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parra vs manly trial 2

Poupou Escobar

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Hindy, all good comments but to use Kelly and kicking game in the same sentence is a big call, he doesn't have one!

Arthur's was happy with Kelly's kicking game: http://www.parraeels.com.au/news-display/Arthur-We-didnt-convert-our-opportunities/90821

I've also never had a problem with Kelly's kicking game. It's obviously not as good as Sandow's but it's good enough. Our kickers have been put under a lot of pressure for the past two years and our kick chase has tended to go up and down with our confidence levels.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Lets not think Norman will work either.Brisbane rarely let a good one go, and he was playing qld cup.

We were just lucky Brisbane had a lot of money tied up in halves for this year, limiting the amount they could give to Norman.

As for his ability in the halves, the last time Brisbane made the finals Corey Norman played over 20 games in the number six jersey.
 

Joely01

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I will give Kelly one more chance to prove himself as I will Sandow.
Lets not think Norman will work either.Brisbane rarely let a good one go, and he was playing qld cup. We may see Sandow/Kelly combo . Normans kicking game is ordinary too. And as much as we hope he becomes the next Lockyer well he may end up the next parra flop.He isn't first grade proven as of yet.And hasn't played 5/8 for a while

He was playing qld cup because he signed with us.
Griffin has no idea, he was playing him fullback, and Hoffman on the wing.
Norman was one of the broncos best at the start of last year as well.
 

hindy111

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I still think that Hayne may play 5/8 and Norman halfback and BA is foxing us all.Just a gut feeling ; )
 

hindy111

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Oh im am just stating Norman isn't a proven quality player, there is no reason sandow or Kelly couldn't pass him cause the 3 all have some sort of ability
 

hindy111

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So how do we start our pack? Is KE going to start, is Ben Smith part of team? Where does Santi fair, terepo Maua?
 

Eels Dude

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And one of the players who doesn't do anywhere near as much movement off the ball as the elite fullbacks is Jarryd Hayne.

With ball in hand he is the equal of the best fullbacks in the game, in fact I'd say he's the best. Likewise in defence.

But a fullback needs to be busy to create space for himself and for his other playmakers.

Yeah good point about Hayne actually. Burt was was really good at that, despite his criticism on here and lack of other abilities to play at fullback. It's hard to criticize Hayne though given he's he's single-handedly won us matches and kept us in games the past few years.
 

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Lost in the 9s? He was one of our best.
The whole stop dead thing is a trap for opposition defence and is a play that is very common in touch football, a format that while playing 9s having a touch football skill set suits.

He was good at times, but when I say he stopped dead, he stopped dead and literally stayed that way for several seconds allowing the defence reorganize themselves. Anyway, if Arthur thought he was the best option for our starting side he would have picked him because he's clearly more talented than Kelly. He must just be more happier with Kelly's attitude and effort, or just think his style is better suited to the rest of the team.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Yeah good point about Hayne actually. Burt was was really good at that, despite his criticism on here and lack of other abilities to play at fullback. It's hard to criticize Hayne though given he's he's single-handedly won us matches and kept us in games the past few years.

It's mostly hard to criticise him because he's f**king awesome. It makes it hard to discuss him in context of the salary cap and his lack of suitability for various positions and other team-related factors.
 

hindy111

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If Burt was still at our club I would have him at halfback before Sandow or Kelly.

Burt was a great fullback in his prime.People bag him but he ran holes and supported well.2005 him and Tim Smith where lethal
 

hindy111

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Am I th only one who thinks burt may of been a decent Halfback?? lol always wished he had a go there
 

Gary Gutful

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If Burt was still at our club I would have him at halfback before Sandow or Kelly.

Burt was a great fullback in his prime.People bag him but he ran holes and supported well.2005 him and Tim Smith where lethal

Running holes does not a halfback make.
 

Obscene Assassin

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That'll do me if Joseph Paulo gets the 7 ahead of Kelly or Sandow. Or for that matter ahead of Liam Foran, Ben Jones, Toby Evans or Zach Docker-Clay

Liam Foran is a numpty and there's a reason why he was dropped from an ESL team, he'll be gone pretty soon. Ben Jones doesn't have a contract to my knowledge, Toby Evans has been poor in the three trials he has played and many have said that if he is even considered for first grade it's a joke, as for ZDC he's still 18 and learning how to steer an NYC team around, in the future possibly sooner rather than later he'll make first grade but I don't think it will be the #7 jersey.

I know it isn't the best of achievements but I thought Paulo was better than good in the USA team he led to the Semi-Finals of the WC. He can do exactly Kelly does and provides us a better running game than Luke. There's no reason why Sef can't be an NRL half for our team given our other options.
 

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Am I th only one who thinks burt may of been a decent Halfback?? lol always wished he had a go there

I think he could have been a good halfback been developed as one early in his career. He certainly had the vision and the football smarts to be one. At the same time though he was always better as a support player instead of someone running the show. Didn't he start at halfback in the final game of 2011 where we beat the Titans to avoid the spoon?
 

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It's mostly hard to criticise him because he's f**king awesome. It makes it hard to discuss him in context of the salary cap and his lack of suitability for various positions and other team-related factors.

You're right. Given he's been pretty much the only plus for the past few years, we really can't afford to lose him either. If we were a mid table side we probably could afford to, but he's a super-star once you find you need to keep... and he probably makes the club a lot of money via marketing etc which makes him even more valuable.
 

Joely01

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Liam Foran is a numpty and there's a reason why he was dropped from an ESL team, he'll be gone pretty soon. Ben Jones doesn't have a contract to my knowledge, Toby Evans has been poor in the three trials he has played and many have said that if he is even considered for first grade it's a joke, as for ZDC he's still 18 and learning how to steer an NYC team around, in the future possibly sooner rather than later he'll make first grade but I don't think it will be the #7 jersey.

I know it isn't the best of achievements but I thought Paulo was better than good in the USA team he led to the Semi-Finals of the WC. He can do exactly Kelly does and provides us a better running game than Luke. There's no reason why Sef can't be an NRL half for our team given our other options.

Are you actually being serious about Sef being half back?

He shouldn't even be on the bench let alone half for our side, the guy is rubbish.
 

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I know it isn't the best of achievements but I thought Paulo was better than good in the USA team he led to the Semi-Finals of the WC. He can do exactly Kelly does and provides us a better running game than Luke. There's no reason why Sef can't be an NRL half for our team given our other options.


Wasn't Paulo playing against sides made up of reserve graders and park footy players in those games the USA won? The same side that is playing a 67 year old Matt Peterson. He strikes me as a player who is a good reserve grader but isn't up to the speed of first grade. I doubt he'd make the top 17 of too many other NRL squads let alone be good enough to be a starting half.
 
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