Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

[hindy111]

Can I, in my opinion, correct you and maybe nudge you to see and realise that it is only ludicrous because we are literally being scammed and robbed by our politicians and their powerful friends and masters. Yes I get that in the current climate we are going broke and that 50c or free public transport would only hasten that situation.

But if we all just accept what is going on and just play this game by the rules that they are setting for us then nothing will ever change and it will only get worse as all corruption ALWAYS does and dare I say it, the world your children will inherit will be several orders of magnitude worse.

So that is why I try to always point out that abundance, especially in a country as rich as ours, is more then possible if we demand it and state why and how every time we are discussing these types of things with people. We should never get bogged down in the deflective or complicated spin doctoring narrative the pollies and their stooge front men, who will bog us down in the weeds with absolute lies and misinformation so they can keep raping this country blind to maintain their wealthy and powerful status quo.

Look around mate. How the Hell can we be only getting $2B for a resource that we are the second largest exporter in the world and the country that is 3rd largest is getting $76B per year? That resource alone would pay for a damn lot more then just 50c or even totally free public transport don't you think?

There is no excuse for such lets be kind, incompetence is there? Or could you give a logical and valid excuse for such a failing? Please do, I would love to hear it. I'm not being a smart arse, I just get very frustrated when people say we can't afford this or that and the truth is all around us that we most certainly can and much, much more if we ALL stopped playing silly bugger politics with these fake nice guy politicians and demanded what is rightfully ours.

Shoot, what we should all be getting is an annual dividend of say 1% or 2% of all the royalties from all the resources we are selling to the world. It would be in the thousands I'm sure. That way every citizen in Australia would quickly realise that yes these resources are ours and that we shouldn't be giving them away for what is essentially free. They do this in Alaska and every citizen gets, I can't remember exactly but it is around $1200 a year from just one resource. But with them we are talking miniscule stuff compared to Australia's massive annual export resource ledger.

This country is rich, freakin damn rich but we are not getting anything close to what we are rightfully owed. We need to demand more and the only way to do that is by showing anyone and everyone when they say that we can't do this or can't afford that, that no that is not correct we can and this is why and how. If everyone stopped parroting the the pollies and trans-corporations narrative propaganda and simply pointed out the truth, their lies and disinformation would then quickly melt away and we may start to see some traction in the right direction.

Sorry mate but I just get so very frustrated with statements like that first paragraph in your post. No offence I hope. Rant over. Cheers

We are just plebs Ram. Modern day slaves. People just accept the silly rules the rich hand out to fleece us all. f**king ashols. And there just aren't enough men like us who would fight for our rights. Instead they want to worry about silly little insignificant shit and forget the big picture.
To put it simply.

WE ARE ALL BEING ANALED

 

[Eelogical]

We are just plebs Ram. Modern day slaves. People just accept the silly rules the rich hand out to fleece us all. f**king ashols. And there just aren't enough men like us who would fight for our rights. Instead they want to worry about silly little insignificant shit and forget the big picture.
To put it simply.

WE ARE ALL BEING ANALED

No wonder we all like Sussex Inlet and Yamba.

 

[Suitman]

Can I, in my opinion, correct you and maybe nudge you to see and realise that it is only ludicrous because we are literally being scammed and robbed by our politicians and their powerful friends and masters. Yes I get that in the current climate we are going broke and that 50c or free public transport would only hasten that situation.

But if we all just accept what is going on and just play this game by the rules that they are setting for us then nothing will ever change and it will only get worse as all corruption ALWAYS does and dare I say it, the world your children will inherit will be several orders of magnitude worse.

So that is why I try to always point out that abundance, especially in a country as rich as ours, is more then possible if we demand it and state why and how every time we are discussing these types of things with people. We should never get bogged down in the deflective or complicated spin doctoring narrative the pollies and their stooge front men, who will bog us down in the weeds with absolute lies and misinformation so they can keep raping this country blind to maintain their wealthy and powerful status quo.

Look around mate. How the Hell can we be only getting $2B for a resource that we are the second largest exporter in the world and the country that is 3rd largest is getting $76B per year? That resource alone would pay for a damn lot more then just 50c or even totally free public transport don't you think?

