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Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

84 Baby

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Yeah I think Gary needs to be thrown in a whole for that insult

#eheveniwasntsureonthatone

Edit - Wholly shit Gary thought of the same pun at the same time
 

bartman

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A local evening-styled business closing after 30 years, citing fears of Parramatta's overdevelopment...

Oops, I thought all of these 50+ storey residential towers were going to make the nighttime economy go gangbusters...?

#ghetto

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...n/news-story/6f123095eb342080be5cd9c1f99f5e7f

City Extra Parramatta closes after 30 years in operation
6f123095eb342080be5cd9c1f99f5e7f

Tony Bosworth, Parramatta Advertiser
January 30, 2017 3:12pm

PROSTITUTES, politicians, nightclub and brothel owners, rugby players and colourful local identities — you could find them all at Church Street’s 24-hour City Extra any time of the day and night.

“It was a real melting pot. You’d find everyone there,” said Steven Duff, who opened Parramatta’s only 24-hour eaterie in 1987, three years ahead of his similar and hugely successful restaurant in Sydney’s Circular Quay.

“Between 10pm and 4am we were busiest and it was a lot of fun.”

But sadly the party has come to an end thanks to falling revenue and high-rise development plans.

“We have been here 30 years and it’s very emotional to be closing and leaving,” Mr Duff said.

“Thirty years is quite a time to be running the place.”

The iconic venue is shuttered, its windows blacked out, and Mr Duff is concentrating instead on his other City Extra branch.

He may well expand again in the city rather than Parramatta...

The final nail in the coffin for City Extra was news Church St’s building regulations are increasingly allowing up to 40-storey developments.

The rezoning is likely to change the face of the iconic street forever.


“Four or five years ago the developers who did Darling Harbour came along and wanted to redevelop the whole strip but one building was owned by Westfield and they wouldn’t sell,” Mr Duff said.

“Most left though and we were the only ones who remained. It was all empty. It went through five or six years as a real no-man’s land.
 

emjaycee

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A local evening-styled business closing after 30 years, citing fears of Parramatta's overdevelopment...

Oops, I thought all of these 50+ storey residential towers were going to make the nighttime economy go gangbusters...?

#ghetto

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...n/news-story/6f123095eb342080be5cd9c1f99f5e7f

I call bullshit on part of that quoted article.

“Most left though and we were the only ones who remained. It was all empty. It went through five or six years as a real no-man’s land."

I used to live in Nth Parra back in 2000/01 and used to eat at a heap of restaurants that are still there and trading.
- Mediterranean Kitchen
- Ray and Lou's
- El Phonecian
- Liana's
- City Extra
- Sicilian
- Sabatini's
 

strider

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So the article has nothing to justify that the buildings are a problem ... he only says that the business dropped during the period of construction due to no parking

Why would alot more people be bad for a restaurant? .... probably only if those people dont like what you make, which is quite possible
 

bartman

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Why would alot more people be bad for a restaurant? .... probably only if those people dont like what you make, which is quite possible
Well, if it was such a good thing, surely he would have stayed in business there... or held on and sold it later - unless he too is predicting the (#ghetto) values will go down?

It's ok, lots of people thought Detroit wasn't extending itself and would be ok once upon a time too.
 

strider

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I actually think the high rise demographic is probably different - and the city extra style of food wont be popular

I dont think anglos are really into the highrise thing ... that may change over time as it becomes the only option for many .... and i think city extra catered more towards the whitey tastes
 

Suitman

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Or maybe old mate was just serving up complete grogan pie and no-one wanted to eat there.

Just a thought...

That actually happens to be the case Gary.
That restaurant strip has far better options (dozens) competing with it now than it did 20 years ago. Over the past few years it has frequently been the amongst the least patronised place around the Eat Street precinct on game days. I'm not surprised it's going. And, compared to a lot of its competitors, it was overpriced junk with poor service.
 

