Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[MugaB]

People I"m not sure you understand.

If we arbitrarily remove the 91, 03, 21 and 22 seasons Penrith have never won a premiership.

Faultless logic.

Five out of seven nights most hospitality businesses are pretty empty. Obviously Friday and Saturday should be excluded from the P&L since they skew it badly.

They teach maths different in Logan, its done by subtracting anything not liked, then adding Singapore

 

[Perth Red]

Correct in both of these, I have argued the AFL should get more because of game length. Even on Fox on a Sat, You have the audience from 1pm until well past 11pm. So much more cross promotion, Sportsbet ads to put in that time.

You nailed the PR attack in one

True but what about the counter balance of Origin and much larger PTV viewing audiences?

 

[MugaB]

NRL has 0 viewers between Oct-Feb.

Code in Decline

Incorrect we have the grand final on the 1st weekend of October, but yeah don't count that either, coz we will skew the cherry picked data and wont be able to control the narrative

 

[MugaB]

Saying "there isn't enough halfbacks etc" for 16 teams is a subjective opinion, that can't be argued for or against with any factual information.

For mine (subjectively) this can't be used as a reason to reduce teams.

Correct, and there has been on many occasions, 16+ halfbacks....maybe since 2002 to now and the period prior between 1988-99 where there has been a halfback present for the bulk of every game, round, for every week for those whole seasons, then you have guys who are in reserve grade beneath them who also happen to be halfbacks too (a great example was noddy/8th immortal at Newy)
Im sure there was more halfbacks than grotd has digits... but he probably can't count past 20.. potato might just be his favorite number
... its what your taught in logan high
He is up there with M.moses

 

[Perth Red]

I didnt cherry pick. ive said all along that they are improving, and they are. Highest average since 2014 - best average in 8 years, is nothing to sneeze at. Your lovechild over at the AFL hasnt been able to catch pre 2019 levels. let alone the 2008 record season. To come out of COVID and have the best season in 8 years attendance wise is bloody good.



We have enough club official data to make that assumption. And 5% growth is not nothing.



You ride that horse mate, ride it into the ground.

all i needed to say there was positive was growth was that Revenue growth was great.



Its still the highest its ever been. And thats not nothing. In fact, thats a positive outcome, by definition.



And as Ive repeatedly said, that has nothing to do with anything I wrote above, and everything to do with your inferiority complex where the AFL is concerned.



if most men have been reasonable and one or two disagree then those two should be looking closely at themselves.

yes you did, you specifically picked out 6 years ago which was an anomaly.
this years avg is 15.3k isnt it? Wow that's a massive 0.7% higher than most recent years. Static is what I said and static so far is what it remains and still behind where the game was ten years ago.

Nearly a third of the clubs had lower memberships in 2022 compared to 2018. Gangbusters

If youre note measuring against you're nearest rival then youre living in a pink fluffy bubble. So yeh I'll keep riding that horse thanks

well TV didnt go down you're right there lol. But its still the worse NRL tv deal in the modern day and you can sugar coat that piece of Vlandys sht as much as you like its still terrible.

Leaders are never satisfied. Just because there's a handful of vlandys sycophants and fans who cant bear to see the sport scrutinized or criticized doesn't make them reasonable. I've been on here a very long time and seen idiots come and go over the years. These are just the latest batch

 

[Iamback]

Incorrect we have the grand final on the 1nst weekend of October, but yeah font count that either, coz we will skew the cherry picked data and wont be able to control the narrative

83k ave crowd.

NRL = most attended sport in the world then between Oct-Feb

 

[Iamback]

Correct, and there has been on many occasions, halfbacks....maybe since 2002 to now and the period prior between 1988-99 where there has been a halfback present for the bulk of every game, round, for every week for those whole seasons, then you have guys who are in reserve grade beneath them who also happen to be halfbacks too (a great example was noddy/8th immortal at Newy)
Im sure there was more halfbacks than grotd has digits... but he probably can't count past 20.. potato might just be his favorite number
... its what your taught in logan high

If he counts all his fingers with one head.
Then the same fingers with his 2nd head. He'd get to 20...After that no chance

 

[Iamback]

@The_Wookie has AFL said how they will count the Magic round crowd?

When they count it the same way, Magically the pair of gronks will agree with it

 

[Perth Red]

@The_Wookie has AFL said how they will count the Magic round crowd?

When they count it the same way, Magically the pair of gronks will agree with it

Its a fudge (along with double headers) whoever is counting it that way.

 

[MugaB]

83k ave crowd.

NRL = most attended sport in the world then between Oct-Feb

Stop counting it bro... i told you, you'll fk the narrative

 

[MugaB]

If he counts all his fingers with one head.
Then the same fingers with his 2nd head. He'd get to 20...After that no chance

Its the main reason we aren't allowed to have more than 20 clubs in the NRL, its simply he dont have enough fingers

 

[AlwaysGreen]

All this posting because AFL Red doesn't have a team to watch the very few times afl isn't played in Perth over the winter.