There is no excuse for such lets be kind, incompetence is there? Or could you give a logical and valid excuse for such a failing? Please do, I would love to hear it. I'm not being a smart arse, I just get very frustrated when people say we can't afford this or that and the truth is all around us that we most certainly can and much, much more if we ALL stopped playing silly bugger politics with these fake nice guy politicians and demanded what is rightfully ours.

Shoot, what we should all be getting is an annual dividend of say 1% or 2% of all the royalties from all the resources we are selling to the world. It would be in the thousands I'm sure. That way every citizen in Australia would quickly realise that yes these resources are ours and that we shouldn't be giving them away for what is essentially free. They do this in Alaska and every citizen gets, I can't remember exactly but it is around $1200 a year from just one resource. But with them we are talking miniscule stuff compared to Australia's massive annual export resource ledger.

This country is rich, freakin damn rich but we are not getting anything close to what we are rightfully owed. We need to demand more and the only way to do that is by showing anyone and everyone when they say that we can't do this or can't afford that, that no that is not correct we can and this is why and how. If everyone stopped parroting the the pollies and trans-corporations narrative propaganda and simply pointed out the truth, their lies and disinformation would then quickly melt away and we may start to see some traction in the right direction.

Sorry mate but I just get so very frustrated with statements like that first paragraph in your post. No offence I hope. Rant over. Cheers

No offence at all mate.
You are entitled to your opinion.
The best thing about the majority of your posts is that you don't make them personal. Unlike the following one.

 

[Suitman]

Who's panicking?
Once again, I was just stating facts. And, once again you need to post a reply trying to belittle me.
Keep taking sly digs at me Bart and keep targeting me if it floats your boat and if that is how you get your rocks off.
It won't be long before you'll be searching for another log in name.

 

[the phantom menace]

Who's panicking?

You seem to be worried that it's not all sorted, just because there are some negotiations still to occur.

Once again, I was just stating facts. And, once again you need to post a reply trying to belittle me.

Belittling you... how exactly? You seem to personalise things more than is merited - a post suggesting union campaigns are nothing to worry about is as much "stating facts" as any opinions you've shared, and is hardly targeting you personally...

Keep taking sly digs at me Bart and keep targeting me if it floats your boat and if that is how you get your rocks off.

Oh dear. Over-reaction to a cartoon gif much?

It won't be long before you'll be searching for another log in name.

Is that some sort of personal threat....? Imagine if we all over-reacted on here in the same way .

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You seem to be worried that it's not all sorted, just because there are some negotiations still to occur.

Belittling you... how exactly? You seem to personalise things more than is merited - a post suggesting union campaigns are nothing to worry about is as much "stating facts" as any opinions you've shared, and is hardly targeting you personally...

Oh dear. Over-reaction to a cartoon gif much?

Is that some sort of personal threat....? Imagine if we all over-reacted on here in the same way .

 

[the phantom menace]

Looks like they're kind of admitting some sort of oopsie occurred in the M6 tunnelling process... but so long as they learn from it for any future tunnelling plans, I guess?

Drivers should be using this Sydney motorway about now. It’s on track to be three years late

A giant sinkhole above the M6 has had major consequences for the cost and completion of the multibillion-dollar underground motorway that will link to WestConnex.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Gronk]

When in Stage 1 opening FFS.

 

[Gronk]

Maybe re-think your stadium cladding game in Florida.

 

[Gronk]

Woah

 

[Eelogical]

It's progressing nicely.

 

[Gronk]

It's progressing nicely.

They also did this.

First plane lands at Australia's new international airport

An aircraft landed on the tarmac, successfully completing a series of test runs ahead of the introduction of larger passenger planes scheduled to begin using the runway two years from now.

www.google.com

 

[Chipmunk]

I'm still curious to know what the initial strategy is with the operation of 2 airports in Sydney. Sure I can see value for freight, which is what Avalon in Melbourne has virtually been, but will there be significant passenger demand for both for at least the next 20 years. Greater Melbourne probably has the same population as Greater Sydney, but Avalon has hardly any use.

If you take a look at all other cities with 2 international airports, the population base is significantly larger than the Greater Sydney area, in most cases larger than the entire population of Australia.

