Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

[phantom eel]

He has confidence in Parra as well.
So does Jamie Oliver, also opening an establishment.
Not sure these spurious claims of Parramatta becoming a ghetto have legs tbh.
The govt relocating the Powerhouse Museum (see picture below) into the riverside precent area also suggest they have confidence in Parramatta not becoming a ghetto in 10 years.

I have every confidence in Parramatta and think we should celebrate things like the move of the Powerhouse Museum - but this confidence doesn't need a 50+ storey residential phallic symbol.

I'd also suggest that the developers and the governing body don't think it will either considering there is almost $5 Billion planning to be spent over the next 10 years.
Let's not forget that the city will be getting a most modern 30-35000 seat stadium in the meantime.
It's very exciting times for Parramatta.
I really can't see it becoming a New York style Bronx in 10 years, but so be it.

Again, you fail to mention/discuss the 50+ storey residential towers, which is what will create the ghetto vibe. Everything else you mention is fine, but my point was that 50+ storey residential towers don't make a place "liveable and vibrant" - like you are almost saying, it's all the other things that make Parra's growth exciting, in spite of these developer greed tower shanties that will be built by reputable development companies like... um... yeah?

Trolls will be trolls.

It's not trolling to have an alternate opinion.

If I was trolling, I would have led with a statement that the new ghetto would be just perfect for the RBB if it's still around etc....

 

[Suitman]

Well, it seems quite clear that it's only the 50+ storey towers that is going to turn Parramatta into a ghetto. Nothing else. Amazing thought really. It must mean that all cities that have introduced this type of condensed living have also turned into ghettos because it is being portrayed that it is fact. Except for a small pocket of one Asian capital apparantly.

I'm excited because Parramatta has been a f**king dive of a place for far too long. It's already a ghetto, and has been for decades, and Gronk was right. Westfield killed the rest of the commercial district. Church street died the day Westfield opened. Some fairly poor attempts to revive the CBD failed miserably until Council had the idea to turn the northern end near the river into a food precinct. From that day on, the CBD once again took a hopeful breath, and has continued to do so ever since, as people have flocked to this small part of the city.

Architecturally, I find all these proposals fascinating. I'm in the construction industry so of course I have an interest in architecture. But it doesn't cloud my views on development. My love of architecture also extends to early Greek and Roman, through the Middle Ages and places like Vatican City to Burj Khalifa http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=534013 and the Jeddah Tower http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=525819 to this......http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=440

I couldn't disagree more that the proposed tall developments will turn Parramatta into a ghetto.
I could post dozens of photos of proposed developments for Parramatta here now. I couldn't be bothered tbh. But they show me that it will be a vibrant active city that will boost the local economy beyond comprehension.
I'm not sure that the type of people that could actually afford to live in Parramatta in these skyscrapers are the ghetto type.
Happy to be proven wrong though.

Anyway, next door to Peter Wynns.....

 

[Suitman]

 

[Avenger]

Exactly, which is why it doesn't need 50+ storey residential towers... and no doubt a Baird Special 12mn Curfew once there's that many people living on top of each other and any street violence ensues.

They said the same when they were building New York City. They needed it. Parra needs it.

 

[phantom eel]

Well, it seems quite clear that it's only the 50+ storey towers that is going to turn Parramatta into a ghetto. Nothing else. Amazing thought really. It must mean that all cities that have introduced this type of condensed living have also turned into ghettos because it is being portrayed that it is fact. Except for a small pocket of one Asian capital apparantly.

Some amaxing logic leaps there. You claim I'm saying 50+ towers automatically equal ghetto, and then finish by referencing an exception I provided?

I'm excited by all the other growth that has been happening and will keep happening. just don't think turning Parra into skyscraper central is necessary or going to work well, that's all.

 

[phantom eel]

Para 2 Suity, you claim Parra is already a ghetto? You don't explain how the 50+ towers will change that - I'm saying the influx of people living on top of each other in a small space will make it wirse not better.

Architecturally I too appreciate things from all ages. But I don't admire Blues Point Tower, and I won't admire the types of monstrosity that you've posted a pic example of above.

Not trolling, just a different view point to yours, and no need to get offended.

