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Opinion Penrith

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He made a half break and turned his body to perform a one handed off load to Teddy. He landed awkwardly with a defender on top of him. Just one of those freak injuries that could happen at any time.

Cheers. I didn't see what happened, and didn't claim it absolutely did happen in these "late tackles" but it's just what I was seeing go on a lot in the game and thought it may have happened amongst this stuff. Thanks for clarifying.
 

Pretty Penny

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It was the Munster tackle that broke Cleary's shoulder. As you can see from Nathan clutching the shoulder just after the Munster tackle. Grub Munster is the culprit, again!!

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Pretty Penny

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We could make an Oscar Award winning movie staring Charlton Heston as Ivan Cleary trying to part the waters. The Agony (last years Grand Final loss, Acne's shoulder tear, the Smug Bros not performing in finals) and the Exodus (half the team moving clubs by cashing in for more money and higher profile)
 

Nealo 12

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We could make an Oscar Award winning movie staring Charlton Heston as Ivan Cleary trying to part the waters. The Agony (last years Grand Final loss, Acne's shoulder tear, the Smug Bros not performing in finals) and the Exodus (half the team moving clubs by cashing in for more money and higher profile)
I think I prefer you as Roy
 

Pretty Penny

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I’m no physio so can’t quote the science involved, but I have subluxed and dislocated both shoulders several times. I do know it is possible to strengthen the muscles around the shoulder to act as stabilisers and keep playing. But without the surgery, it is dead easy to sublux again and you are also more likely to get a full dislocation without the surgery. A team-mate of mine who had suffered a couple of sublux injuries to the same shoulder, was leaning with his arm against a wall, (hand above his head, palm against the wall). He sneezed and the shoulder just popped straight out. When he crawls back on the field, Acne faced Cleary in 4 weeks, won’t be the same Acne faced Cleary that we saw so far this season.

The Panthers will be walking a tightrope with him for the rest of the season, which will include reduced training sessions. Having said that though, Cleary at 50% is still better than most halves in the comp.

But one big hard hit in the wrong place or landing improperly and a busted up Acne faced Cleary will be out for the whole season.
 

Pretty Penny

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That enormous sigh of relief you just heard probably came from the over-rated Daly Cherry (forever)-Evans… surgery for Acne face Cleary in the off season likely means that DCE will keep his no. 7 jersey for Australia in the World Cup at the end of the year; although I don’t think he’s anywhere near being one of the top two halves in the game right now.

Interesting conflict for Acne faces' dad Ivan the Terrible, he has to risk his own kids long term health so the club has a better shot at the premiership. On a Personal front, I had that very same type of shoulder injury as a 23 year old, and now I struggle to lift anything above shoulder height (30 years later).
 

Pretty Penny

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Seems old Ivan the Terrible doesn't mind smugly telling everyone old Acne Face Cleary is some sort of throw back he man and game defining genius.


I’m always a bit loath to give my son too many raps (yeah right!) ... I’m extremely proud of that performance, and that will not only pay him back in the long run but it also sets the standard for our team,” Cleary said.
“It was a bit of old-fashioned toughness. In today’s game, it discourages that type of play, the game can stop at any minute at the moment ... the fact [the] Queensland team didn’t even know he was injured so they couldn’t target him; he knew it was important he didn’t show he was injured because then he would be targeted. It was his way of mentally dealing with it and getting on with it.”

Andrew Johns wrote in his weekly Herald column Penrith could not win a grand final without their halfback, but father and son naturally thought otherwise.
“I think the way our team works, it’s quite similar to the mentality of the Blues team, everyone has that team-first mentality, and people who step up to the role are more than capable of doing the job,” Nathan said.
Ivan added: “I don’t think there’s any point worrying about grand finals at this point. We’re only worried about Parramatta on Friday night.”
 

Munted

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I’ve never seen a fan base as obsessed with clarifying games as panthers ones
Fkn serious merkin?
You hearing the dribble from the storm fans?
"Brandon smith was passing to people's ankles"
"we had new combos still gelling".
"no paps!"

Everyone gives it as good as the Panthers fans do.

Face it, us NRL fans are a pack of whinging merkins.
You and I. Everyone.
 

soc123_au

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Looking at that specific game, who are you suggesting would be in the top 17 that wasn't available that day? Peter Wallace is the only one that stands out to me.
I'd have to look up the 2014 squad to refresh my memory. I remember it was a brutal year injury wise. Taylor did an acl mid year and Cartwright did his ankle. Both were in great form when injury hit. I'll get back to you on the others.


Edit, not as bad as I had recalled. We must have gotten a few back in the back end of the season.
Missing were Wallace, Taylor, Cartwright, Peachy, Grant, Simmons, Docker & Kingston.
 
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soc123_au

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That enormous sigh of relief you just heard probably came from the over-rated Daly Cherry (forever)-Evans… surgery for Acne face Cleary in the off season likely means that DCE will keep his no. 7 jersey for Australia in the World Cup at the end of the year; although I don’t think he’s anywhere near being one of the top two halves in the game right now.

Interesting conflict for Acne faces' dad Ivan the Terrible, he has to risk his own kids long term health so the club has a better shot at the premiership. On a Personal front, I had that very same type of shoulder injury as a 23 year old, and now I struggle to lift anything above shoulder height (30 years later).
So as a 53 year old you still cant help yourself but to tease a guy about his acne at least once a sentence? Golf clap for you, your parents should be ashamed.
 

mxlegend99

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I'd have to look up the 2014 squad to refresh my memory. I remember it was a brutal year injury wise. Taylor did an acl mid year and Cartwright did his ankle. Both were in great form when injury hit. I'll get back to you on the others.
We had in our roster but not in the team:

Bryce Cartwright
Peter Wallace
Elijah Taylor
Adam Docker
Tyrone Peachey
Isaah Yeo
Tim Grant
Kevin Kingston
Isaac John

Really can't recall what our top 17 was. But Soward started with Wallace in halves. We put Cartwright, Peachey and John with him before season ending injuries to them put Will Smith in at 6.

We had no right beating Roosters. That was ultimately our grand final though. Also screwed up the finals making a Roosters/Souths grand final impossible.
 

Perth Red

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How did Qlnd not see his injury, he was clutching his shoulder after every tackle and his arm was hanging like a limp bit of lettuce at times! Lol at dad saying his son hid it well.
 

soc123_au

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We had in our roster but not in the team:

Bryce Cartwright
Peter Wallace
Elijah Taylor
Adam Docker
Tyrone Peachey
Isaah Yeo
Tim Grant
Kevin Kingston
Isaac John

Really can't recall what our top 17 was. But Soward started with Wallace in halves. We put Cartwright, Peachey and John with him before season ending injuries to them put Will Smith in at 6.

We had no right beating Roosters. That was ultimately our grand final though. Also screwed up the finals making a Roosters/Souths grand final impossible.
I edited my post as you were replying. I missed Yeo and Johns in my edit. A few arguably wouldnt have been in the top squad. Yeo, Taylor, Wallace, Cartwright, Peachy, Grant and Simmons were. It was still a cracking year for us, especially with the injuries. Soward and Segeyaro were fantastic in 2014.
 

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