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Parra's next coach?

Who should be Parramatta's next coach?


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The Colonel

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Stephen Kearney's exit at Eels looks sooner rather than later
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It seems likely that Parramatta will part ways with coach Stephen Kearney in the near future. Picture: Adam Yip Source: The Daily Telegraph



THE season's longest-running saga is coming to an end. It now appears only a matter of when, not if, Parramatta will part ways with Stephen Kearney. And so a club that once prided itself on its stability - think Jack Gibson and Brian Smith - will again become synonymous with change.

The Eels face Penrith and Newcastle over the next fortnight and even if they win both those games - which appears a distinct possibility given the form of the other two - it may not be enough.
A split may be the best result for all concerned. Kearney didn't become a bad coach overnight. He appears to be simply the right coach at the wrong club.
Over the past seven seasons the Eels have had five coaches. When they decide to end Kearney's tenure, it will be six. Stability? It's a word that doesn't mean much out Parramatta way.
If only he had waited another season, he could have had the Warriors job, a much better fit for a man who is worshipped across the Tasman.

Instead, he decided he would attempt to rebuild a club which has been mired in mediocrity for years. He did it by taking total control. He recruited players and was responsible for hiring and firing.
The only thing he couldn't control was the board. Kearney did his best to plug the leaks but he was fighting a losing battle. As the losses mounted, the leaks grew more frequent. Kearney has spent most of the year battling speculation he is on his way out.
When he finally departs, some of his players should hang their heads in shame. There is no doubt he has been badly let down by his playing group.
Kearney wasn't the one who missed six tackles against South Sydney on Saturday night, three of which contributed to tries being scored. That was Chris Sandow, the club's high-priced recruit. The Eels No 7 certainly isn't the only player at fault, he's just the most visible.
Kearney does need to take some responsibility for the way Sandow is playing but there's only so much he can do. At some point players have to take the rap for their own performance. When Kearney needed them most, they let him down.
So the speculation continues over who will replace the Kiwi when the axe falls, most likely at season's end but possibly sooner.
NSW coach Ricky Stuart is the favourite but his recent record is no cause for celebration. Over his four years at Cronulla, Stuart won only 45 per cent of games.
Take out 2008, when the Sharks finished in the top four, and that rate drops to 32 per cent.
There is a perception out there that Stuart is the type of big personality the club needs to keep its board under control.
But the Eels board will only stay silent for so long. If Stuart doesn't have immediate results, how long before the leaks start?
On the evidence of this season, not long at all.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...ather-than-later/story-e6frg7w6-1226399147525
 

strider

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Brent Read is obviously a SK fan

why is he banging on about the "leaks" continuing? - i think since SK has been here the leaks mostly stopped
 

IFR33K

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And when the new coach comes and Sandow fires this guy will look stupid

The guy already looks stupid, cause his agenda is getting in the way of a good story.

Compare sandow from last year to this year. Enough said.
 

Maroubra Eel

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And when the new coach comes and Sandow fires this guy will look stupid

He might fire too. Last season he only really fired from mid season. I watched him a fair bit as I live in a Rabbitohs family. Also it was always going to take a little while for him to find his feet at the Eels.
 

Gronk

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THE season's longest-running saga is coming to an end. It now appears only a matter of when, not if, Parramatta will part ways with Stephen Kearney. And so a club that once prided itself on its stability - think Jack Gibson and Brian Smith - will again become synonymous with change.

The Eels face Penrith and Newcastle over the next fortnight and even if they win both those games - which appears a distinct possibility given the form of the other two - it may not be enough.
A split may be the best result for all concerned. Kearney didn't become a bad coach overnight. He appears to be simply the right coach at the wrong club.
Over the past seven seasons the Eels have had five coaches. When they decide to end Kearney's tenure, it will be six. Stability? It's a word that doesn't mean much out Parramatta way.
If only he had waited another season, he could have had the Warriors job, a much better fit for a man who is worshipped across the Tasman.

Instead, he decided he would attempt to rebuild a club which has been mired in mediocrity for years. He did it by taking total control. He recruited players and was responsible for hiring and firing.
The only thing he couldn't control was the board. Kearney did his best to plug the leaks but he was fighting a losing battle. As the losses mounted, the leaks grew more frequent. Kearney has spent most of the year battling speculation he is on his way out.
When he finally departs, some of his players should hang their heads in shame. There is no doubt he has been badly let down by his playing group.
Kearney wasn't the one who missed six tackles against South Sydney on Saturday night, three of which contributed to tries being scored. That was Chris Sandow, the club's high-priced recruit. The Eels No 7 certainly isn't the only player at fault, he's just the most visible.
Kearney does need to take some responsibility for the way Sandow is playing but there's only so much he can do. At some point players have to take the rap for their own performance. When Kearney needed them most, they let him down.
So the speculation continues over who will replace the Kiwi when the axe falls, most likely at season's end but possibly sooner.
NSW coach Ricky Stuart is the favourite but his recent record is no cause for celebration. Over his four years at Cronulla, Stuart won only 45 per cent of games.
Take out 2008, when the Sharks finished in the top four, and that rate drops to 32 per cent.
There is a perception out there that Stuart is the type of big personality the club needs to keep its board under control.
But the Eels board will only stay silent for so long. If Stuart doesn't have immediate results, how long before the leaks start?
On the evidence of this season, not long at all. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...ather-than-later/story-e6frg7w6-1226399147525

Wow huge spray. So as far as Brett Read is concerned:-

- it's the Board's fault
- the players fault

and not

- In any way Kearney's fault

I concede that some of the players have not put in 100%, but is that their fault or is it the job of the coach to prepare them mentally ? Even the best athletes in the world employ coaches to prepare them mentally and physically. It's not a job that can be done solo 100% of the time.

