Other than writing something that's completely irrelevant to what you're responding to, is there a point to this?
I said Tweed Heads is on the far outskirts of the Gold Coast metropolitan area. I then pointed out that North Sydney Oval isn't on the outskirts of the region the Bears held.
How did this simple point go over your head?
Because I'm very simple mate.
Also, the epicentre of the Bears Junior base is up in Asquith, Berowra and Dural, which are all very far away.
The point is your point is rather stupid. Tweed Heads is part of the Gold Coast, and if your expecting Sydneysiders to just turn up to Sydney clubs because it' "Sydney" not expecting the same of people on the Gold Coast is pretty f**king hypocritical.
Or are you just being obtuse because you don't have a counterpoint?
Just admit that having the Gold Coast Tweed Seagulls would be like basing the Bears in a small suburb that's on the outskirts of the Bears' district.
Mate, the NFL New York Sides play out of New Jersey. The 49ers play out of Santa Clara. This is a pretty dumb argument.
Unless we want to accept the fact that despite how close a place might be to another, they can have very distinct identities! And that isn't just happening on the border of QLD and NSW, but also in Sydney!
The Gold Coast metropolitan area consists of Gold Coast City and Tweed Heads. Gold Coast City has about 600k people. Tweed Heads has less than 80k people. Putting a team in Tweed Heads and saying it represents everyone from Gold Coast City is like basing a team out of Redcliffe and claiming it represents everyone in Brisbane City, Ipswich, Logan and Redlands just because Moreton Bay is part of the Brisbane metropolitan area.
Yeah, almost like claiming a 'Sydney' side can represent all of Sydney, and that people from a distinct district like the North Shore should just support another 'Sydney' team would be really f**king dumb hey?
So all Sydney clubs should play out of the SFS because they're from the same metropolis?
People travel from Penrith to Sydney CBD for work, so using your logic then there's no reason Penrith cannot draw 25k by playing out of the SFS if you!
Base all nine Sydney clubs out of the SFS and you'll have non-stop howling on here from fans of the eight clubs that aren't within a 25km radius of the SFS.
Just like a lone man whinging about a Gold Coast team playing out Tweed Heads.
Use that noggin of yours to get the parallel mate.
Gold Coast City has an area of 1,334 km2. There's 69km between Stapylton in the north and Coolangatta in the south. It takes approximately 80 minutes to drive from one to the other. A more centralised suburb like Surfers Paradise is 26km from Coolangatta. So at least half of Gold Coast is too far away from Tweed Heads to draw fans.
How big is North Sydney Bears' district in square KMs and what percentage of their fans had to drive for 80 minutes to get to NSO?
It's around 960 square km.
From Chinaman's beach to Wiseman's ferry it's about 71km.
The drive from the North of the District to NSO can take up to two hours at certain times of the day due to traffic.
I am not sure why this is important but there we go!
Not really when residents of all 81 suburbs of Gold Coast City are governed by the Mayor of the Gold Coast and Premier of Queensland whereas the hillbillies from Tweed Heads are governed by the Mayor of Tweed Heads and Premier of NSW. For half the year the two cities are in a separate time zone. During the lock down people weren't allowed to cross the border.
In 1988 when the Giants began life "All 81 suburbs of the Gold Coast were governed by the mayor of the Gold Coast" was objectively not true.
The Albert Shire still existed. Like again history seems to elude you.
Tweed has its own broadcast area.
Yeah, for administrative purposes they live in a different state, so of course they are in a different broadcast area.
Of course if you have an aerial you can pick up both signals in both the Gold Coast (up to like Surfers on a good day lol) and down to like Murwillumbah in NSW.
I somehow doubt someone in 1988 was fastidiously observing the correct broadcasts of their area lol.
I certainly didn't when I could get both Sydney and Regional TV.
The only reason the NSWRL was able to bankrupt the BRL clubs was because the NSW Gov legalised gaming machines in licenced venues in the 1950s. Queensland Gov didn’t legalise them until the 1990s. Since then some of the traditional BRL clubs have gone on to become very wealthy. Clubs like Easts Tigers, Wynnum Manly Seagulls and Redcliffe Dolphins are strong and their Leagues Clubs are bigger than Broncos Leagues. Redcliffe are already one of the richest clubs in the NRL.
Yeah, and as pointed out by
@Canard , a person who was actually alive and in Queensland for that period, that devastated the support of the BRL clubs.
That's history. It's a shame it happened but it is what it is.
The poorest NRL clubs are from Sydney. Clubs like Cronulla rely on the annual grant from the NRL to stay afloat as they only generate $4m per annum from sponsorship and take home little from gate receipts as their crowds are tiny.
The clubs that need bailing out aren't from Sydney.
They should probably stop needing bailing out.
I seriously doubt you've lived here for long if you don't think bayside suburbs like Wynnum don't have a "distinct regional identity".
The people of Wynnum do not have a particular amazingly unique identity dude. They live near Moreton Bay, whoopedy f**king-do. Come to Sydney and spend some time in the Shire or the Hills district if you want to experience a "distinct" regional identity.
This is just the geography of the place. Sydney is ripped up by big bodies of water that have forged some unique areas. It's also fairly older than Brisbane and developed along the harbour and the bay before transport made moving between parts of the city easier, which gave them unique identities that still persist. It's not anything magical about the place it's just what happens.
A few years' ago people from Wynnum wanted to become their own city. Queensland Cup games at Kougari Oval are distinctly different to any other club in the competition.
Bayside suburbs like Wynnum share more in common with Redlands than the rest of Brisbane.
It makes sense that Wynnum, an outer suburb of Brisbane on Moreton Bay, would be pretty similar to Cleveland, an outer suburb of Brisbane on Moreton. You're not exactly rocking the world with a revelation here.
Easts cover the south-eastern suburbs of Brisbane and eastern suburbs of Logan, beginning in Bulimba and extending throughout the southeastern suburbs of Carina, Holland Park, Mt Gravatt, Upper Mt Gravatt, Macgregor, Eight Mile Plains and Rochedale in Brisbane, and continue travelling from Rochedale South and Springwood in Logan's north-east down to the Flagstone and Yarrabilba in the outer south on the Logan-Gold Coast border.
These clubs play in West End and Coorparoo mate. Where is the dividing line between those two. You've just listed a bunch of suburbs further out from the city centre than where they play.
I lived in Underwood for years and worked at the Glen. In all honesty I saw more Rochedale Rovers gear than I ever did any Souths gear.
I never said they were sold out from 1988-onwards.
Good thing they weren't sold out before 1988, which is what I said, and which is why the video I chose was from 1987, and the years before also didn't see sellouts every season for the BRL Grand final.
You need to start actually reading posts instead of imagining what's there.
Now you're just being semantic.
No, There really is a massive difference between 'tons of' and several, and substituting one for the other comes across as either profoundly stupid or very disingenuous.
Linguistically, these two are not remotely synonyms, and pretending otherwise is pretty poor form.
Bullshit!
Raiders had better attendances on 6 of the 10 seasons we were comparing. Crushers had better attendances in 2 of their 3 seasons. Warriors had better attendances 4 times out of 5. Reds had better attendances in one of their 3 seasons. Rams had better attendances in one of their 2 seasons. That means the Crushers/Raiders/Reds/Rams/Warriors had better attendances than the Bears 14 times while Bears only came out on top 9 times.
Try again.
Work on your maths
Sounds to me like a number greater than 2 averaged out of those years.
That's several.
Looks like you're stuck in remedial maths with me mate.
You're so stupid you cannot navigate the Cowboys' site?
Yes.
Now do you have a link?
