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Patrick Herbert

jeffdragon

Bench
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Just read he and his mum were being investigated by Warriors regarding an assult of a 19year old man .
He reported the alleged incident to warriors officials.
 

Old Timer

Coach
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I noticed that Patrick Herbert was still playing reserve grade even at his new club.
Just like Kurt Mann is still playing in the 14 Jersey t his new club.
A couple of forum favourites destined for bigger things once they broke the shackles of the dragons.
Where is Taane Milne BTW?
Herbert "still in the 14 jersey" is an incorrect statement and he is far better off in the 14 jumper at the Warriors than no jumper here.
Mann will see more 1st grade time at the Knights than here.
Milne is having behavioural issues and had them long before he came here.
 

grouch

First Grade
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Herbert is behind two international wingers there. Fusitua is one of the best in the comp - top tryscorer last year. Seems like he has bigger problems now.

Meanwhile Reuben Garrick starting on the wing for Manly, and Hame Sele who couldn't crack the 17 for us is on the bench for Penrith. He'd have been very handy with De Belin out.
 

True_Believer

Juniors
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Always the f**kwhit pedant.
Read the second line of his post and see if you can understand the inference that he is making and then comment dick head.

I am asking a genuine question here OT. What are you seeing as an inference?

I see him stating that Herbert is playing reserve grade still, and Mann is still playing off the bench. I didn’t see any inference at all - just direct statements.

The inference I’m seeing is that both players have been talked up in this forum and some even said they will be going on to better things immediately. So far there is nothing to suggest that.

Personally I would give it some time before making a call, but at this stage I’m not convinced we have made the wrong move by letting them go.
 

watatank

Coach
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Herbert is behind two international wingers there. Fusitua is one of the best in the comp - top tryscorer last year. Seems like he has bigger problems now.

Meanwhile Reuben Garrick starting on the wing for Manly, and Hame Sele who couldn't crack the 17 for us is on the bench for Penrith. He'd have been very handy with De Belin out.

To be fair, that manly backline is probably the weakest one named and Garrick already had an opportunity with us on the wing where he was ordinary.
 

possm

Coach
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Always the f**kwhit pedant.
Read the second line of his post and see if you can understand the inference that he is making and then comment dick head.

I am willing to move on when it comes to Herbert and Garrick. I was never a fan of Sele because I believed he was second string to De Belin and no where near De Belin's ability. Other losses from last season to be fair were not really tested in first grade however, it can be argued were not given an opportunity to be tested in first grade.

The loss of Bird and AFB to a lesser extent are losses I lament. Cook could have been kept given the depth problems the club experienced in the 1, 7 and 9 positions after he left.
 

possm

Coach
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To be fair, that manly backline is probably the weakest one named and Garrick already had an opportunity with us on the wing where he was ordinary.

Correct but let's bring that experience into context. Aitken has had many opportunities and still falls short of the standard required in first grade.
 

Old Timer

Coach
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I noticed that Patrick Herbert was still playing reserve grade even at his new club.
Just like Kurt Mann is still playing in the 14 Jersey t his new club.
A couple of forum favourites destined for bigger things once they broke the shackles of the dragons.
Where is Taane Milne BTW?

Crush
Sorry for the bad read on your post as I read the first 2 sentences as one, so got it wrong thus my response.

I am asking a genuine question here OT. What are you seeing as an inference?

I see him stating that Herbert is playing reserve grade still, and Mann is still playing off the bench. I didn’t see any inference at all - just direct statements.

The inference I’m seeing is that both players have been talked up in this forum and some even said they will be going on to better things immediately. So far there is nothing to suggest that.

Personally I would give it some time before making a call, but at this stage I’m not convinced we have made the wrong move by letting them go.

T_B
Thanks for the polite way that you re directed me to the post to see how I had misinterpreted and please refer the words I posted to crush.

It is indeed..

Good thing he never said it, then..

muzby
Apologies for my rant re the inference and please refer my above responses to crush & T_B for the causation.
Re you being a pedant & an FW that still stands and at times I wish you would leave it to to others (OP's) to do the police work.
Please do not respond to this post.

OT, you seriously need to read up on what a strawman argument is.

Stick your straw man in your arse and light him up because that might cure the hemorrhoid, that you have become on my bum. While you're at it see if you can become a boil on somebody else for a while.
 

SBD82

Coach
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Stick your straw man in your arse and light him up because that might cure the hemorrhoid, that you have become on my bum. While you're at it see if you can become a boil on somebody else for a while.
So... you’re not willing to learn what a strawman argument is?
 

Old Timer

Coach
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So... you’re not willing to learn what a strawman argument is?
Your continued arrogance and ignorance is astounding.
No doubt I can be arrogant and opinionated in respect of footy discussions this place but I am never so ignorant as to suggest what people should or should not re education.
As I suggested earlier go back and re read some posts and have a look at some of the straw men you have created but of course as your interpretations are always right and never wrong you will not be able to see them for the rest of the scarecrows.
 

SBD82

Coach
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Your continued arrogance and ignorance is astounding.
No doubt I can be arrogant and opinionated in respect of footy discussions this place but I am never so ignorant as to suggest what people should or should not re education.
As I suggested earlier go back and re read some posts and have a look at some of the straw men you have created but of course as your interpretations are always right and never wrong you will not be able to see them for the rest of the scarecrows.
Remain ignorant for all I care, but don’t pretend to know what you’re talking about.

If I have made strawman arguments I’m happy for you to point them out to me. I’ll wait. (Hint. There is one in the past couple of days, but I was trolling, and I thought it was obvious).
 

Dragonslayer

First Grade
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I noticed that Patrick Herbert was still playing reserve grade even at his new club.
Just like Kurt Mann is still playing in the 14 Jersey t his new club.
A couple of forum favourites destined for bigger things once they broke the shackles of the dragons.
Where is Taane Milne BTW?

Crush
Milne has a 1yr contract wirh the Warriors for 2019
 

Old Timer

Coach
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Remain ignorant for all I care, but don’t pretend to know what you’re talking about.

If I have made strawman arguments I’m happy for you to point them out to me. I’ll wait. (Hint. There is one in the past couple of days, but I was trolling, and I thought it was obvious).
"Trolling" well what a low form of posting that is and such a convenient way to hide your false statement.
Anyway, do me a favour let's keep a distance between us and stick to arguing footy and leave it to others as to whether they think I am attacking straw men in their posts.
You, muzby and a few others love intervening often where no intervention or comment is needed.
 

SBD82

Coach
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"Trolling" well what a low form of posting that is and such a convenient way to hide your false statement.
Anyway, do me a favour let's keep a distance between us and stick to arguing footy and leave it to others as to whether they think I am attacking straw men in their posts.
You, muzby and a few others love intervening often where no intervention or comment is needed.
You don’t show any restraint in attacking other people. Why should you expect any grace?

If you say dumb shit on a public forum, it’s not unreasonable to expect to be called out for it. If you don’t like it, you should give more careful consideration to what you post.
 

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