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Payne Haas off contract.

Frank Facer

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You're a good judge of talent? The kid is a big boy, no doubt, but he was running through kids his age and much smaller. That's why he looked so good in the lower grades. NRL is a different ball game.

700k a season is ludicrous. Even if you're right and he becomes a great player you'd a dud businessman; that kind of money for a bloke who's just debuted f**ks salary caps.



You misunderstand the point I was making.
I will get back to you in 2 or 3 years time and remind you how much of a bargain Haas would have been at 700K a season.
 

possm

Coach
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I don't think you could hold your breath for 2 or 3 years either.
We should be used to this. There is a long list of players we have not signed over the years who have gone on to do well. However, in this case I'm fairly sure we have the coin and we definitely have a spot for him. Just imagine:
Vaughan
Graham
Ah Mau
Haas

Lawrie
Kerr

Now there is a great rotation and depth for when Graham hangs up his boots. Millward should let Haas's manager know we are extremely interested. At worst we would bump up his price and cause havoc with the Bronco's salary cap.
 

Frank Facer

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Paul Kent is saying that Shannon Boyd is leaving Canberra. Boyd wants representative money and Canberra aren't prepared to pay him that kind of money. Kent is saying that the Gold Coast is Boyd's likely destination.
 

Old Timer

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The problem is that both of these young Broncos forwards are far more advanced than the young forwards we have sitting in the ISP. The idea is to have ready replacements and a good rotation. We have a good NRL side and very little backup. Millward needs to pull his figure out and make the moves that will benefit the Dragons. The Broncos surely could not afford both if we offered both big bucks with the thought that we would only buy one.
The problems not with our young players it is entirely with the coaches.
They don't know how to develop our young players.
They should get the finger out and ensure that we have the skills and competency within our coaching ranks to prepare our young players for 1st grade before they go outside buying players after a 20 minute passage of play.
 

ouryears

Bench
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We should be used to this. There is a long list of players we have not signed over the years who have gone on to do well. However, in this case I'm fairly sure we have the coin and we definitely have a spot for him. Just imagine:
Vaughan
Graham
Ah Mau
Haas

Lawrie
Kerr

Now there is a great rotation and depth for when Graham hangs up his boots. Millward should let Haas's manager know we are extremely interested. At worst we would bump up his price and cause havoc with the Bronco's salary cap.
Possum they have too much third party $$$$ for us to compete.
 

Frank Facer

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Got shown up last night. Played with men and got belted. Then got hurt.
lol

For starters he got checked in his run, that put him off balance, he then collected Klemmer at the point of his shoulder, which led to his concussion and as he was falling and being tackled, he injured his ankle. I don't see how anyone could knock him for that. lol
 

Drew-Sta

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lol

For starters he got checked in his run, that put him off balance, he then collected Klemmer at the point of his shoulder, which led to his concussion and as he was falling and being tackled, he injured his ankle. I don't see how anyone could knock him for that. lol

Keep convincing yourself ;-) I look forward to bumping this thread periodically...
 

Frank Facer

First Grade
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Keep convincing yourself ;-) I look forward to bumping this thread periodically...
lol

I will be bumping this thread in 2 or 3 years time and reminding you how right I was about Haas. lol I will also be reminding you that you said it was ludicrous to pay Haas 700K a season. lol

Time will tell.
 

possm

Coach
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100%.
Drew.

That is way you don't rush kids who aren't ready in.
I suppose it all depends on who is making the decision on ready or not ready. Right now we are going well and to me that it the time to blood a winger or a bench forward. I would have given Robson a taste earlier or just before SOO, Melbourne is a very difficult game to give him a go unless Mary is planning to have him run on when Smith comes off.

Blooding Lomax on the wing or in a centre position is another matter. In my opinion now is the time and we will lose nothing by doing this. He could be our own rising star.
 

2010

Bench
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The transition of Lomax to first grads reminds me of Dufty last season. We all knew that Dufty had the makings of a special player and his introduction to first grade. He was not rushed into the top grade and when he was you might say he was ready and he has showed us how good he is.
Lomax should be treated the same way and given game time off the bench to get him ready for first grade with the aim to play him full time in first grade. I see him as replacing Nightingale towards the end of the season.
 

ouryears

Bench
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The transition of Lomax to first grads reminds me of Dufty last season. We all knew that Dufty had the makings of a special player and his introduction to first grade. He was not rushed into the top grade and when he was you might say he was ready and he has showed us how good he is.
Lomax should be treated the same way and given game time off the bench to get him ready for first grade with the aim to play him full time in first grade. I see him as replacing Nightingale towards the end of the season.
Agree with everything you say.

The exception is he won't replace Nighty this year.

Everyone I think needs to understand that nighty will be in the team till October 2018.

Otherwise yes, get Lomax some experience in firsts.
 

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