Panthers v. Heels

[Iamback]

The knock miss was mentioned.
I haven't heard mentioned was how Parra got the ball for the suspect penalty try.

Ball charged down by Parra. Opacic in front picks it up.

Even as an accidental offside we get the ball back

Oh and don't get me started on the To'o no try BS.

 

[soc123_au]

Oh and don't get me started on the To'o no try BS.

Swings and roundabouts. It's a crap rule, but it was only going to go one way. In a perfect world common sense should be applied, when that was the case they made a mess of it. We have had a few go our way as well, so it somewhat evens itself out.

We had more than enough other chances to win the game. Parra were well up for the contest and we just couldn't quite get it done. The pleasing part is you can see where the improvement comes from. Better kicking game and apply pressure gets it done.

 

[The_Frog]

You cannot say the refs do not love us this year. That kikau knockout has to be the worst miss ever by a ref

Since last week when they missed one by the Roosters that also led to a try.

 

[Iamback]

Swings and roundabouts. It's a crap rule, but it was only going to go one way. In a perfect world common sense should be applied, when that was the case they made a mess of it. We have had a few go our way as well, so it somewhat evens itself out.

We had more than enough other chances to win the game. Parra were well up for the contest and we just couldn't quite get it done. The pleasing part is you can see where the improvement comes from. Better kicking game and apply pressure gets it done.

Not blaming the loss on it.

Just another example of poor refereeing.

Look at it from a players/coaches point of view. How do you stop it?

Martin goes through the line as you are told
Doesn't grab the defender on his way or change his line

Just frustrating as a fan with the game atm

 

[murraymob]

We lost by 2 just a few twists needed .mix up the kicking game kick early as well as bombs .1 more forward on the bench
Any time the top teams play each other it’s the 1 %. Things that win games .not catching the ball at fullback .But at the end of the day we’ll played parra .we now get ready for Melbourne

 

[Girds89]

The refs were shit house both ways last night.

He just lost control of the ruck and line speed.. trying to be unbiased it was probably both waya but i thought reed and nathan brown in particular were offside literally all night.

The kiks drop is seriously embarrasing for the refs..

The penalty try... my parra mates even said that was a tough one.

My parra mates said the obstruction no try was bs lol. We all knew that any way.

Sutton f@cked up at one point and gave us 6 again when we were on our 30 instead of blowing a penalty. Like do they even know the rules??? Bloody embarrasing..

But we just have to be better.

Like i said last night i just dont think weve been that impressive this year. Weve done what we had too to win. Last night looked no execption... just doing what we had too to win execpt parra turned up and we just werent in good enough form to blow away a team that played near their best.

I dont buy into all the parra talk about all their outs.. waqa is crap and shouldnt get back into that team. Only 2 blokes they had out that will force their way in is maybe sivo and defs nikuore.

We were basically full strength other than sorensen.

A few small changes for next week MUST change now.

1. Nath sort out your short and mid field kicking game.. get your bombs right and land them in right area or find another option. Find some patience with the team and understand we cant just score within 5 tackles against the top sides. Nath and luai were the kings at rolling it in for 6 again not so long ago. Bring it back boys immediatley.

2. Im a big kenny fan. I love how hard he tries and love that he gives it his absolute all every time he wears a panthers jersey BUT.. i think its just clear in a tight game that he isnt trusted to fill the 9 role. Api played the 80 last night.. so we have a few options... i think just leave salmon on the pine as the 14. He can play dummy or any other spot if injury.. than roll with 3 recognised forwards.

 

[parra-matters]

Now that is how footy should be played every week, both teams busting their arses to get the win.
Bodies on the line, tough runs, big hits in defence.
Battle of the West.
Well played both teams it was a cracker!
Imagine these 2 in a GF?
Best of luck for the rest of the season til we meet again!

 

[souf aussie panther]

Travis Burns offered more than Luai does..

 

[chrisD]

Now that is how footy should be played every week, both teams busting their arses to get the win.
Bodies on the line, tough runs, big hits in defence.
Battle of the West.
Well played both teams it was a cracker!
Imagine these 2 in a GF?
Best of luck for the rest of the season til we meet again!

Not really. You didn't break us up the middle or ever get around us, didn't win field position from getting over the advantage line or forcing an error through strong defence. You didn't produce any particular enterprising or creative play. If every rugby league game was like the way the Eels played last night it'd be junk. You just caught us on a night where nothing fell our way.

