Parra v Manly LIVE game day thread, March 18, 2018

[Poupou Escobar]

That may have been so, but we never played the ball incorrectly as consistently as we did at the back of end last season. Perhaps combined with your theory, this catapulted us from a mid table potential Top 8 team, into a Top 4 team.

The main part of the tactic is now outlawed at present and we need to find something new.

Then so does every other team who now has to play the ball correctly. If our ruck is slowed down then so is everyone else's.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Perhaps his forwards are better at getting a go forward for him then.

They certainly are. They were fifth worst for post-contact metres last year while we were third worst.

 

[Chipmunk]

Then so does every other team who now has to play the ball correctly. If our ruck is slowed down then so is everyone else's.

I don't disagree with that, but I'm not sure we know how to combat that either.

 

[hindy111]

The loss yesterday had nothing to do with Moses. Not sure why he is your scapegoat for our loss. not sure why you even care TBH.

The old cliche is that the forwards lay the platform. If you want to be critical of players for the loss (and you are more than welcome to here) then I suggest you start with the forwards who were out muscled and out enthused.

Yes but halves need to help with direction a good kicking game etc...
DCE was masterclass

 

[Gary Gutful]

I wonder how many heart attacks our players will have at training this week?

#UnfitMerkins

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Evans is a worse signing than Justin poore

Hopefully we can ship him around to some other club

He was the only Eels forward to make 10 metres per carry last week. That means he is the best in our pack at running the ball. He was a bag of shit yesterday under fatigue though. Apparently he doesn't like the heat:

https://www.parraeels.com.au/news/2...ut-and-taking-on-the-sea-eagles-in-round-two/

So he should be quality through the middle of the year and then drop off just in time for the finals. Luckily he's not a key player. Just another middle forward with a job to do.

 

[TheParraboy]

Nah you're right, jogging through a few half arsed exercises and kicking a footy for half an hour cost us the game....

What a bunch of unprofessional and lazy merkins are Manly. Doing majority of their warm up inside in the shade to conserve energy.

 

[Chipmunk]

They certainly are. They were fifth worst for post-contact metres last year while we were third worst.

Post contact metres don't tell even half the story in being able to determine if a teams forwards are making ground up the middle

If post contact metres was even a worthwhile statistic on it's own to determine whether a team was going to be successful, the best team in the comp by a country mile all season wouldn't be the 12th best team at it and another team who finished in the Top 4 wouldn't be 14th.

It looks like you've just proven yourself that post contact metres by itself is a very overrated statistic in being able to determine whether a team will be successful or not.

 

[EelsFan05]

Why would we be the only ones playing the ball slower now that we have to use our foot? Do giants have better control of their giant feet?

I guess all the coaches that love big aggresive hard running props and are consistent premiership threats, year in year out, know nothing. And of course you know everything.

Our small pack, which you vehemently defend, is getting belted and is currently running last with a -64 f/a. For our pack to be effective nearly everything has to be in our favour. Slight ruck adjustments that don't suit the only way we artificially create ruck speed is going to affect us greatly. This pack at the moment has no other way of creating ruck speed. I'm sure BA is just as concerned about our prop rotation as most of us fans. Evans wasn't and wont be the solution.

 

[Gronk]

Yes but halves need to help with direction a good kicking game etc...
DCE was masterclass

Bro we had the ball for 16 minutes in total for the entire match.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

LMAO 40 min warmup in the extreme heat and people didn't believe me that BA is a f**king moron

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yes but halves need to help with direction a good kicking game etc...
DCE was masterclass

I'd say DCE had a bit more time to execute than did Moses.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Post contact metres don't tell even half the story in being able to determine if a teams forwards are making ground up the middle

If post contact metres was even a worthwhile statistic on it's own to determine whether a team was going to be successful, the best team in the comp by a country mile all season wouldn't be the 12th best team at it and another team who finished in the Top 4 wouldn't be 14th.

