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[Gronk]

Ha. Opposition Leader is the easiest job in politics. Just show outrage at everything the government does. Seriously - that is all it involves.

Yes but as @Suitman has pointed out, you need to be balanced otherwise you come across as a whiney little bitch and unelectable.

 

[Bandwagon]

Yes but as @Suitman has pointed out, you need to be balanced otherwise you come across as a whiney little bitch and unelectable.

Like uncle Tones?

 

[hineyrulz]

Like uncle Tones?

But he somehow got elected.

Still prefer Tone to the wishy washy myth running the show now.

 

[Bandwagon]

But he somehow got elected.

Still prefer Tone to the wishy washy myth running the show now.

Yeah, that was my point, the "most effective opposition leader ever" sure was good at opposing shit.

On Tones Vs Mal, I'd have to disagree, Waffles might well be rather ineffective, but that also means he can't do too much to f**k things up.

Personally I prefer a bit meh to a bit of a disaster.

 

[hineyrulz]

Yeah, that was my point, the "most effective opposition leader ever" sure was good at opposing shit.

On Tones Vs Mal, I'd have to disagree, Waffles might well be rather ineffective, but that also means he can't do too much to f**k things up.

Personally I prefer a bit meh to a bit of a disaster.

Yeah you are probably right, I respect Tone more because at least he follows through in what he believes in.

Even if I think his views and beliefs are f**ked.

 

[Gronk]

Yeah you are probably right, I respect Tone more because at least he follows through in what he believes in.

Even if I think his views and beliefs are f**ked.

You think his beliefs are f**ked yet you'd have him as preferred PM ?

May I remind you about the cabinet paper release of his no welfare for anyone under 30 proposal a few days ago ? We don't need anyone like him near Canberra again thanks. He is as a weapons grade nutter.

 

[hineyrulz]

You think his beliefs are f**ked yet you'd have him as preferred PM ?

May I remind you about the cabinet paper release of his no welfare for anyone under 30 proposal a few days ago ? We don't need anyone like him near Canberra again thanks. He is as a weapons grade nutter.

Mal is a gutless little weasel with no balls. Same as Rudd all style and absolutely no substance.

He goes which way the wind is blowing, hardly what you want in a leader let alone a PM.

 

[Gronk]

Mal is a gutless little weasel with no balls. Same as Rudd all style and absolutely no substance.

He goes which way the wind is blowing, hardly what you want in a leader let alone a PM.

I think if you actually look deeper at the situation, you will find that the federal LNP are hamstrung with factions. You have the loony right, the country bumpkins (Nats), the center and the left of centre. Turnbull won the spill over Abbott because they were facing a landslide loss. The 2016 DD election returned Turnbull yet his party led by the loony right are still in disarray. The very merkin you admire (Abbott) is constantly white anting his own party for his own benefit.

To put in a way that is relevant to this site, Abbott is the Denis Fitzgerald of federal politics.

BTW, you say that you admire Abbott bc he follows through with what he says ? Need I remind you of what he said after the leadership spill ?

"My pledge today is to make this change as easy as I can.

"There will be no wrecking, no undermining, and no sniping. I've never leaked or backgrounded against anyone. And I certainly won't start now."

BTW I am historically a labor voter but would rather have a stable Turnbull government in right now than a Shorten government. To get a stable government, merkins like Abbott need to back right off and let Turnbull do what he was elected to do.

 

[hineyrulz]

If stable means nothing gets done ever Talkbull is your man.


I agree Shorten is also far from what the country needs as well.

It’s a sad state of affairs, could be worse we could have Trump.

 

[Gronk]

If stable means nothing gets done ever Talkbull is your man.


I agree Shorten is also far from what the country needs as well.

It’s a sad state of affairs, could be worse we could have Trump.

If you re-read what I said, it gives the reason why the cabinet can't agree on strong policy. The leader has nothing to deliver bc of infighting. People say he should take a stance, but his leadership of the party hangs on the votes of a few fence sitters.

 

[hineyrulz]

If you re-read what I said, it gives the reason why the cabinet can't agree on strong policy. The leader has nothing to deliver bc of infighting. People say he should take a stance, but his leadership of the party hangs on the votes of a few fence sitters.

So He’s more worried about his job than his principles and what’s best for the country???

As I said Weak leader but they are all the same.

 

[Gronk]

So He’s more worried about his job than his principles and what’s best for the country???

As I said Weak leader but they are all the same.

Nah name me a politician who has committed political suicide just so he can get a win. If you do come up with one, I bet that he/she is now viewed as a dumb f**k.

EDIT: Mike Beard in NSW. Took a strong stance with the greyhound industry. Was applauded for a gusty move. It all went pear shape and he ended up resigning "to spend more time with his family".

 

[Gary Gutful]

If only it was that simple @whiney

 

[hineyrulz]

Nah name me a politician who has committed political suicide just so he can get a win. If you do come up with one, I bet that he/she is now viewed as a dumb f**k.

EDIT: Mike Beard in NSW. Took a strong stance with the greyhound industry. Was applauded for a gusty move. It all went pear shape and he ended up resigning "to spend more time with his family".

Howard with a GST in his first term.

Almost cost him his job but he did it anyway.

I reckon it is unfair tax but at least he had the balls to do it.

 

[hineyrulz]

If only it was that simple @whiney

Ken oath it’s simple merkin!!

 

[Gary Gutful]

Howard with a GST in his first term.

Almost cost him his job but he did it anyway.

I reckon it is unfair tax but at least he had the balls to do it.

Different world now. No politician can afford to do it these days.

 

[Gronk]

Howard with a GST in his first term.

Almost cost him his job but he did it anyway.

I reckon it is unfair tax but at least he had the balls to do it.

OMG Howard won the 1996 election with a 45 seat majority. Of course he could flex his muscles without fear of political retribution.

How about you try again, this time with a leader who has a one seat majority and is hanging on to the leadership within his own party by a fingernail.

 

[hineyrulz]

Different world now. No politician can afford to do it these days.

True mate, those were the days.

GST’s and gun buy back schemes were all we had to worry about.

 

[hineyrulz]

OMG Howard won the 1996 election with a 45 seat majority. Of course he could flex his muscles without fear of political retribution.

How about you try again, this time with a leader who has a one seat majority and is hanging on to the leadership within his own party by a fingernail.

Whats the point of leading If you can do anything???

What a total waste of time, I suppose you can just blame your party, the electorate or global warming.

 

[Gronk]

Whats the point of leading If you can do anything???

What a total waste of time, I suppose you can just blame your party, the electorate or global warming.

I give up.