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Parramatta Stadium Rebuild and other stuff

Suitman

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I live near Moonee Valley.

Not sure whether this is an option for Rose Hill, but shows that housing developments and racing venues can coexist.


That short video shows us what? I get where you are suggesting though.
 
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Christchurch is my choice for the 20th team.
It creates a NZ derby. They have a new roofed stadium coming on board with a 30 k + capacity.
NZ RU is struggling. We steal their players with the money we have to offer.

Their new stadium is .... impressive.

Agree with 2nd NZ team based on the south island (Christchurch) as a sensible next cab off the rank for 20 teams. Just hope that new stadium is earthquake proof.
 

King-Gutho94

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Christchurch is my choice for the 20th team.
It creates a NZ derby. They have a new roofed stadium coming on board with a 30 k + capacity.
NZ RU is struggling. We steal their players with the money we have to offer.

Their new stadium is .... impressive.

That ground is one of the options we are looking at for our 12th home game next year.

And if it eventuates we won't be playing Wahs.

As i believe we will be looking at being a part of double header to obivously showcase the new ground
 

Gary Gutful

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That short video shows us what? I get where you are suggesting though.
Its a link to a website rather than a video.

The website shows how an underdeveloped piece of land within 6km of the CBD of Australia's soon to be largest city is being transformed over a 20 year period into a valuable new urban precinct that honours its legacy and allows multiple co-existing land uses to flourish.

But apart from that it doesn't show much.
 

Gary Gutful

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File this under 'other stuff' and let me know if its off-topic as I don't want to clog up this thread.

Article today on news.com.au about the challenges that Melbourne faces:

# 9 Million people by 2050 (currently at 5.5 Million)
# NIMBY
# Local Councils resistant to high rise developments
# State taking over planning controls
# State struggling to deliver supporting road and rail.

Not sure it is sustainable to grow this quickly.

 

Gary Gutful

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I did like the comment in the article about how it will create 'slums' which was an inaccurate criticism of Parramatta 10 years ago given what has transpired.
 

Gronk

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File this under 'other stuff' and let me know if its off-topic as I don't want to clog up this thread.

Article today on news.com.au about the challenges that Melbourne faces:

# 9 Million people by 2050 (currently at 5.5 Million)
# NIMBY
# Local Councils resistant to high rise developments
# State taking over planning controls
# State struggling to deliver supporting road and rail.

Not sure it is sustainable to grow this quickly.

So it’s the same as NSW. The Minister has oversight over planning and we have State Significant Developments which takes approvals away from councils.

This is not the politics thread, but take what you read in the Murdoch press with a grain of salt re: Victoria, as they have a ongoing jihad against every successive labor government.

As for failure to deliver projects, it is pretty clear that successive LNP federal governments roadblocked or filibustered when it came to critical Vic projects like Metro Tunnel, Airport Rail Link and Suburban Rail Link. It’s not hard to compare the funding rails-run that NSW received for Westconnex, Sydney Metro etc vs the um-er f**kery that went on with Victoria.

Yeah, funny how things changed post 2022.
 

Gary Gutful

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So it’s the same as NSW. The Minister has oversight over planning and we have State Significant Developments which takes approvals away from councils.

This is not the politics thread, but take what you read in the Murdoch press with a grain of salt re: Victoria, as they have a ongoing jihad against every successive labor government.

As for failure to deliver projects, it is pretty clear that successive LNP federal governments roadblocked or filibustered when it came to critical Vic projects like Metro Tunnel, Airport Rail Link and Suburban Rail Link. It’s not hard to compare the funding rails-run that NSW received for Westconnex, Sydney Metro etc vs the um-er f**kery that went on with Victoria.

Yeah, funny how things changed post 2022.
You could definitely file the article under their 'immigration is bad' campaign...

Didn't want to get political. Was just interested in the planning and infrastructure delivery challenges that they have.
 

Gary Gutful

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But what is its actualy growth rate like ?

I lived there for a while and Victoria's greatest export was Victorians, I couldn't stand the weather any longer so I left.
Nearly 20% in the last 10 years and predicted to be another 64% between now and 2050. Growing at a much faster rate than Sydney.
 

Suitman

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File this under 'other stuff' and let me know if its off-topic as I don't want to clog up this thread.