 

[Girds89]

Let parra have their moment.

They played their best and got the 2 points..

Weve needed that loss for a number of weeks. Hopefully they fix a few things up this week now..

We just havent been clinical yet in any facet like we were at our best last year. Weve had moments that have been really good but id say overall we are about 75% to 80%..

Naths kicking will go a long way to getting it up there.

Romey taking on the line more. Want to see romey at 1st reciever more... he only ever plays first reciever on the left. Get him in at 1st reciever and nath out wider at 2nd reciever.. romey is electric with ball in hand and defences stop and watch.

Swapping him out for yeo for the odd play will help mix it up in attack and he offers a different set of skills with ball in hand to yeo.. just half a dozen times a game to mix it up and get luai running more especially in the middle against tired defenders. Him running at a tired paulo is more effective than yeo as good as he is.

At the moment when luai takes the line on hes running at other halfs, 2nd rowers, and centres. Much easier for him.to carve up tired props and hookers who have made 40 tackles..

Want to see critta just hit the line at speed when he gets the ball..hes bid and strong. To much jinking and weaving.

The nucleus is there and theres been moments when its clicked but its just not happening at 100% yet.

I really want to see riki get a go.. we know the 3rd forward on the bench will only get 15 to 20mins absolute max.

Riki has a really good offload is a bigger body than smith but way more mobile.. hard to tackle too..

I think hed offer more impact than others for a short stint. Similar to spencers impact but in a 2nd rowers role.

Salmon
Spencer
Soro
Riki

Im not a fan of salmon really being on the bench but hes the closest to tmay that we have.

Tmays been carving up the super league..wouldnt be suprised to see him back here.

 

[The Predictor]

Every team needs a grub

You certainly have the best!!!

 

[BossleyPanther]

You certainly have the best!!!

He should just concentrate on being a 5/8 what has he done last 2 games?

 

[The_Frog]

Travis Burns offered more than Luai does..

Ouch!

 

[Iamback]

He should just concentrate on being a 5/8 what has he done last 2 games?

made his tackles unlike the other half.

The side as a whole has been poor

 

[Iamback]

Let parra have their moment.

They played their best and got the 2 points..

Weve needed that loss for a number of weeks. Hopefully they fix a few things up this week now..

We just havent been clinical yet in any facet like we were at our best last year. Weve had moments that have been really good but id say overall we are about 75% to 80%..

Naths kicking will go a long way to getting it up there.

Romey taking on the line more. Want to see romey at 1st reciever more... he only ever plays first reciever on the left. Get him in at 1st reciever and nath out wider at 2nd reciever.. romey is electric with ball in hand and defences stop and watch.

Swapping him out for yeo for the odd play will help mix it up in attack and he offers a different set of skills with ball in hand to yeo.. just half a dozen times a game to mix it up and get luai running more especially in the middle against tired defenders. Him running at a tired paulo is more effective than yeo as good as he is.

At the moment when luai takes the line on hes running at other halfs, 2nd rowers, and centres. Much easier for him.to carve up tired props and hookers who have made 40 tackles..

Want to see critta just hit the line at speed when he gets the ball..hes bid and strong. To much jinking and weaving.

The nucleus is there and theres been moments when its clicked but its just not happening at 100% yet.

I really want to see riki get a go.. we know the 3rd forward on the bench will only get 15 to 20mins absolute max.

Riki has a really good offload is a bigger body than smith but way more mobile.. hard to tackle too..

I think hed offer more impact than others for a short stint. Similar to spencers impact but in a 2nd rowers role.

Salmon
Spencer
Soro
Riki

Im not a fan of salmon really being on the bench but hes the closest to tmay that we have.

Tmays been carving up the super league..wouldnt be suprised to see him back here.

Riki can't play until Round 12

 

[The_Frog]

Tmays been carving up the super league..wouldnt be suprised to see him back here.

Not so sure about carving up, but he's been used by Catalans just about all over the field and is proving valuable for them. Nearing the halfway mark of the season an adequate replacement has not been found.

 

[Girds89]

Riki can't play until Round 12

Eiso or smith than.

Spencers biggest issue is he just gets gassed so quickly and becomes a liability around the ruck.

