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Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

Storm80

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Lmao

they were taking qld players before expanding

it’s the exact reason brisbane were added so qld could keep its players

and they had mini casinos backing them

nice conspiracy theory though
God lord where do I even begin with this crap.

Mini Casinos? Hahaha

Gambling was illegal in Queensland, except for Jupiter’s casino on the Gold Coast and up in NQ.

That’s why seagulls and twin towns in tweed heads did so well. The people coming over the border to go to shows and play pokies etc. I don’t think queensland legilised pokies till early 1990’s. Brisbane certainly didn’t get a casino until mid 90s.

Go read a book about the history of NSWRL, the Broncos or Super League. You’d clearly be surprised by what you learn
 

Perth Red

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the sound of beating drums…..

Peter V’landys has made his mark as one of the most influential sporting executives in Australia by simultaneously running the Australia Rugby League Commission and Racing NSW.
The Sydney Morning Herald’sAndrew Webster believes that it may be time for V’landys to give up one of his jobs in order to put his entire focus into one project.
Sydney Morning Herald’sAndrew Webster believes that it may be time for V’landys to give up one of his jobs in order to put his entire focus into one

“Is it time for him (V’landys) to make a decision between being the chair of the ARLC commission and Racing NSW executive, I think he needs to make a decision on between one he wants to do,” Webster said on SEN 1170 Mornings.
“He’s been doing it (both roles) for just over four years, when you’re a chairman who is basically a sudor executive chairman, that’s the way PVL operates, I think you need to be all in.
“If you’re not going to be all I you can go back to being a commissioner and let someone else take over, he’s done a great service to the game and we all respect that.
“This hasn’t been a great year for him, it hasn’t been great in terms of the fallout with the stadiums with Dominic Perrottet.”
V’landys was vocal in his disappointment with the NSW Premier after he suggested they had broken a promise to upgrade suburban stadiums in order to keep the NRL Grand Final in Sydney for a further 20 years.
“There’s been a fallout with clubs over the size of the TV deal in comparison to the AFL monster deal,” Webster said.
“There’s mutiny in the ranks and I just think it might be time for him to decide.”

 

Wb1234

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God lord where do I even begin with this crap.

Mini Casinos? Hahaha

Gambling was illegal in Queensland, except for Jupiter’s casino on the Gold Coast and up in NQ.

That’s why seagulls and twin towns in tweed heads did so well. The people coming over the border to go to shows and play pokies etc. I don’t think queensland legilised pokies till early 1990’s. Brisbane certainly didn’t get a casino until mid 90s.

Go read a book about the history of NSWRL, the Broncos or Super League. You’d clearly be surprised by what you learn
You said the Sydney clubs were broke And that’s why they expanded

Do you even read the drivel you write

little wonder you can’t fathom how strong the game is now under our current bosses. But I’m sure you will rush in to tell us how much better the fumblers do it

re the nswrl it’s covered in Sean Fagans book rugby rebellion. By 1910 the nswrl had basically decimated the mru and nswru and has been the dominant code ever since

it was so successful it expanded to other states and nations
 
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Yes I do think it is the Sydney clubs hold the game back.

The only reason they approved expansion in the first place was to bleed the new queensland teams for money to prop up themselves and avoid bankruptcy.

The whole genesis for super league was a response to Sydney clubs and nsw dominated ARL making shit decisions at the expense of interstate clubs, particularly the broncos.

The reason we don’t have an NRL with the governance framework to actually needed to dictate to the clubs - is cause the Sydney clubs and NSWRL won’t agree to it. Which is insanity.

Can’t have a national reserves comp cause the Newtown, North Sydney, Mounties and Illawarra don’t want it? The whole system is stuffed. How do these 4 clubs get voting rights in how the national competition functions? It’s absurd.

We also have an NRL attempting to hoodwink QRL, NSWRL, all clubs and players by steath and undermine the bizarre governance framework in place. Rather than engage properly with its key stakeholders.

So yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s the Sydney clubs both the ones in NRL and those in NSWRL that holding rugby league back in this country, rather than the Melbourne, Brisbane and North Queenslands in the comp.
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Colk

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Yes I do think it is the Sydney clubs hold the game back.

The only reason they approved expansion in the first place was to bleed the new queensland teams for money to prop up themselves and avoid bankruptcy.

The whole genesis for super league was a response to Sydney clubs and nsw dominated ARL making shit decisions at the expense of interstate clubs, particularly the broncos.

The reason we don’t have an NRL with the governance framework to actually needed to dictate to the clubs - is cause the Sydney clubs and NSWRL won’t agree to it. Which is insanity.

Can’t have a national reserves comp cause the Newtown, North Sydney, Mounties and Illawarra don’t want it? The whole system is stuffed. How do these 4 clubs get voting rights in how the national competition functions? It’s absurd.

We also have an NRL attempting to hoodwink QRL, NSWRL, all clubs and players by steath and undermine the bizarre governance framework in place. Rather than engage properly with its key stakeholders.

