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[Vlad59]

Of course it is. Certain people go a little over the top about participation numbers. It only tells a part of the story.

The fumblers probably will have more numbers. So will soccer, cricket and netball. Gridiron gets eclipsed in the same way. Nevertheless (and I don’t like the sport I should add) they still get incredible athletes and it is by far the most popular sport over there.

Although we will unlikely ever reach their popularity (per capita of course) we can still aim at doing what they do and just getting the best of the best.

Totally agree.

 

[Perth Red]

Of course it is. Certain people go a little over the top about participation numbers. It only tells a part of the story.

The fumblers probably will have more numbers. So will soccer, cricket and netball. Gridiron gets eclipsed in the same way. Nevertheless (and I don’t like the sport I should add) they still get incredible athletes and it is by far the most popular sport over there.

Although we will unlikely ever reach their popularity (per capita of course) we can still aim at doing what they do and just getting the best of the best.

That’s fine if youve got amazing development set ups like AF has.
Even then their participation rates are 1million high school jnrs and 80k playing in elite college systems for 400 places a year so not sure that’s a great example of how participation rates dont matter!

the more kids playing the game in good systems the thicker the cream that gets to the u17+ elite pathways system.

 

[Wb1234]

That’s fine if youve got amazing development set ups like AF has.
Even then their participation rates are 1million high school jnrs and 80k playing in elite college systems for 400 places a year so not sure that’s a great example of how participation rates dont matter!

the more kids playing the game in good systems the thicker the cream that gets to the u17+ elite pathways system.

They can’t support more than 16 teams

nrl has to not only support its teams plus another 3 teams worth in super league

you are literally just making up bs

 

[Colk]

They can’t support more than 16 teams

nrl has to not only support its teams plus another 3 teams worth in super league

you are literally just making up bs

He is talking about gridiron

 

[Colk]

That’s fine if youve got amazing development set ups like AF has.
Even then their participation rates are 1million high school jnrs and 80k playing in elite college systems for 400 places a year so not sure that’s a great example of how participation rates dont matter!

the more kids playing the game in good systems the thicker the cream that gets to the u17+ elite pathways system.

That’s literally less participants per capita than what RL is.

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They have a different system and don’t really have a lot of community sport but in essence that is not a lot of participants for a country of 340 million. Heck I would imagine that is a lot less participants than say soccer in America

 

[Vlad59]

That’s literally less participants per capita than what RL is.

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They have a different system and don’t really have a lot of community sport but in essence that is not a lot of participants for a country of 340 million. Heck I would imagine that is a lot less participants than say soccer in America

Our total was over 190000 club participants not including oztag and touch, both of which belong to the RL family

 

[Iamback]

it’s elite pathways and is focused on a very tiny % of young players.
grassroots is all age age groups of amateur players outside of nrl pathways. The two exist for very different purposes and are very different things.

nrl clubs responsible for elite pathways, LC spend on grassroots and elite pathways to very variable amounts,
arlc responsible and spends on grassroots.

To say it’s ok arlc is spending less on grassroots as nrl clubs are spending more on elite pathways is total nonsense.

Again to use your example the other day.

If Penrith Junior League is making a profit - which they are.

We should Panthers and NRL give them anything?

You are fixated on the overall $ spend and not the best way to spend said funds

 

[Iamback]

Our total was over 190000 club participants not including oztag and touch, both of which belong to the RL family

That is the thing.

AFL would count them which technically isn't lying. To look better on paper, But some old guys playing touch to keep fit aren't adding to the potential NRL player pool.

I'd rather the true figures so funding can be allocated correctly

 

[Vlad59]

That is the thing.

AFL would count them which technically isn't lying. To look better on paper, But some old guys playing touch to keep fit aren't adding to the potential NRL player pool.

I'd rather the true figures so funding can be allocated correctly

We need both. The BS figures for government grants and the true figures to ensure are on top of ensuring we have the talent pool to feed into our elite comps.

 

[Perth Red]

Again to use your example the other day.

If Penrith Junior League is making a profit - which they are.

We should Panthers and NRL give them anything?

You are fixated on the overall $ spend and not the best way to spend said funds

I haven’t said they should, but I’m not the one claiming nrl clubs have massively upped their grassroots funding spend! It’s bs.

 

[Vlad59]

I haven’t said they should, but I’m not the one claiming nrl clubs have massively upped their grassroots funding spend! It’s bs.

Sitting in Perth rooting for the weagles and maliciously and miserably trolling through nrl club annual reports to find something to whinge about. What a life.

 

[Iamback]

I haven’t said they should, but I’m not the one claiming nrl clubs have massively upped their grassroots funding spend! It’s bs.

What do you class as grassroots though?

All that has happened is DO under the NRL banner are being run by clubs.

Nothing else changed though

 

[Wb1234]

Sitting in Perth rooting for the weagles and maliciously and miserably trolling through nrl club annual reports to find something to whinge about. What a life.

He can’t make up his mind whether png juniors are good or not

the minute hull jr got involved they went from crap to great

 

[Vlad59]

He can’t make up his mind whether png juniors are good or not

the minute hull jr got involved they went from crap to great

Sign of just how malicious he’s become. Getting a team in Perth won’t shut him up either. He’ll just get worse.

 

[Iamback]

He can’t make up his mind whether png juniors are good or not

the minute hull jr got involved they went from crap to great

Happy to engage in meaningful debate but not sure what he is looking for here.

Admitted the NRL clubs shouldn't be dealing with u6's.

DO being funded by clubs instead is the same job as before just not doubling up

 

[Wb1234]

Happy to engage in meaningful debate but not sure what he is looking for here.

Admitted the NRL clubs shouldn't be dealing with u6's.

DO being funded by clubs instead is the same job as before just not doubling up

any excuse to say afl good nrl bad

 

[Perth Red]

Happy to engage in meaningful debate but not sure what he is looking for here.

Admitted the NRL clubs shouldn't be dealing with u6's.

DO being funded by clubs instead is the same job as before just not doubling up

Nrl is still employing DO’s.

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[Iamback]

any excuse to say afl good nrl bad

Luckily the NRL won't be dumb enough to do that

 

[Vlad59]

Luckily the NRL won't be dumb enough to do that

Great fun watching PR contradicting himself on this topic. He’s all over the place.

 

[Wb1234]

Great fun watching PR contradicting himself on this topic. He’s all over the place.

Nrl way is better

let clubs do bulk of the development vs afl approach of throwing away so much money

Gus used to talk about how there was an overlap between clubs and nrl and in other areas no do at all