Not even a little bit his fault ? :roll:
 

Gronk

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Can culture changing coaches survive in the NRL?

Patience seems foreign in modern day sport. Everything is instant and the reality of a situation can be distorted in the week to week dissection of results.
The unfashionable truth is that changing the culture of a club takes time.
But are fans, past players and officials willing to sit tight and wait to see a project to bear fruit when it seems far easier to take from the branch early and declare the selection sour?
Parramatta coach Stephen Kearney and his Penrith counterpart Ivan Cleary both have almighty jobs ahead.
Kearney has been forced to deal with a ridiculous amount of pressure and barely a week goes by where his future isn’t a topic of discussion.
The Eels sit on the bottom of the NRL ladder after 15-rounds with an 18-point loss to South Sydney on Saturday night was the latest setback.
Cleary rules with an iron-fist.
He has stripped club hero Luke Lewis of the captaincy, dropped State of Origin centre Michael Jennings to Windsor and given local junior Lachlan Coote a quick reminder of what life could be like outside the comfort of the NRL.
His reward?
The Panthers are just one place above the Eels on the ladder and described yesterday’s loss to the Gold Coast Titans as “an exercise in self-mutilation.”
It’s no great surprise that these two men are under pressure. In-fact on the surface it makes complete sense.
But both have made it known they’re trying to fix problems that aren’t of their making.
They’re trying to put systems in place which will benefit the club for decades.
Both are striving to build a culture that rivals the competition front-runners, but that culture didn’t develop overnight.
Unfortunately for the same fans, past players and officials this takes time – something that is rarely given to people in professional sport.
The alternative is to go for the quick fix, cut ties and bank on the new coach bounce.
It generally only serves to paper over the cracks that will eventually work their way up to the surface again.
Unless coaches are given the time and space to see a plan through, a club tends to be in a constant state of transition.
That’s not healthy either.
So, can a culture changing coach survive in modern day sport, or is the lure of a perceived greener pasture too hard to ignore?
http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/06/18/can-culture-changing-coaches-s...
 

The Colonel

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Very good article and while Kearney may not be the right answer, neither is papering over the cracks. It will take time to correct the current situation but many will not see the forest for the trees.
 

Gronk

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Very good article and while Kearney may not be the right answer, neither is papering over the cracks. It will take time to correct the current situation but many will not see the forest for the trees.

I whole heartedly agree HOWEVER I have this nagging feeling that whilst he and Nolan might be on the right track re-building good culture, the day to day coaching and preparation of the current squad is most unsatisfactory.

You could argue that the poor performances stem from the older brigade being tapped on the shoulder. After all if Hindy, Burt, Poore, Fui, Shack et all have been chopped, then harmony would be a difficult thing to achieve.

All the same we have gone backwards from last year and we actually have a better squad on paper. That leaves me to believe that he's not up to it in the coaching stakes.
 

The Colonel

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It is the constant transition that is killing the club as it stands. That has more of a bearing over which players are attracted to the club rather than who the coach is. Few big names will take the option when a club holds on to a coach for less than 18 months and gamble on the new coach having them in their plans. The next coach, whoever that may be, has to be allowed to finish what he starts because until such time the club will continue to float around the bottom of the ladder.
 

emjaycee

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I whole heartedly agree HOWEVER I have this nagging feeling that whilst he and Nolan might be on the right track re-building good culture, the day to day coaching and preparation of the current squad is most unsatisfactory.

You could argue that the poor performances stem from the older brigade being tapped on the shoulder. After all if Hindy, Burt, Poore, Fui, Shack et all have been chopped, then harmony would be a difficult thing to achieve.

All the same we have gone backwards from last year and we actually have a better squad on paper. That leaves me to believe that he's not up to it in the coaching stakes.

Gronk, I understand what you are saying HOWEVER Kearney has wraps on him from both within and outside the club and I can't believe the so called experts that wrap him can all be wrong.

Heaven forbid it is a combination of more than one thing. That would indicate long term and deep seated issues at the club... :crazy:
 

cv8z

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I whole heartedly agree HOWEVER I have this nagging feeling that whilst he and Nolan might be on the right track re-building good culture, the day to day coaching and preparation of the current squad is most unsatisfactory.

You could argue that the poor performances stem from the older brigade being tapped on the shoulder. After all if Hindy, Burt, Poore, Fui, Shack et all have been chopped, then harmony would be a difficult thing to achieve.

All the same we have gone backwards from last year and we actually have a better squad on paper. That leaves me to believe that he's not up to it in the coaching stakes.

Penrith and Newcastle haven't improved either
With more experienced coaches and Penrith technically have 2. Penrith fans were happy with Gould on board last year. Wonder how they feel now
 

hineyrulz

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I have a bad feeling the board will make a knee jerk decision like they did punting Ando, rushing out and signing Stuart will only be a quick fix and the last 18 months will be all for nothing.
 

The Colonel

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The third Origin game is in just over two weeks. I am confident that by the following Monday we will have a new coach and that it will be Ricky Stuart. IMO the decision was made a few weeks ago and they are just waiting for his commitments to NSW to finish.

I am also reasonably confident that midway through next season we will have at least one thread condemning the board for the decision and asking for a new coach. I hope that the board see this contract out instead of once again bowing to the mass hysteria that is created when we struggle to win games with a new look side.
 

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