So yeah, I’m pretty sure it’s the Sydney clubs both the ones in NRL and those in NSWRL that holding rugby league back in this country, rather than the Melbourne, Brisbane and North Queenslands in the comp.

First of all, good on them.

Secondly, a large swathe of QLD Cup clubs are against it too because it will affect their competition a whole lot more.

Thirdly, why do you think a national reserve grade is a good idea anyway? Not many sports do it (European soccer) because it is not a particularly good idea. I know the fumblers don’t for example. It’s also an anti growth, anti expansion idea and will give even more power to clubs which is not what you or I want
 

Wb1234

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so the arlc had already agreed to a cap of at least 11 million for next year and for clubs to receive 16 million but both the cry babies thought these offers were just terrible and wanted to throw a tanty

both parties are getting what they want this is just a flex to show how much power they have
 

Iamback

Coach
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so the arlc had already agreed to a cap of at least 11 million for next year and for clubs to receive 16 million but both the cry babies thought these offers were just terrible and wanted to throw a tanty

both parties are getting what they want this is just a flex to show how much power they have

That is what I said for weeks the NRL have said this is the split, The NRLPA just have some crazy demamds on top of that. This is causing the hold up
 

Canard

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Amateur clubs in most sports operate numerous teams at different age groups and often for both genders, I’m not sure what your question is?

Yes, that's what I was stating also, and that's how it's been in Queensland in my lifetime.

@Jamberoo just divided 4100 by 17 and came up with a number of clubs, and seemed to have no concept of age groups.

I wondered if that's how it operates at junior Aussie Rules level.
 

Canard

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God lord where do I even begin with this crap.

Mini Casinos? Hahaha

Gambling was illegal in Queensland, except for Jupiter’s casino on the Gold Coast and up in NQ.

That’s why seagulls and twin towns in tweed heads did so well. The people coming over the border to go to shows and play pokies etc. I don’t think queensland legilised pokies till early 1990’s. Brisbane certainly didn’t get a casino until mid 90s.

Go read a book about the history of NSWRL, the Broncos or Super League. You’d clearly be surprised by what you learn

Cairns Casino didn't open until 1996.

I don't think gambling was illegal per se, but pokies where.
 

Storm80

Juniors
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You said the Sydney clubs were broke And that’s why they expanded

Do you even read the drivel you write

little wonder you can’t fathom how strong the game is now under our current bosses. But I’m sure you will rush in to tell us how much better the fumblers do it

re the nswrl it’s covered in Sean Fagans book rugby rebellion. By 1910 the nswrl had basically decimated the mru and nswru and has been the dominant code ever since

it was so successful it expanded to other states and nations
Why the hell you talking about 1910? Haha the broncos commenced in 1988.

Mergers of Sydney clubs had been floated since the early 70s with the plan being to have teams in Canberra wagga Newcastle and Brisbane. All because the code with so many Sydney clubs was unsustainable.

Wests and Newtown were booted out the comp in 1983.

Arthurson had floated a type of “super league” in 86. QRL pulled out for the licence for a Brisbane club. Then AFL started the Bears in 87. A direct result of panicking that AFL got into Queensland market first, NSWRL and sydney clubs allowed the creation of the Broncos - a privately owned club with restriction in place to be the only Queensland club in return for the $500,000 licence fee which surprise surprise was distributed to Sydney clubs.

Then NSWRL announced the Gold Coast Giants would play in Tweed to avoid the exclusivity agreement in place with Broncos. From that point on, the relationship between Broncos and NSWRL only deteriorated due to Sydney centric decision making.

1992 - Bradley report - recommends culling, merging and relocating Sydney clubs. Then by 95 the broncos, the only real profit making club, is told they have to meet the same criteria as Sydney clubs and will only be invited to join the ARL on a year to year basis and things like having to share merchandise revenue with Sydney clubs continue. ARL completely lit the fuse for a Super League. But yeah sure, talk about 1910 all ya like.

How strong the game is under our current bosses?

In 2016-17 they dipped into the sustainability fund to prop up poor performing clubs - Sydney Clubs again. This lead to Graeme Samuel quitting the Commission.

By 2020, covid came along they had no assets or “sustainability fund” to help fund the game. So knowing the comp is on its knees, PVL decides to get his head on TV every two seconds and claim the NRL is gonna go broke, which just allowed Foxtel and Nine to know they had positions of power and took to tv rights agreements like vultures picking at the bones.

The decision to go ahead with renegotiation on tv rights, which Greenberg and Abdo recommended the Commission not to do, has ended up costing the NRL, clubs and players at least $500m in comparison to the rival code.

Now they can’t get the CBA done and players are openly disparaging the code in media.

Clubs are pissed cause they can’t get any transparency on financials of things like magic round and tv rights deals.

You know the AFL CBA is up this year too? Don’t hear any talk of rebel leagues or clubs getting the administration of the game sacked.

If you think this game is well run under the current administration you’ve got rocks in ya head
 

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