And if course if the blesser moved out of Perth to haunt some other poor city he wouldn't give 2 hoots about a Perth team.

Bless, lol, derail etc.

 

[The_Wookie]

yes you did, you specifically picked out 6 years ago which was an anomaly.

ive repeatedly said 2014...which is 8 years ago, and the last time the crowd average was higher. ffs.

this years avg is 15.3k isnt it? Wow that's a massive 0.7% higher than most recent years. Static is what I said and static so far is what it remains and still behind where the game was ten years ago.

Slight gains are better than falling behind...particularly in this environment. The AFL havent caught 2008.

Nearly a third of the clubs had lower memberships in 2022 compared to 2018. Gangbusters

And a third had higher. dont forget that. total numbers are up as far as the evidence is concerned. They dont have tp be up hugely. hell the AFL had to change the criteria for membership to get raises.

If youre note measuring against you're nearest rival then youre living in a pink fluffy bubble. So yeh I'll keep riding that horse thanks

And people will keep posting clowns in response. I never quite understood it before now.

well TV didnt go down you're right there lol. But its still the worse NRL tv deal in the modern day and you can sugar coat that piece of Vlandys sht as much as you like its still terrible.

If its gone up, then its not the worst NRL tv deal is it. And your a broken record, regardless of the post or context of thread you are referring to.

Leaders are never satisfied. Just because there's a handful of vlandys sycophants and fans who cant bear to see the sport scrutinized or criticized doesn't make them reasonable. I've been on here a very long time and seen idiots come and go over the years. These are just the latest batch

Do you consider yourself a leader here? Theres a handful of people like you. Literally, like three of you.

 

[The_Wookie]

@The_Wookie has AFL said how they will count the Magic round crowd?

When they count it the same way, Magically the pair of gronks will agree with it

No, and it doesnt really matter. Ill run the calcs both ways as I do for the NRL.

In the NRLs case they and AFLtables do it the one way, Leagueunlimited and myself do it another. It'll probably be something similar for the AFL - leagues want maximum numbers. Im not sure theres a firm statistical right.

 

[Iamback]

No, and it doesnt really matter. Ill run the calcs both ways as I do for the NRL.

In the NRLs case they and AFLtables do it the one way, Leagueunlimited and myself do it another. It'll probably be something similar for the AFL - leagues want maximum numbers. Im not sure theres a firm statistical right.

I did notice the NRL did the same at the GF, Put attendance for each individual game.
Must be a sponsor/Kpi reasoning

 

[Iamback]

Its the main reason we aren't allowed to have more than 20 clubs in the NRL, its simply he dont have enough fingers

Ahh Simple Queenslanders... Holding the game back

 

[Iamback]

All this posting because AFL Red doesn't have a team to watch the very few times afl isn't played in Perth over the winter.

And if course if the blesser moved out of Perth to haunt some other poor city he wouldn't give 2 hoots about a Perth team.

Bless, lol, derail etc.

PVL did us all a favour and sent the miserable prick 2 teams he hates for the double header...

 

[Perth Red]

ive repeatedly said 2014...which is 8 years ago, and the last time the crowd average was higher. ffs.




Slight gains are better than falling behind...particularly in this environment. The AFL havent caught 2008.



And a third had higher. dont forget that. total numbers are up as far as the evidence is concerned. They dont have tp be up hugely. hell the AFL had to change the criteria for membership to get raises.



And people will keep posting clowns in response. I never quite understood it before now.




If its gone up, then its not the worst NRL tv deal is it. And your a broken record, regardless of the post or context of thread you are referring to.



Do you consider yourself a leader here? Theres a handful of people like you. Literally, like three of you.

you picked out 6 years ago in your comment about crowds being up. they are static Given any level of significance in changing numbers. despite all the money the games spent crowds were not shifting in the immediaye years pre covid and havent yet. That’s not a plus for the games performance.

great so a third better, a third the same, a third worse? Wow that’s some achievement compared to when nrl where running memberships.

ah now you’re allowing yourself to be pulled down to the knuckle draggers inability to hold a sensible discussion. I think you’ll find basing your performance on your nearest competitor is a very common and logical thing to be doing. That we fall short in a number of areas is why people dont like doing it. I get that. Being shown your shortcomings is rarely a comfortable thing.

it is by far in terms of tv deals in the modern times the worse deal. It hasn’t gone down, wow is that really the measure of success? .Only the skynz part of the deal is any sort of outcome, the Australian parts are an absolute sht show.

I like to think I don’t tow the same line as the sycophants and denialists. doesn’t make me popular with some, but then people who refuse to sit in a box rarely are.

 

[Perth Red]

PVL did us all a favour and sent the miserable prick 2 teams he hates for the double header...

Fortunately I’ll be living it up overseas, but would have been fun booing sharks for sure.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

AFL Red's definition of cherry picking:

Anything he doesn't agree with.