

[mxlegend99]

It’s not the contract that most people have the issue with. It’s what Ivan has said and done since he has been here and now going against everything he promised that has fans furious.

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Cleary said that and then they released him anyway.

I feel sorry for the Tigers fans and players. But the club itself have done the dirty on many players and coaches in recent years. So it's hard to feel sorry for them.

I honestly hope Ivan finishes his contract with Tigers and we link up with him in 2 years time in some capacity. Would rather we grabbed Bennett for 2 years since he is unwanted by Broncos and is a decent coach who probably wouldn't want longer than a 2 year contract.

 

[OldPanther]

Yes I’m sure it wasn’t a loaded question at all. Gould has contradicted himself numerous times already. The entire purpose of the podcast is Gould basically painting himself as a Mother Theresa style martyr.

Geez Gus is a real piece of shit.

Griffin might be a potato of a coach but he is great at nurturing rookies into first grade, he could've got the tap once the Panthers were bundled out of the finals.

The way I see it people just want to turn Gus into the villain because it's easy to do. Tigers fans don't want to face the fact that maybe Ivan wants to do what he thinks is best for his son more than anything else.

 

[Vic Mackey]

Tigers fans don't want to face the fact that maybe Ivan wants to do what he thinks is best for his son more than anything else.

Not hard to face at all. Even as a passionate Tigers fan I 100% think any coach would see the Panthers as a more attractive option then the Wests Tigers, whether your son is there or not.

 

[some11]

The way I see it people just want to turn Gus into the villain because it's easy to do.

I'm not turning Gus into a villain, I'm just calling him a piece of shit because he is one.

 

[Fufu Andronez]

I find it a bit weird the timing of Hannant and Soward and co laying into Griffin now that he is fired. If they genuinely thought he was such a rubbish coach and had rubbish gameplans and was holding Penrith back, why not say it while he was still in the job and still coaching and still getting wins?

 

[Exsilium]

I find it a bit weird the timing of Hannant and Soward and co laying into Griffin now that he is fired. If they genuinely thought he was such a rubbish coach and had rubbish gameplans and was holding Penrith back, why not say it while he was still in the job and still coaching and still getting wins?

Cause the reality is that Griffin wasn’t that bad of a coach and the whole notion that he held back players, stalled careers and is 1/16th the coach Ivan Cleary is nonsense IMO.

 

[mxlegend99]

I find it a bit weird the timing of Hannant and Soward and co laying into Griffin now that he is fired. If they genuinely thought he was such a rubbish coach and had rubbish gameplans and was holding Penrith back, why not say it while he was still in the job and still coaching and still getting wins?

Soward held back because people thought anything negative said about Panthers in anyway (coach included) was viewed as bitter.

He came out before he was actually sacked though with his opinions. Couple of weeks ago.

 

[Xcalibre]

If it wasn't already obvious, Gould is a myth. 5 year plan of megalomania was it?

He signed Griffin knowing the sort of coach he was. Then he extended his contract a further 2 years in 2017, after having FIRST HAND knowledge of his character and coaching style. Now he's not good enough a few weeks out from finals which Penrith are almost certain to participate.

He sacked Cleary and now wants him back to appease Nathan? Wtaf?! You'd think we were talking about Bellamy and Smith, the way he has gone about this. The Clearys aren't worth completely erasing any credibility you still had.

Gus has lost it and I love it. Never did like the Panthers.

 

[mxlegend99]

Cause the reality is that Griffin wasn’t that bad of a coach and the whole notion that he held back players, stalled careers and is 1/16th the coach Ivan Cleary is nonsense IMO.

The list of players who went on to be better at other clubs is pretty extensive though.

Hell until this year the list who got worse would have been tiny. Cartwright would headline that list though and his career started on this trajectory when Hook decided he was the Panthers best 5/8th option.

Hook's real issue though is his lack of game tactics. He doesnt like playing risky footy.

Half our wins this year were by throwing the gameplan out of the window and on the back of natural talent. Cleary in 2016 had a much bigger bag of tricks. Before it became strictly putting up a huge towering bomb

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I got to the part where Gus says 'Ivan and Dave were having a general discussion and Dave innocently asked him if he would come back to penrith. It then went from there' and turned it off. You honestly buy this?

If so would you like to buy this rock that keeps bears away?

I read that David O'Neill and Ivan are close, so that's not inconceivable. Loose wording of the actual event, but those sort of things can start with a casual 'how about it?'.

As I said on the Warriors forum, no matter how much Ivan has said a contract is a contract blah blah and may contradict his own words, blood is thicker than water. If Penrith are offering him mega $ and he's going to get to coach his son, like he wants to, he's not going to give a f**k for too long about what the media and guys on LU say about his character and hypocrisy.

All makes me think when Gus said 'we won't stand in his way' about Nathan going to Wests, he knew all along that Ivan was likely to be coming the other way. And Gus also doesn't give a f**k what anyone thinks, otherwise he wouldn't behave like the merkin he is.

 

[coolsteve]

just say cleary goes to panthers and loses the first 10 games . Is Gould capable of sacking him without upsetting Nathan? What then? Let both go and another coach payed out?, Ha , fecking Gould