Article today on news.com.au about the challenges that Melbourne faces:

# 9 Million people by 2050 (currently at 5.5 Million)
# NIMBY
# Local Councils resistant to high rise developments
# State taking over planning controls
# State struggling to deliver supporting road and rail.

Not sure it is sustainable to grow this quickly.


This is the right thread for it for sure and you make a valid point.
Melbourne's population is forecast to be larger than Sydney's by 2030.

What I see that they are doing wrong is not prioritizing building up, rather than out, other than in the CBD.
The further the urban sprawl, the more infrastructure is required.
Sydney is somewhat limiting its urban sprawl and creating many high-rise clusters which provides housing quickly and uses existing infrastructure. A far more sensible approach imo.
 

Gary Gutful

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This is the right thread for it for sure and you make a valid point.
Melbourne's population is forecast to be larger than Sydney's by 2030.

What I see that they are doing wrong is not prioritizing building up, rather than out, other than in the CBD.
The further the urban sprawl, the more infrastructure is required.
Sydney is somewhat limiting its urban sprawl and creating many high-rise clusters which provides housing quickly and uses existing infrastructure. A far more sensible approach imo.
Agreed. They’ve turned their attention to infill development in recent times, but only after creating massive sprawl. That creates flow challenges for roads, shops, health care and public transport which they well behind Sydney on.
 
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SMH.com.au said:

How are Sydney’s ‘brand-new, shiny’ metro stations holding up? Not so well​

Penry Buckley

ByPenry Buckley

June 11, 2025 — 5.00am
At Epping metro station, drips fall from the ceiling. Inside a cordoned-off area, a yellow cleaning bucket, two smaller buckets and a plastic storage crate are working overtime. Nearby, buckets deal with additional leaks.
If you’re wondering how Sydney’s 2024 metro stations could look in a few years, Epping offers a clue. The underground station opened in 2009 before being upgraded for the North West Metro line, reopening in May 2019. Six years later, it has seen better days. Its glass escalator panels are scratched and grimy, its once-white canopy grey and stained.
A commuter walks past buckets collecting dripping water at Epping metro station.

A commuter walks past buckets collecting dripping water at Epping metro station.Credit:Kate Geraghty
No wonder: higher-than-expected numbers are switching from double-deck trains to metro services at Epping. Since the city extension opened in August 2024, the metro has become wildly popular – more than 80 per cent full on average between 8am and 9am – raising concerns about the 19,000 extra rush hour passengers between Bankstown and Central expected when the extension opens. Metro passengers have not escaped delays that have hampered the rail network.
Many have praised the new stations’ dazzling fitouts – NSW Premier Chris Minns has commended the former Coalition government’s investment in “brand-new, shiny, underground rapid transit”.

Ten months down the line, the sheen has started to come off. The Herald visited eight stations over two days, finding maintenance issues at almost every one. Work is also under way to install digital advertising screens, the latest visual clutter since plastic signage took over a rejuvenated Central Station before the metro opening.
Beyond the cracked and gum-marked tiles, grime-smeared walls and a sea of yellow plastic temporary dividers, out-of-order bathrooms were especially common.

In Central Station, all six metro bathrooms have been out of order for several months. The platform lift was also recently under maintenance.
Opal gates were also frequently out of order, including at Barangaroo, Victoria Cross and Crows Nest. On the platform at Martin Place, the glass-reinforced concrete walls from Macquarie Group’s $378 million fitout are stained from use by travellers. At Waterloo, the new station with the lowest average patronage, there were no noticeable maintenance issues.

The signage situation at Central Station.

Reporter
On the more modest older section of the line, delivered under budget in 2019, leaks were a problem, with buckets catching drips at stations between Chatswood and Epping on a wet Sydney Monday.
In a statement, a spokesperson for Sydney Metro said maintenance was “a crucial part of keeping the M1 Line safe and running”, but the operator was investigating if further rectification work was required for bathrooms.
A spokesperson for Transport for NSW said that since the new metro stations opened, Opal gate failures had not exceeded “expected average faults”.
Asked about the use of buckets, Sydney Metro said there was a remedial works program to fix leaks as they are identified at older stations on the Epping to Chatswood line.

Is it me or are these people never happy with any public transport?
 

Delboy

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It isn't the transport though, it is the disgustingly dirty stations. Epping hasn't been properly cleaned since 2019.
Well, I took the Metro to Castle Hill and the both of used the bathroom, very clean and functional , as was Rouse Hill. Have never had an issue with the Metro
 

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