 

[the phantom menace]

I think an unspoken strategy may be to reduce the aircraft noise/hours over the eastern and southern suburbs, to increase property values in those traditional well-heeled areas typically held by a certain generation/s - at the expense of those in greater western sydney suburbs.

As the Oils used to sing: the rich get richer, the poor get the picture...

 

[Chipmunk]

I think an unspoken strategy may be to reduce the aircraft noise/hours over the eastern and southern suburbs, to increase property values in those traditional well-heeled areas typically held by a certain generation/s - at the expense of those in greater western sydney suburbs.

As the Oils used to sing: the rich get richer, the poor get the picture...

That's all very well, but Sydney Airport doesn't plan to have less flights than they currently do either.

 

[Suitman]

I'm still curious to know what the initial strategy is with the operation of 2 airports in Sydney. Sure I can see value for freight, which is what Avalon in Melbourne has virtually been, but will there be significant passenger demand for both for at least the next 20 years. Greater Melbourne probably has the same population as Greater Sydney, but Avalon has hardly any use.

If you take a look at all other cities with 2 international airports, the population base is significantly larger than the Greater Sydney area, in most cases larger than the entire population of Australia.

Initially, the passenger demand will be light, but ok.
We have not yet seen flight schedules, but we already know of 3 airlines that have committed to operating out of WSA including the international carrier Singapore Airlines. Qantas and Virgin have also signed up to fly domestically and internationally.

The freight will be the big money spinner initially as WSA does not have a flight curfew (which inhibits SYD) and many of the large distribution centers for international freight are located nearby the new airport. Not only that, but road transport links are also excellent to the new airport with the addition of the new M12 motorway.
It must not be forgotten that WSA will have a metro connection to the SR system which will make it more readily accessible by public transport for the 2 million people who live in Western Sydney. There is however a few metro links that need to be infilled, such as Tallawong to Schofields, Schofields to St Mary's and also Bradfield to Macarthur or Leppington, or both.

Also, don't forget that there is so much development planned around the airport. Commercial, Industrial, Technology and Residential.

For once, the infrastructure is being put in place before the hoards arrive.
Yes, it will take time. Maybe or even probably around the 20 year time frame you mentioned. But, it WILL happen.

 

[Gronk]

I think an unspoken strategy may be to reduce the aircraft noise/hours over the eastern and southern suburbs, to increase property values in those traditional well-heeled areas typically held by a certain generation/s - at the expense of those in greater western sydney suburbs.

As the Oils used to sing: the rich get richer, the poor get the picture...

Note sure if that is the motivation TBH.

That's all very well, but Sydney Airport doesn't plan to have less flights than they currently do either.

Exactly.

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The blurb I found some time ago, centres around 24/7 cargo hub and taking the pressure off Kingsford Smith, which is at capacity.

I was until recently super pissed that the public transport links to the Fancy Bird Airport were garbarge, until I realised that domestic and international travel for punters is not its core business. Makes sense why they are not rushing into metro-at-the-door now.

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Unlike Sydney’s main airport, Western Sydney International will operate 24/7, which is particularly beneficial for both freight and passenger services that need flexibility in scheduling.

While freight is a core function, Western Sydney International is designed to handle domestic and international passenger traffic, relieve congestion from Sydney’s main airport, and stimulate economic growth in the region through its role as an aerotropolis. It’s being built to accommodate future travel needs and support the growth of the Sydney metropolitan area.

 

[Suitman]

That's all very well, but Sydney Airport doesn't plan to have less flights than they currently do either.

That's true. Sydney AP has capacity for more flights, and they will take what they can get but SYD capacity will run out eventually. It is why we have been talking about a 2nd Sydney AP since the 70's. That's f**king 50 years ago.
Finally we got govt's that had the balls to do something about the inevitable demand for a 2nd AP.
Not only the AP, but all the supporting infrastructure to ensure it is viable.

 

[Suitman]

Note sure if that is the motivation TBH.

Of course it isn't.
That is just Bart being Bart.

 

[Chipmunk]

I'm curious on the international passenger flights. Obviously not a lot of tourists coming to Australia to visit Western Sydney. Although having said that, the majority of passengers in and out of Australian international flights are in fact....Australians.