Last night was soo obvious. After 10mins ge was deadset horrible at marker and hes line speed and lateral movement was gone. Others have to carry him.

Moses leota still does to an extent but he doesnt gas out now till after 20 to 25min stints.

Has taken moses 6 or so plus years of fg to realise you cant get lazy at marker.

If spencer is only good for 10 to 15mins stints just use him as that and have eiso on the bench.

Use leota and spencer for shorter all impact stints and eiso and fish to play longer more solid mins where you know no tackles will be missed and just solid allround..

Soro as much as he is a middle can play wider but kiks and martin play big mins anyway so hed just need to give kiks a spell for a bit and than can play wherever.

We simply can not keep carrying kenny/luke and salmon on the bench.

 

[Iamback]

The refs were shit house both ways last night.

He just lost control of the ruck and line speed.. trying to be unbiased it was probably both waya but i thought reed and nathan brown in particular were offside literally all night.

The kiks drop is seriously embarrasing for the refs..

The penalty try... my parra mates even said that was a tough one.

My parra mates said the obstruction no try was bs lol. We all knew that any way.

Sutton f@cked up at one point and gave us 6 again when we were on our 30 instead of blowing a penalty. Like do they even know the rules??? Bloody embarrasing..

But we just have to be better.

The refs were shit house both ways last night.

He just lost control of the ruck and line speed.. trying to be unbiased it was probably both waya but i thought reed and nathan brown in particular were offside literally all night.

The kiks drop is seriously embarrasing for the refs..

The penalty try... my parra mates even said that was a tough one.

My parra mates said the obstruction no try was bs lol. We all knew that any way.

Sutton f@cked up at one point and gave us 6 again when we were on our 30 instead of blowing a penalty. Like do they even know the rules??? Bloody embarrasing..

But we just have to be better.

Like i said last night i just dont think weve been that impressive this year. Weve done what we had too to win. Last night looked no execption... just doing what we had too to win execpt parra turned up and we just werent in good enough form to blow away a team that played near their best.

I dont buy into all the parra talk about all their outs.. waqa is crap and shouldnt get back into that team. Only 2 blokes they had out that will force their way in is maybe sivo and defs nikuore.

We were basically full strength other than sorensen.

A few small changes for next week MUST change now.

1. Nath sort out your short and mid field kicking game.. get your bombs right and land them in right area or find another option. Find some patience with the team and understand we cant just score within 5 tackles against the top sides. Nath and luai were the kings at rolling it in for 6 again not so long ago. Bring it back boys immediatley.

2. Im a big kenny fan. I love how hard he tries and love that he gives it his absolute all every time he wears a panthers jersey BUT.. i think its just clear in a tight game that he isnt trusted to fill the 9 role. Api played the 80 last night.. so we have a few options... i think just leave salmon on the pine as the 14. He can play dummy or any other spot if injury.. than roll with 3 recognised forwards.

The refereeing has been poor

What they go back for and don't too

 

[Iamback]

Eiso or smith than.

Spencers biggest issue is he just gets gassed so quickly and becomes a liability around the ruck.

Last night was soo obvious. After 10mins ge was deadset horrible at marker and hes line speed and lateral movement was gone. Others have to carry him.

Moses leota still does to an extent but he doesnt gas out now till after 20 to 25min stints.

Has taken moses 6 or so plus years of fg to realise you cant get lazy at marker.

If spencer is only good for 10 to 15mins stints just use him as that and have eiso on the bench.

Use leota and spencer for shorter all impact stints and eiso and fish to play longer more solid mins where you know no tackles will be missed and just solid allround..

Soro as much as he is a middle can play wider but kiks and martin play big mins anyway so hed just need to give kiks a spell for a bit and than can play wherever.

We simply can not keep carrying kenny/luke and salmon on the bench.

Eiso can't play backrow.

need to go to market to plug holes

 

[Girds89]

Not so sure about carving up, but he's been used by Catalans just about all over the field and is proving valuable for them. Nearing the halfway mark of the season an adequate replacement has not been found.

Had a number of mom performances. Been their best player of the year by all reports.

Think he set up four trys last week and scored one himself..

I know its only sl.

I know a lot including myself were critical of him last year but hes twice the player salmon is.

And i like what salmon has done for us this year..hes been solid.

But if tmay would come back cheap next year minus the attitude its probs smart business