Parramatta to NOT move Dragons blockbuster to Homebush

[Brutus]

Doubt that. And doubt that there would have been 50k their either.

BTW, where are all the "30k lockoout" people? Quiet aren't they!

Right game at the right venue, as was the Kogarah semi last year.

Well if they were the right games, right venue, it doesn't say much for Sydney then does it.

I suppose Kogarah for a prelim final would suit you too. The crowd would still be below capacity at that ground.

 

[Mark Rudd]

What a sh*t crowd from parra.


Kick em out. Sh*t crowd. Sh*t club.

 

[Loudstrat]

Well if they were the right games, right venue, it doesn't say much for Sydney then does it.

I suppose Kogarah for a prelim final would suit you too. The crowd would still be below capacity at that ground.

WSo your solution to the NRL's problems is to kick out everyone bar Brisbane is it?

FFS - how anyone could winge about Friday night for a season opener is utterly beyond me. Funny, the same that thought 8k at Adelaide last year was amazing.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Doubt that. And doubt that there would have been 50k their either.

BTW, where are all the "30k lockoout" people? Quiet aren't they!

Right game at the right venue, as was the Kogarah semi last year.

Why do you doubt that? I for one can not bare sitting behind the goal posts. I love being in the stands because I get to see tactical plays unfold, I dont get that same satisfaction from behind the posts.

I sit in the Thornett Stand at the moment, but to be honest, most people up there are a bit posh. If I had of bought my season tickets and not someone else, I would be down in the terrace below the Thornett Grand Stand and with the real people. (I avoid the Cronin side because of the sun)

At Parra, seats on about the 30 meter line in the terrace seems to be the best seats in the house.

 

[ozjet1]

Moving Sydney games which expect more than 20k crowds to Homebush turns these matches into neutral affairs. Fair enough if the club in possession of the home match wants to move it...........it's their perogative if they want to chase the dollars over the home ground advantage - let's cut the feelgood crap re allowing an extra 30k to watch the game, the main reason is the $$$$. but i'd hate the day when the NRL take it upon themselves and sacrifice the integrity of the regular season by scheduling/moving Sydney matches to larger venues.

 

[Brutus]

Funny, the same that thought 8k at Adelaide last year was amazing.

And how is the profile of RL going in Adelaide going?

It's non-existent.

Next.

 

[Willow]

Yeah I spose so. Consider some Dragons fans were whingeing so much about it so much about it not being played at ANZ and they missed out on tickets, it's a bit contradictory since there'd have been 2000 or so spare.

How many Saints fans were making this demand?

Might have to take off your blinkers for just a sec Eels Dude.

You're getting mixed up with last year, and Parra fans demanding that the Kogarah match be moved. You can't have it both ways.

Back then, the real villains here are certain sections of the media. This is another beat up, but nowhere the same level of pressure.

But you believe whatever you want.

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Crowd: 18293

Further proof that plucking figures out the air like 30,000+ to try and justify a change of venue is completely without foundation. People just don't know, and even when the evidence is in front of them, they still say it isn't so.

This was always a decision for the Parramatta club to sort through, just as last year was the decision of the St George club.

Bottom line is that 18,000 is a top opening crowd for Parramatta Stadium. If they can average that all year, it would a great result.

 

[Eels Dude]

How many Saints fans were making this demand?

Might have to take off your blinkers for just a sec Eels Dude.

You're getting mixed up with last year, and Parra fans demanding that the Kogarah match be moved. You can't have it both ways.

Back then, the real villains here are certain sections of the media. This is another beat up, but nowhere the same level of pressure.

But you believe whatever you want.

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Crowd: 18293

Further proof that plucking figures out the air like 30,000+ to try and justify a change of venue is completely without foundation. People just don't know, and even when the evidence is in front of them, they still say it isn't so.

This was always a decision for the Parramatta club to sort through, just as last year was the decision of the St George club.

Bottom line is that 18,000 is a top opening crowd for Parramatta Stadium. If they can average that all year, it would a great result.

There were a lot of Saints fans in this forum, and replying to other articles and blogs stating it was hypocritical of Paul Osborne to state the game was going to be moved, but then back out through no fault of his own. He was stupid for his premature announcement and should have known better. But I commend him for having the game of rugby league and fans of both clubs as his priority. I do believe Saints fan were over critical of him due to a decision not made by him.

You're right though, the media has a large part to play through their own mindgames between both clubs.

 

[Loudstrat]

Why do you doubt that? I for one can not bare sitting behind the goal posts. I love being in the stands because I get to see tactical plays unfold, I dont get that same satisfaction from behind the posts.

