Peter V'landys - New NRL/ARLC Chairman

[Wb1234]

As long as it doesn’t affect their pay packets

 

[MugaB]

As long as it doesn’t affect their pay packets

It most certainly will, clubs want 12 home games a season, can't do that in a 22 round comp, have to be 11 home games to achieve that, besides only the cream of the crop get selected for state of origin, the rest (the bulk) get a rest anyways, same as finals half the comp rests for a month before heading into an Pacific championship, these guys pleading the athletes case are only using the 1% who want to be there anyways, its complete garbage, and another negotiation tactic to get more money for less work, same greedy pigs at the troph, just like last time

 

[T-Boon]

As long as it doesn’t affect their pay packets

They need to reduce the preseason way down. No need for them to be back training in October training for 5 months. They should be at university, Tafe, travelling or getting work experience.

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

I actually think it is a great idea (assuming we cut the salary cap by that proportion)

put the extra cash into rep payments and promote that to players as the way to make the extra money.

 

[Jamberoo]

First step is 23 games - 11 x home/away plus Magic Round.

 

[Tigers1986]

Once we hit 20 teams, the balanced draw will be successful. For the sake of the draw, everyone is split into 1 of 4 divisions. You play everyone in your division twice (8 games), plus everybody else (15 games) for 23 games. 11 home, 11 away, with magic round. 4 week rep/bye window mid-season for the origin series, pacific challenge etc. When the NRL season pauses, you start the NRLW season in the prime timeslots and maybe put on NSW Cup/Qld Cup around the origin games.

Divisions can be made up through club preferences - traditional rivals and geographical reasons, plus good rating games.

Example divisions:
1: Wests Tigers, Penrith, Parramatta, Canterbury, Newcastle
2: Souths, Easts, Manly, Cronulla, St George
3: Brisbane, Gold Coast, Dolphins, North Queensland, PNG
4: Warriors, Melbourne, Canberra, Team 19 (Perth), Team 20(NZ2)

 

[Chimp]

Once we hit 20 teams, the balanced draw will be successful. For the sake of the draw, everyone is split into 1 of 4 divisions. You play everyone in your division twice (8 games), plus everybody else (15 games) for 23 games. 11 home, 11 away, with magic round. 4 week rep/bye window mid-season for the origin series, pacific challenge etc. When the NRL season pauses, you start the NRLW season in the prime timeslots and maybe put on NSW Cup/Qld Cup around the origin games.

Divisions can be made up through club preferences - traditional rivals and geographical reasons, plus good rating games.

Example divisions:
1: Wests Tigers, Penrith, Parramatta, Canterbury, Newcastle
2: Souths, Easts, Manly, Cronulla, St George
3: Brisbane, Gold Coast, Dolphins, North Queensland, PNG
4: Warriors, Melbourne, Canberra, Team 19 (Perth), Team 20(NZ2)

That’s the way….. group 4 teams will be pissed, but in reality, they have to travel anyway, so….

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Once we hit 20 teams, the balanced draw will be successful. For the sake of the draw, everyone is split into 1 of 4 divisions. You play everyone in your division twice (8 games), plus everybody else (15 games) for 23 games. 11 home, 11 away, with magic round. 4 week rep/bye window mid-season for the origin series, pacific challenge etc. When the NRL season pauses, you start the NRLW season in the prime timeslots and maybe put on NSW Cup/Qld Cup around the origin games.

Divisions can be made up through club preferences - traditional rivals and geographical reasons, plus good rating games.

Example divisions:
1: Wests Tigers, Penrith, Parramatta, Canterbury, Newcastle
2: Souths, Easts, Manly, Cronulla, St George
3: Brisbane, Gold Coast, Dolphins, North Queensland, PNG
4: Warriors, Melbourne, Canberra, Team 19 (Perth), Team 20(NZ2)

The Perth-NZ travel leg is quite a distance to make them do it twice. Not sure what the answer is, though

 

[Vee]

Once we hit 20 teams, the balanced draw will be successful. For the sake of the draw, everyone is split into 1 of 4 divisions. You play everyone in your division twice (8 games), plus everybody else (15 games) for 23 games. 11 home, 11 away, with magic round. 4 week rep/bye window mid-season for the origin series, pacific challenge etc. When the NRL season pauses, you start the NRLW season in the prime timeslots and maybe put on NSW Cup/Qld Cup around the origin games.

Divisions can be made up through club preferences - traditional rivals and geographical reasons, plus good rating games.

Example divisions:
1: Wests Tigers, Penrith, Parramatta, Canterbury, Newcastle
2: Souths, Easts, Manly, Cronulla, St George
3: Brisbane, Gold Coast, Dolphins, North Queensland, PNG
4: Warriors, Melbourne, Canberra, Team 19 (Perth), Team 20(NZ2)

And there's the Sydney-centric system again.

 

[johnny plath]

The Perth-NZ travel leg is quite a distance to make them do it twice. Not sure what the answer is, though

Easy.. don't put them in the same group

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

The Perth-NZ travel leg is quite a distance to make them do it twice. Not sure what the answer is, though

I think I have it.

you create groups centred around one location. 3 teams are local and 4 have to travel. You still get the rivalries but you balance the travel.

