Parra's next coach?

[Eels Dude]

its a wonder someone hasn't run a book on when kearney will be sacked if you took later than round 19 at the start of the year you'd get good odds i think

They have a market at the start of the year for first coach sacked don't they... I don't think Kearney was the favourite back then but he would have to be the favourite on current odds.

 

[bartman]

They have a market at the start of the year for first coach sacked don't they... I don't think Kearney was the favourite back then but he would have to be the favourite on current odds.

As of 14 November 2011, Kearney was indeed favourite - his odds should have shortened even more by now.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/footbal...avourite-to-win-sack-race-20111113-1nduq.html

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I thought we had to work out the variables. Looks like you've already decided that it's Hindmarsh and Burt. And not enough former premiership winners. How is that any different to others assumptions that Kearney is the problem?

The difference is I don't actually think Hindmarsh or Burt are to blame. I only blame them around here to make a point - there are far more factors determining our results than just the coach.

To be honest, it's well possible he's the reason our older players aren't at their best (though they were at their best last year under the same coaching). But even if he's sacked at the end of the year, the club will be in a better state than when he took over. Our squad for next year is young and exciting. Compare that with the squad we had at the end of 2010.

This is why I rate Kearney. I'm not happy about our results on the field but I'm remaining dispassionate about that and looking at how the club is taking shape. I'm very excited about next year just as I was excited about this year. And the merkins who try to piss in my cornflakes with every.f**king.thread can get f**ked.

You included.

 

[bartman]

Aw, poor Poupou can't handle what he's dished out to others in every.f***ing.thread this year.... #-o

Personally in terms of older players, I think Hindy, Burt and others were at their best in 2009 (and even earlier) rather than last year. It's just that so many are significantly worse this year with the structure apparently also sapping their performance.

Refer to the "Rebuilding Phase" thread for a thorough de-bunking of exactly how many of the young and exciting squad came to be here because of Kearney and/or Nolan. As also discussed in that thread, due to retirements and natural development of youth, the state Kearney leaves the club in would imo have been the state any other coach could leave the club in (if they were here over the same period and left at the same moment in time).

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Aw, poor Poupou can't handle what he's dished out to others in every.f***ing.thread this year.... #-o

I'm not complainign about the ribbing. f**king bring it.

I was complaining about you merkins being so negative about everything.

Personally in terms of older players, I think Hindy, Burt and others were at their best in 2009 (and even earlier) rather than last year. It's just that so many are significantly worse this year with the structure apparently also sapping their performance.

The structure did them just fine last year.

Refer to the "Rebuilding Phase" thread for a thorough de-bunking of exactly how many of the young and exciting squad came to be here because of Kearney and/or Nolan.

Actually, you better check it again. I already thoroughly debunked your "thorough de-bunking".

Even the youth that were already here have remained due to the coaching staff. Look at all the guys starring in the NRL that weren't retained by our previous coaches. And I'm not talking about Inu or Mateo - Anderson made the right call on those two.

As also discussed in that thread, due to retirements and natural development of youth, the state Kearney leaves the club in would imo have been the state any other coach could leave the club in (if they were here over the same period and left at the same moment in time).

Wrong.

Hagan and Anderson were both here for two years apiece, and the club has been in a very different state at the end of each tenure, as it will be at the end of this year.

Once our dad's army have left the club we will have the best depth since 2005. Hopefully a couple of stars emerge.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Today actually. You would think that it is the least the club could do seeing that it's my birthday.

Happy celebration moment Avenger.
You are now either pissed, deep asleep or rooting your wife or dog or just having a wank.
Apologies about such a late response, I got on here late because my shrink suggested I keep away from Poo Poo and his wikipoodia for at least 8 hours at a time and only take small Poo Poo doses of no more than two minutes at a time in-between.

 

[Gronk]

Josh's Blog

Comment From George
Any whispers about a new coach at Parramatta for next year. Who are the contenders?

12:50
Jason Taylor, Mick Potter, Brian Smith

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...ith-josh-massoud/story-e6frexnr-1226428564975

 

[Eels Dude]

Like the fact Taylor is mentioned first. Bye bye Kearney.

 

[bartman]

I'd take any of the three to be honest - all with decent enough experience to make a better shot of it than Kearney.

Thinking about Brian Smith, I guess he left/wasn't renewed during the Fitzy era, so wouldn't have a beef with anyone still left at the club.... So not as far fetched an option I'd previously thought?

 

[bartman]

From this thread, 3 June:

I think Mick Potter's contract is up at the end of this year... Parramatta-born, and might be looking for a return home? Assistant coach for Bradford in the late 90s, then coached NSW U-17s to series wins, St George Premier League coach for four years, then did a very impressive job building Catalans to their first Challenge Cup Final and play-offs appearances. Had a 70% win rate coaching St Helens after that, but has had a hard time coaching cash-strapped Bradford since.

Ten times the experience Kearney could bring, tasted premiership wins as a player and is obviously up to the job. :thumn.

I really hope we are going hard after Potter now for a start next year, seeing as he's just lost his job due to his club going broke.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Someone will snap Potter up, hopefully it's us.

 

[spartan2153]

I would not have smith back as head coach. I know he is a great technician but i think he has lost that influence he had in getting teams up. I would love to have him back as a director of football operations, overlooking all our junior system & football operations. I would bring in jason taylor as head coach but i wouldnt trust smith not to want to meddle in the coaching side of things. Taylor is still my first choice

 

[Suitman]

I'd keep Kearney for another year and sign Bellamy for 2014, with Kearney on a greatly reduced salary acting as Bellamy's assistant.

Suity

 

[spartan2153]

I'd keep Kearney for another year and sign Bellamy for 2014, with Kearney on a greatly reduced salary acting as Bellamy's assistant.

Suity

I would like bellamy in as well but the problem is there is no one under kearney you could give the keys to run the football team.

Bellamy will end up at the roosters in .

 

[Gronk]

Yeah Bellamy won't take on a dud side. He also won;t face the fans that got dudded in 2009. 1000/1

I don't think I want Brian Smith. He's done little to impress me whilst at Newcastle and Roosters.

Would I rather have JT or Mick Potter than Kearney ? Yep.

 

[spartan2153]

Yeah Bellamy won't take on a dud side. 100/1

I don't think I want Brian Smith. He's done little to impress me whilst at Newcastle and Roosters.

Would I rather have JT or Mick Potter than Kearney ? Yep.

He stopped the rot at newcastle when johns retired. If johns was out the would win wooden spoons. He built a base for them. At the roosters he is building a strong strong team but smith of ten years ago would have had team qualifying for the easily . I think he has lost that touch he once had.

I dont know enough about potter to jusge but the fact he hasnt had any gig in nrl is concerning. I might be wrong. Taylor would have learnt from his mistakes & the fact he would have instant respect from sandpw & hayne is a big plus for me

 

[Avenger]

I'd keep Kearney for another year and sign Bellamy for 2014, with Kearney on a greatly reduced salary acting as Bellamy's assistant.

Suity

That's a great idea. ;-).

 

[El Diablo]

Someone will snap Potter up, hopefully it's us.

what's his record like?

 

[Gronk]

what's his record like?

Potter has been coaching ESL since 2006 (Catalans, St Helens, Bradford) and has a 50%+ win record.

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/coaches/Michael_Potter/summary.html

 

[bartman]

It's a shame that a 50% winning record seems like such a dream these days....

When - prior to Kearney - the last time we had a coach without that 50% win record at the Eels was over 15 seasons ago (1996, Hilditch).

#winningculture