I sit in the Thornett Stand at the moment, but to be honest, most people up there are a bit posh. If I had of bought my season tickets and not someone else, I would be down in the terrace below the Thornett Grand Stand and with the real people. (I avoid the Cronin side because of the sun)

At Parra, seats on about the 30 meter line in the terrace seems to be the best seats in the house.

Sounds like you are pretty fussy. If I had a choice - sit behind a goal line or sit outside the ground - I'd be behind the goal line.

Your choice -but not everyone will only choose a 3000 odd section of seats and reject the other 15000.

How many Saints fans were making this demand?

Might have to take off your blinkers for just a sec Eels Dude.

You're getting mixed up with last year, and Parra fans demanding that the Kogarah match be moved. You can't have it both ways.

Back then, the real villains here are certain sections of the media. This is another beat up, but nowhere the same level of pressure.

But you believe whatever you want.

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Crowd: 18293

Further proof that plucking figures out the air like 30,000+ to try and justify a change of venue is completely without foundation. People just don't know, and even when the evidence is in front of them, they still say it isn't so.

This was always a decision for the Parramatta club to sort through, just as last year was the decision of the St George club.

I'm with Dragons fans who supported the Kogarah decision. No other club gets forced to move grounds just because of tossers in the media.

Bottom line is that 18,000 is a top opening crowd for Parramatta Stadium. If they can average that all year, it would a great result.

Anyone who can whinge about 18k opening crowd is either an AFL troll, a chronic whinger who's also whinge at the price of a postage stamp, or barking mad and should be shot.

Fair dinkum League fans are pleased. If they are not pleased, they are not fair dinkum.

 

[Willow]

There were a lot of Saints fans in this forum, and replying to other articles and blogs stating it was hypocritical of Paul Osborne to state the game was going to be moved, but then back out through no fault of his own.

Are you serious?

That has nothing to do wanting it to be played at Homebush.

As I said, take off the blinkers. Failing that, believe whatever you want.

He was stupid for his premature announcement and should have known better. But I commend him for having the game of rugby league and fans of both clubs as his priority. I do believe Saints fan were over critical of him due to a decision not made by him.

It has nothing to with Saints fans. Make the leap.

The vast majority didn't give a stuff.

Osbourne wasn't stupid. Just having a go like most. At worst, he didn't think it through. But so what? The sky hasn't fallen in.

I do believe Saints fan were over critical of him due to a decision not made by him.

And I do believe you just contradicted yourself.

You're right though, the media has a large part to play through their own mindgames between both clubs.

But people keep getting sucked in.

 

[Eels Dude]

Are you serious?

That has nothing to do wanting it to be played at Homebush.

As I said, take off the blinkers. Failing that, believe whatever you want.

It has nothing to with Saints fans. Make the leap.

The vast majority didn't give a stuff.

Osbourne wasn't stupid. Just having a go like most. At worst, he didn't think it through. But so what? The sky hasn't fallen in.

And I do believe you just contradicted yourself.

But people keep getting sucked in.

I'm not really interested in these kind of arguments... good luck for the remainder of the season.

 

[Willow]

lol. It's an argument? OK.

Maintain the rage Eels Dude.

 

[Teddyboy]

NBA has what 5 games per week for a team (for 30 teams) with 20,000 attendance?
NFL has 1 game per week (for 32 teams) at grounds catering for anywhere between 80,000 and 120,000.

Their population is approximately 15 times the size of ours. If you do the math with their competitive sports attendance factoring in NHL, NFL, NBA, MLB, NCAA basketball and grid-iron.... They come out well ahead per capita than what we do in terms of attendance for live sports, in fact they completely demolish us. They get crowds of 80,000+ attending college football games.

Their population size has little to do with it, they have far greater attendance to sports than we do in general.

What the NRL doesn't get is by moving games they don't create demand, they lessen it. For a one-off cash grab they cheapen the game. We need bigger suburban grounds without a doubt, but every time a game looks like it may sell out you don't annoy the ticket buyers by shifting the venue.

Americans are brainwashed to think nothing happens outside there country and even heard New Yorkers don't think there is a world outside New York ?.For America just because it's bigger doesn't mean that it's better e.g.look at how many movie channels there are on pay tv and you always find out of say 16 movie channels 14 are taken up my american movies...if you know what i mean.

I think the brits are bigger supporters then the yanks when you see how many Soccer leagues there are in England and even the Irish with the 4 codes of GAA,Rugby and Soccer are big supporters in a small island.

 

[Loudstrat]

Fiery Dragon should also make a comparison with sports attendences in Angola, Uzbekistan, The Galapagos Islands and Chad. All are as relevent to the NRL as gridiron.