It looks like you've just proven yourself that post contact metres by itself is a very overrated statistic in being able to determine whether a team will be successful or not.

Well you're the one going on about Melbourne's go forward. I just showed you it isn't the be-all and end-all of a team's performance.

So yes, I did prove the assertion false. But you were the one who tried to make the point.

Melbourne last year were great because of their spine and their defence. Not because of their go forward. The Cowboys were good because of their defence and their go forward (they were first for post-contact metres), the latter largely due to one player.

 

[Gary Gutful]

LMAO 40 min warmup in the extreme heat and people didn't believe me that BA is a f**king moron

40 min now? F**k me, it’s getting longer and longer.

Before the end of the week it will be 1.5 hours and then when we all call for him to be arseholed at the end of the year it will be a 4 hr warm up.

 

[ash411]

Yeah I do......It's wonderful!

So much better since we got rid of Moses & Woods. Hows it going for you?

You didn't "get rid" of anyone. They ran screaming from that dumpster fire of a club.

enjoy this brief winning streak you're on, it won't last much longer..

 

[Chipmunk]

Penrith's starting forwards looked fatigued as well before they went off. Fancy looking fatigued when you have to do all the tackling! It was 36 degrees FFS!

And if we had 69% of the ball in the first 30 minutes we must've had f**k all ball for the next ten minutes because we finished the half with 58%

That sounds about right. if there was 75 sets in a game, lets say that is broken down 50/50 in each half, so 38 sets in the first half and 37 sets in the second half. If we had 69% of possession in the first 30 minutes and ended up with 58% at half time, that would mean that we would've had roughly 19 sets to 10 in the first 30 minutes and then roughly 3 sets 6 in the last 10 minutes. Something like that anyway.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I guess all the coaches that love big aggresive hard running props and are consistent premiership threats, year in year out, know nothing.

Who said they know nothing? You're the one claiming Brad Arthur knows nothing because he refuses to break the bank on Andrew Fifita or David Klemmer.

And of course you know everything.

No YUO know everything!!!

Our small pack, which you vehemently defend, is getting belted and is currently running last with a -64 f/a.

And the same pack (minus Evans) made the top four last year. Two losses and you suddenly think you're right again? Tigers fans think two losses proves they're right about Mitch Moses. The fact is you're all f**kwits, only seeing what you hope to see.

The fact is our attitude has been shit since we led the Panthers by three tries. That will be fixed without signing Junior Paulo.

For our pack to be effective nearly everything has to be in our favour. Slight ruck adjustments that don't suit the only way we artificially create ruck speed is going to affect us greatly. This pack at the moment has no other way of creating ruck speed. I'm sure BA is just as concerned about our prop rotation as most of us fans. Evans wasn't and wont be the solution.

Since we put three first half tries on the Panthers our problem has been defence, not ruck speed.

 

[Chipmunk]

Well you're the one going on about Melbourne's go forward. I just showed you it isn't the be-all and end-all of a team's performance.

So yes, I did prove the assertion false. But you were the one who tried to make the point.

Melbourne last year were great because of their spine and their defence. Not because of their go forward. The Cowboys were good because of their defence and their go forward (they were first for post-contact metres), the latter largely due to one player.

So all that proves is that Billy Slater didn't need go-forward to play well, which probably also proves that Bevan French is nothing like him.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

40 min now? F**k me, it’s getting longer and longer.

Before the end of the week it will be 1.5 hours and then when we all call for him to be arseholed at the end of the year it will be a 4 hr warm up.

I can't believe the merkin made us camp out overnight on Brookvale Oval in 50 degree heat FFS!

 

[forward pass]

Nah you're right, jogging through a few half arsed exercises and kicking a footy for half an hour cost us the game....

Um - no it has nothing to do with what they were doing - it is being out in that heat that is the problem. Just standing there doing nothing would sap your energy. But clearly you are a finely tuned specimen and it would not impact you at all.

Google it mate - not difficult.