 

[phantom eel]

I couldn't disagree more that the proposed tall developments will turn Parramatta into a ghetto.
I could post dozens of photos of proposed developments for Parramatta here now. I couldn't be bothered tbh. But they show me that it will be a vibrant active city

The bit I originally disagreed with was your view that 50+ storey residential towers automatically mean a place is vibrant and active. You've said it again here, that these developments "show" you... but without detail as to how big penis-shaped buildings show any of the above claims?

Happy to agree to disagree Suity, I guess everyone is into different things.

 

[Gary Gutful]

You must have something wrong with your wang if it is shaped like that Phantom.

 

[Twizzle]

so is my old school still standing ?

or have they sold it all and pissed off to Westmead ?

 

[Gronk]

so is my old school still standing ?

or have they sold it all and pissed off to Westmead ?

Macquarie Boys ? Looks the same as you left it.

 

[Twizzle]

Marist Bros

 

[Gronk]

Marist Bros

I think they're all in jail mate.

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

They did make a couple of good video games before they got locked up, though.

 

[forward pass]

Macquarie Boys ? Looks the same as you left it.

That is usually what it looked like after period 2!

 

[forward pass]

http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=534013 and the Jeddah Tower http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=525819 to this......http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=440


...

I love skyscrapercity - fantastic forum/website - especially the stadium section. Love it.

 

[Gary Gutful]

I like how Hiney pretends he went to school.

 

[Suitman]

I love skyscrapercity - fantastic forum/website - especially the stadium section. Love it.

Mate, I'm on it all the time. Love it as well.
The Chinese bridges thread is amazing, and so are some of the High Speed Rail threads.
I too spend a fair bit of time on the stadium threads.
Nerdy I know, but oh well.

 

[Kornstar]

Serious? We are just doing what European cities have done for decades, and what we should have done 30 years ago.
We are moving population nearest to transport centres and employment opportunities, and trying to keep our city compact.
f**k the 1/4 acre block. That should of gone out 3 decades ago, but our visionaries back then didn't even exist.

Now they just need more businesses to abandon the city and have offices in Parra, as I agree with you. People are forced to live further west due to house prices and the further you move out the more travel time to the city just creates more frustration!

Baird was supposed to move government offices out to Parra but that hasn't happened, I work in the biggest state government employer and there are no plans to move anymore people out there other than the very small office that has been in Parra for years.

Businesses are reluctant to relocate west because they feel they lose prestige of being in the big city. Commonwealth Bank have abandoned Homebush for Eveleigh.......just as an example.

 

[The EELiminator]

The govt relocating the Powerhouse Museum (see picture below) into the riverside precent area also suggest they have confidence in Parramatta not becoming a ghetto in 10 years.

the only reason for relocating the powerhouse museum is so they can develop the prime harbourside location it is currently sitting on

they don't give a stuff if parra becomes a ghetto or not as long as they are making $$$$$$$

 

[Gronk]

The re-invigoration of Parra ties in with Mrs Turnbull's 30 minute city concept.

Sydney population growth necessitates three '30-minute cities', Lucy Turnbull says
By Justine Kearney
Updated 20 Oct 2016, 11:31am


Sydney cities to have 'unique identities'
Ms Turnbull said each of the three cities would have its own unique identity.

"What's so fantastic about Sydney is that there are so many different parts," she said.

"It's like a very rich mosaic, and we need to respect and understand the subtlety of that mosaic [while] at the same time supporting the creation of new services and larger services to support population."

Ms Turnbull said if planned correctly, the three cities would become "30-minute cities".

"So that people are 30 minutes from either work, school, university or whatever they like to get up to in their recreational time, so that the 30-minute city is achievable across a much wider part of metropolitan Sydney," she said.

"This makes our city more liveable, productive and sustainable for everyone."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-...y-must-become-three-cities-for-growth/7948254

Turnbull on Wednesday argued three cities -- Eastern Sydney Harbour, Central Parramatta River City and a Western City around the new airport at Badgerys Creek -- would be part of a "reimagining" of greater Sydney, with the population expected to grow to eight million by 2056.

Such an expansion could make it "irrefutably logical" to move Parliament from the city's east to a new central city within seven years and, if properly planned, the three cities would provide a short commute to residents' preferred school or job, the former lord mayor said.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/10/20/turnbull-proposes-three-30-minute-cities-for-sydney/