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Parramatta Eels sign Josh Papalii for 2014

Gary Gutful

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I said it was my opinion - that doesn't make it a bean.

As for the Raiders' fans - 99% of them conducted themselves with class, and I appreciate it. I'm still f**king pissed off, though.

Fair enough. Agree that most raiders fans conducted themselves with class (even the ones that ended up in the swamp).

It is unfortunate but it is what it is.
 
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Papali can't keep his word even worse he can't honor a signed contract. Says a lot about him and his upbringing. Do we want these type of people at our club? No.

He showed he has no real morals and we dodged 1.3 million dollar bullet.

We should invest in our top line juniors keep them under wraps. Then go after the best juniors from other teams.
 
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Papali can't keep his word even worse he can't honor a signed contract. Says a lot about him and his upbringing. Do we want these type of people at our club? No.

He showed he has no real morals and we dodged 1.3 million dollar bullet.

We should invest in our top line juniors keep them under wraps. Then go after the best juniors from other teams.

Mate, I wouldn't even be that harsh on him. It's not great, but he's young and has got a circus surrounding him, and he's unlikely to have much of a commercial background. I think the Raiders (management, not fans) apparent behaviour has been pretty slack....if they thought he was worth the amount they have apparently paid, they had the opportunity to respond before he signed with us.
 
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Mate, I wouldn't even be that harsh on him. It's not great, but he's young and has got a circus surrounding him, and he's unlikely to have much of a commercial background. I think the Raiders (management, not fans) apparent behaviour has been pretty slack....if they thought he was worth the amount they have apparently paid, they had the opportunity to respond before he signed with us.

i think his manager has a lot to answer for as well
 

strider

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Raider 69 has been all class during this saga. Doesn't need to cop that.

i don't think any of the canberra fans who came in here did anything/much wrong - it was parra fans who couldn't accept the potential reality of the situation that turned things into a bitch fight
 

emjaycee

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Papali can't keep his word even worse he can't honor a signed contract. Says a lot about him and his upbringing. Do we want these type of people at our club? No.

He showed he has no real morals and we dodged 1.3 million dollar bullet.

We should invest in our top line juniors keep them under wraps. Then go after the best juniors from other teams.


Totally agree although this plan would take 4-5 years to make us a premiership force.

Assume we start in 2011 blooding a couple of young'uns like Loko and Allgood. Follow up with the plan in 2012 and add Morgan, Blair, Paulo, Ryan and Sio to the top team. In 2013 we bring up some juniors (ours and others) like Pauli Pauli, Edwards and Terepi and in 2014 add Hoppa and a couple of others and suddenly we are a solid top 8, maybe even top 4 team.

In 2015, Hayne and all these now experienced juniors take us to glory 29 years after our last GF victory - WHOOHOO.

Too bad it took 5 years. We don't like 5 year plans around here. :shock:
 

oldmancraigy

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ive tried to be civil
its a shitty situation. I dont like the rule. In fact i hate it, he signed a deal, that should be that, but its not under the rules. We've been on the wrong end of it (and thanfully because N.SMith is shit) but now we even the ledger. I am pleased but i still dont like the rule and i think now this is sorted (in fairness to my club's favour) it needs to get sorted.

Im stoked to have Papalii staying with my club but i acknowledge he did it the wrong way. He's made his bed, he'll lay in it, which ever way it goes for his future in 2016.

Shitty rule, im hopeful the league makes this the last time it's able to be exploited. Lesson learnt here on both parties.

Let's be honest, it's a pretty crappy situation for you guys as well??

I'm of the opinion that Papali will be a multiple Origin series kind of player. HOWEVER, if the Raiders had offered him $250-300k a season 3 months ago, I reckon you would've got him at a bargain price.
Now he's costing you $430k per season, and only because he signed that amount with Parra first. It might cost you one of the other talented youngsters??

Anyway, I have no issue with Papali or the Raiders doing what they did. Those are the rules, and I seriously doubt the bloke signed a $430k per season deal with Parra in order to extort that amount out of the Raiders. He was happy enough to move on for the cash offered, but when the Raiders said they'd give the same, he stayed. Good luck to him (but not to the Raiders - hope you lose all your games so that the Eels only come 2nd last, nothing personal, just don't want another spoon!).


On the positive side, we can throw that $400k at someone else, we're not waiting until round 13 (Raiders could've screwed us on that front by holding out until round 12 to announce Papali was exercising the clause!)
 
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oldmancraigy

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i don't think any of the canberra fans who came in here did anything/much wrong - it was parra fans who couldn't accept the potential reality of the situation that turned things into a bitch fight

I think you should put up your hand for most of the blame in this (and every) fight.
 

Iafeta

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Papali can't keep his word even worse he can't honor a signed contract. Says a lot about him and his upbringing. Do we want these type of people at our club? No.

He showed he has no real morals and we dodged 1.3 million dollar bullet.

We should invest in our top line juniors keep them under wraps. Then go after the best juniors from other teams.

I agree. No morals at all. Unfortunately from the moment he was announced as signing with you guys, I had little hope he'd end up there. Remember, this is Mr 100%... as in, "I'm 100% a Kiwi". Right up until he was getting picked in the Kiwis.
 

strider

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i also particularly love how when the media claims he signed with us for big dollars it's media bullshit talk .... but when he reneges and signs with canberra for big dollars its all true and those mofos just paid overs :lol:

come on - i'll have ya's all
 

Etu Uaisele

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other raiders off contract at the end of the year...

Shaun Berrigan, Shannon Boyd, Dimitri Pelo, Sami Sauiluma, Paul Vaughan, Glen Buttriss, Jarrod Croker, Mark Nicholls, Joe Picker, Michael Picker, Joel Thompson, Trevor Thurling, Brett White, Sam Williams, Hayden Crockett, Mitchell Cronin, Haydon Hodge, Scott Jones, Jarrad Kennedy

NEXT!

they should have just given us papalii now we might pick up 2-3 other players for the same money



Do you have a list of first graders ?
 

Jason70

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Isn't the bigger concern the inability of our club to seal the deal with high profile players. We had Izzy and Papali and somehow they have slipped through the net and now talk that Hopoate has a get out clause, well we know how that ones going to end.

Can u imagine this happenning at the Dogs, no way.

If it were not for the plight of the Sharks we would be all over the papers.
 
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