Gary Gutful

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I actually think the high rise demographic is probably different - and the city extra style of food wont be popular

I dont think anglos are really into the highrise thing ... that may change over time as it becomes the only option for many .... and i think city extra catered more towards the whitey tastes
Plus they sound like a Newspaper rather than a restaurant.

New developments will no doubt bring change. I'm sure it will be replaced with something more modern and aligned with the changing demographic....or it could be sign of an impending ghetto :oops:
 

84 Baby

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I actually think the high rise demographic is probably different - and the city extra style of food wont be popular

I dont think anglos are really into the highrise thing ... that may change over time as it becomes the only option for many .... and i think city extra catered more towards the whitey tastes
Kill Whitey

I don't think City Extra catered to the whitey tastes, more the no tastes
 

Suitman

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I actually think the high rise demographic is probably different - and the city extra style of food wont be popular

I dont think anglos are really into the highrise thing ... that may change over time as it becomes the only option for many .... and i think city extra catered more towards the whitey tastes

Demographically, Parramatta is a very different place now to what it was 20 years ago. That's a valid point.
As I said earlier, the other multi cultural restaurants do far better than City Extra, and have done for some time .
I notice Mr Duff partly blames FALLING revenue, and then goes on to blame the PENDING development of 40 story buildings. So, that's proof that the business was sliding already because none of these towers have been built yet.
It hasn't stopped other restaurants from thriving - even the two either side of City Extra, which are always far busier. I don't see all these other places panicking and packing their suitcases. Neil Perry and Jamie Oliver don't seem too concerned either.
 

Suitman

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Plus they sound like a Newspaper rather than a restaurant.

New developments will no doubt bring change. I'm sure it will be replaced with something more modern and aligned with the changing demographic....or it could be sign of an impending ghetto :oops:

What, like Detroit?
 

Gary Gutful

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I'd say it is exactly like Detroit, except for the fact that Parramatta's rise hasn't coincided with the automobile industry which then moved elsewhere, they haven't lost jobs to outer suburbs, there hasn't been a massive freeway constructed through the middle of the city and they haven't had major riots and simmering racial tensions between African Americans and white people.

Apart from those few minor differences Parramatta is just another Detroit waiting to happen. The impending sense of urban decay is palpable....
 

strider

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Demographically, Parramatta is a very different place now to what it was 20 years ago. That's a valid point.
As I said earlier, the other multi cultural restaurants do far better than City Extra, and have done for some time .
I notice Mr Duff partly blames FALLING revenue, and then goes on to blame the PENDING development of 40 story buildings. So, that's proof that the business was sliding already because none of these towers have been built yet.
It hasn't stopped other restaurants from thriving - even the two either side of City Extra, which are always far busier. I don't see all these other places panicking and packing their suitcases. Neil Perry and Jamie Oliver don't seem too concerned either.
Yeah agree .... maybe their problem is they dont really have a style .... people go to restaurants for a certain type of food now - not just go out for the sake of eating out .... back in the old days when city extra first were popular it was really there or pancakes at parramatta that were the fancy go outand eat options
 

Suitman

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Yeah agree .... maybe their problem is they dont really have a style .... people go to restaurants for a certain type of food now - not just go out for the sake of eating out .... back in the old days when city extra first were popular it was really there or pancakes at parramatta that were the fancy go outand eat options

Maybe Mr Duff could have spruced up the place, changed the menu, and become more relevant to an eating precinct that has left his style behind. Then he needn't have had to blame stuff that hasn't even happened yet.
 

Suitman

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I'd say it is exactly like Detroit, except for the fact that Parramatta's rise hasn't coincided with the automobile industry which then moved elsewhere, they haven't lost jobs to outer suburbs, there hasn't been a massive freeway constructed through the middle of the city and they haven't had major riots and simmering racial tensions between African Americans and white people.

Apart from those few minor differences Parramatta is just another Detroit waiting to happen. The impending sense of urban decay is palpable....

I can see where Bart was coming from now with his Detroit reference.
Thanks Gaz.
 

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