Parramatta Eels Holden Cup & Junior Reps Thread Part III

[Poupou Escobar]

You might wanna check that. My recollection is that players 20 and under can play. The cap thing determines where they count, not where they play! It can only prevent 2nd tier player playing 1sts, not the other way.

I would also guess Tepai was upgraded for 2015 and forward.

Then why have an NYC cap? You could just pay all your promising under 20s in line with the 26th highest paid player in the club.

 

[hindy111]

Warriors are just behind us as favourites or the title.We are $3 they are $3.20.The bookies like them more than dragons and broncos.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Anyone head off to the SG Ball trials tonight and the Harold Matthews last night?

 

[Delboy]

Saw the Matts last night, very high standard. Jesse Cronin , the player signed from Maitland was pretty good, Stefano Utoikamanau was a big impressive unit playing a year above. A young winger from NT , Willy Ngarah did well

Going to be a big effort to grade the players, very strong across the park, halves were the ones that need to do more work, but think they will be OK as they were not really playing in a team set

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Broncos were just outplayed by the Dragons but still won. You don't see that much in under 20s.

 

[strider]

does that mean that tool is gonna be back this week? :roll:

 

[Pazza]

Is the game on Fox tonight?

 

[The Colonel]

Is the game on Fox tonight?

Live at around 5pm

 

[Forty20]

Geez merkins, where is the game day hype?

Spoiler: All aboard the hype train

*edit: Language Warning*

 

[Tony Bongo]

Geez merkins, where is the game day hype?

Spoiler: All aboard the hype train

Wooooo Hoooo - Grand Final here we come!

 

[oldmancraigy]

Then why have an NYC cap? You could just pay all your promising under 20s in line with the 26th highest paid player in the club.

But I think if they aren't in the top 25, then they would have to count against the 'NYC cap' (either as a top20 NYC player, or from the 'other money' allowance to NYC players).

So if they are paid as much as the 26th highest paid player (ie, $70-79k), then they would be eligible to play NRL at that amount, or have to count on the 2nd tier cap. Same story for NYC, they could play at that amount (which would smash the puny NYC cap), or count against NYC 2nd tier (which would even more smash that...).

It kind of works fine IMO. That's why teams pay their most talented 3-5 20s players as top 25 NRL guys, even if they are no chance of playing NRL.
And even if someone else plays 'up', no biggie, they can still fit in the NYC cap anyway.


Dunno if my post makes any sense, makes sense in my mind - but not sure I explained it well (typing in a hurry!)

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No it makes perfect sense, but that's just my point - your NYC players have to count under either of the NRL or NYC salary caps. So they will be earning either $77500+ or less than about $20k. Anything in between and they can't play NYC even if they're age eligible.

This is why Bryce Cartwright and Jake Trbojevic made no NYC appearances this year while Kelepi Tanginoa (top 25) played most of his games in that grade. I'd say it's also why Holbrook said ZDC will play NSW Cup next year.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

I'm sure he played a couple of games, probably the same amount as Pauli Pauli. I feel like his first game was against us when we played them at Parra.

 

[Gazzamatta]

No Foxtel here. Anyone doing updates? Where are ya XL/XX? Gazzas gettin anxious.

 

[oldmancraigy]

No it makes perfect sense, but that's just my point - your NYC players have to count under either of the NRL or NYC salary caps. So they will be earning either $77500+ or less than about $20k. Anything in between and they can't play NYC even if they're age eligible.

This is why Bryce Cartwright and Jake Trbojevic made no NYC appearances this year while Kelepi Tanginoa (top 25) played most of his games in that grade. I'd say it's also why Holbrook said ZDC will play NSW Cup next year.

Yes - makes sense.

The cap thing is pretty daft, they would be better served scrapping the 2nd tier and NYC caps, and combining them to a single 2nd tier cap of 25 players (the $$ amounts larger than current combined). Set a minimum NRL top 25 salary, then set a minimum NYC salary, and require teams to field an NYC team (as currently happens). Then, in the case of injury, or 'mid season finds', allow teams to play minimum salary blokes (pro rated) in either comp - since having extra minimum guys on top of the required top 25 doesn't really allow any major cheating, let teams use up to 10 (or whatever number) extra players on top of the cap at that salary.

 

[Forty20]

The Parramatta Eels will run out with an unchanged line up for this evening's game.

 

[natheel]

Come on boys

 

[T.S Quint]

Wow. Stacy Jones got fat.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Wooohooooo. Go you good things.
Ta XL/XX.

 

[Forty20]

Here we go folks!

Parra will be receiving the ball to start the game.