Besides, I doubt Ozzy would have changed the venue because of viewing habits in Cincinatti ffs.

 

[Brutus]

Bottom line is that 18,000 is a top opening crowd for Parramatta Stadium. If they can average that all year, it would a great result.

Well they aint gunna Willow because the Dragons match was one of their top drawing games. Ironically, you'll be hoping for big crowds at the Eels' two ANZ Stadium games this year to bump the average up because the Parra Stadium games sure as hell won't.

Be very interesting to see the crowd for the Eels v Bulldogs at ANZ stadium if both sides are going well at the time.

Any predictions? Remembering they got a terrific Saturday evening (5.30pm) crowd (31,664 to be exact) last year for that game and Parra were going like bustards at the time.

 

[Firey_Dragon]

Fiery Dragon should also make a comparison with sports attendences in Angola, Uzbekistan, The Galapagos Islands and Chad. All are as relevent to the NRL as gridiron.

Besides, I doubt Ozzy would have changed the venue because of viewing habits in Cincinatti ffs.

How isn't it relevant, all I said is Australia has poorer live sport attendance mentalities than the US when someone contested the population size had something to do with it. I think you'll find I was arguing for keeping the game AT PARRAMATTA. My comments were in response to someone replying to my throw-away comment "I'd love to see some aussies try and live in the US and try to live week to week without whinging if they wanted to attend an NBA or NFL game. Heaven forbid they'd have to purchase a ticket months in advance."

NRL looks too good on TV thats it's problem. I quite often find myself at the games, only to head home and watch the replay to catch any of the action I missed. Especially at Parramatta stadium, is there any worse ground in the NRL in regards to it's positioning of it's big screen?

In saying that 18k was a good opening crowd, and I'm glad they didn't move the game.

 

[Loudstrat]

Fair enough Fiery

Well they aint gunna Willow because the Dragons match was one of their top drawing games. Ironically, you'll be hoping for big crowds at the Eels' two ANZ Stadium games this year to bump the average up because the Parra Stadium games sure as hell won't.

Be very interesting to see the crowd for the Eels v Bulldogs at ANZ stadium if both sides are going well at the time.

Any predictions? Remembering they got a terrific Saturday evening (5.30pm) crowd (31,664 to be exact) last year for that game and Parra were going like bustards at the time.

Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that your favourite tabloid was proclaiming a sellout 2 weeks before the event. And you believed that there were 30 000 people wandering home from Ticketek disappointed that they couldn't go :lol:

That Tele crap, and the knobjockeys that repeated it ad nauseum on internet whinges would have turned many away. And now 18k isnt good enough? Yet 8k in Adelaide means we have to immediately relocate a Sydney side?

You lost sunshine. Deal with it!

 

[Brutus]

Parramatta Stadium is the problem.

Nice view, but too often we've heard the word "sell-out, sell-out" only to be bitterly disappointed.

An in-form Parra side need to ditch that joint for the big games if they want to grow.

18k for a season opener after the year they and the Dragons just had = :lol::lol::lol:

Roosters and Souths a couple of years ago attracted 30k with less hype for the Friday night season opener. In fact, the Roosters (wooden spooners) and Souths attracted 5k more than the Parra game just last Sunday. Yes...that's right the Roosters (from the east) and Souths (from the inner/south) at homebush

Little dick Parra and its once mighty stadium:lol:

 

[Loudstrat]

Hype? The only hype came from the Tele and tools like you saying for two weeks -DO NOT GO TO THIS GAME BECAUSE THERE WONT BE ANY SEATS LEFT.

So where did the other 30k go genius?

Everyone else seems to think that 18k is an acceptable;e crowd for a season opener. Remember, you let loose much sperm over the 8k crowd at Adelaide last year, telling everyone that it was proof an NRL team had to move there. Now you are bagging 18k?

Go back to your Yawnion crowds at TG Milner. Or move to Adelaide. Or wherever they put old trolls and their chronic incontinence.

 

[$$Poor Boy Blues$$]

Hype? The only hype came from the Tele and tools like you saying for two weeks -DO NOT GO TO THIS GAME BECAUSE THERE WONT BE ANY SEATS LEFT.

So where did the other 30k go genius?

Everyone else seems to think that 18k is an acceptable;e crowd for a season opener. Remember, you let loose much sperm over the 8k crowd at Adelaide last year, telling everyone that it was proof an NRL team had to move there. Now you are bagging 18k?

Go back to your Yawnion crowds at TG Milner. Or move to Adelaide. Or wherever they put old trolls and their chronic incontinence.

your main effort there was to bag him out but the world is different shades of grey...

does the hate eat you so much?