Brisbane-Centric (obviously)

1. Brisbane Broncos
2. Gold Coast Titans
3. Dolphins
+
4. North Queensland Cowboys
5. PNG (Papua New Guinea)

South Sydney (centred around the airport)

1. South Sydney Rabbitohs
2. Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks
3. St. George Illawarra Dragons
+
4. New Zealand Warriors
5. NZ2 (Second New Zealand team)

West Sydney-Centric (Storm is an Awkward fit but they have played GFs against 3 of the teams, so rivalries are there…)

1. Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs
2. Penrith Panthers
3. Parramatta Eels
+
4. Canberra Raiders
5. Melbourne Storm

East/North Sydney-Centric

1. Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
2. Sydney Roosters
3. Wests Tigers
+
4. Newcastle Knights
5. Perth Bears

Canberra and Melbourne are a bit awkward to fit, but it is just too good with the Bears in the Manly/Roosters/Knights comp

 

[siv]

Once we hit 20 teams, the balanced draw will be successful. For the sake of the draw, everyone is split into 1 of 4 divisions. You play everyone in your division twice (8 games), plus everybody else (15 games) for 23 games. 11 home, 11 away, with magic round. 4 week rep/bye window mid-season for the origin series, pacific challenge etc. When the NRL season pauses, you start the NRLW season in the prime timeslots and maybe put on NSW Cup/Qld Cup around the origin games.

Divisions can be made up through club preferences - traditional rivals and geographical reasons, plus good rating games.

Example divisions:
1: Wests Tigers, Penrith, Parramatta, Canterbury, Newcastle
2: Souths, Easts, Manly, Cronulla, St George
3: Brisbane, Gold Coast, Dolphins, North Queensland, PNG
4: Warriors, Melbourne, Canberra, Team 19 (Perth), Team 20(NZ2)

Two groups of 10

Sydney conference
Regional conference

You play your conference twice home and away over 1 year

You play your cross conference games home & away over 2 years

28 rounds then Top 8 as per normal based on combined competition table..No SOO byes

 

[Jetka100]

The Perth-NZ travel leg is quite a distance to make them do it twice. Not sure what the answer is, though

It is only 1 team travelling though

 

[Iamback]

And there's the Sydney-centric system again.

You don't think as a Club your team would love to ensure they get a home game v Broncs and the Other QLD teams every year?

 

[kurt faulk]

I think I have it.

you create groups centred around one location. 3 teams are local and 4 have to travel. You still get the rivalries but you balance the travel.

Brisbane-Centric (obviously)

1. Brisbane Broncos
2. Gold Coast Titans
3. Dolphins
+
4. North Queensland Cowboys
5. PNG (Papua New Guinea)

South Sydney (centred around the airport)

1. South Sydney Rabbitohs
2. Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks
3. St. George Illawarra Dragons
+
4. New Zealand Warriors
5. NZ2 (Second New Zealand team)

West Sydney-Centric (Storm is an Awkward fit but they have played GFs against 3 of the teams, so rivalries are there…)

1. Canterbury-Bankstown Bulldogs
2. Penrith Panthers
3. Parramatta Eels
+
4. Canberra Raiders
5. Melbourne Storm

East/North Sydney-Centric

1. Manly Warringah Sea Eagles
2. Sydney Roosters
3. Wests Tigers
+
4. Newcastle Knights
5. Perth Bears

Canberra and Melbourne are a bit awkward to fit, but it is just too good with the Bears in the Manly/Roosters/Knights comp

Looks good but souffs need to be with the chickens. Just the way it is.

Tigers move to Penriff and eels.

Dogs move to the saints and the scum.

.

 

[siv]

The Perth-NZ travel leg is quite a distance to make them do it twice. Not sure what the answer is, though

Perth, Warriors, PNG, Storm, Canberra all will travel, more than 2 hours, to EVERY away game. So pool structure doesn't effect them

No matter what version of the draw you entertain

NRL will want Nth Qld, Broncos, Gold Coast & Dolphins in the same pool too. So this is basis of the Regional or Qld pool.

Storm are a defacto Qld team with their links in Brisbane Easts, and Sunshine Coast

PNG will want 2 games v Nth Qld and Warriors, thats 7 teams already

Throw in Canberra and that's 8

Either NZ2 or Brisbane 3 would be in this pool too, that's 9

So who should be lucky last?

 

[Vee]

You don't think as a Club your team would love to ensure they get a home game v Broncs and the Other QLD teams every year?

Probably. But the travel advantages will skew the comp more the longer they are propagated.

 

[Iamback]

Probably. But the travel advantages will skew the comp more the longer they are propagated.

Yeah but that is the case for all the regional teams anyway. Most years Sydney teams only have a handful of interstate games.

So knowing that. I'd rather keep the clubs/TV happy by having local games that rate better.

Teams with soft draws will be found out come finals time anyway

 

[Tigers1986]

And there's the Sydney-centric system again.

With 11 of the proposed 20 teams, um, yes? You'll never see Souths/Easts for example not agree to playing twice each season.

Not sure what the fairest model is though. 19 games outright plus 5 pre-selected "rivals" negates the needs for divisions anyway and gives you 24 games.

 

[Chins get the wins]

Once we hit 20 teams, the balanced draw will be successful. For the sake of the draw, everyone is split into 1 of 4 divisions. You play everyone in your division twice (8 games), plus everybody else (15 games) for 23 games. 11 home, 11 away, with magic round. 4 week rep/bye window mid-season for the origin series, pacific challenge etc. When the NRL season pauses, you start the NRLW season in the prime timeslots and maybe put on NSW Cup/Qld Cup around the origin games.

Divisions can be made up through club preferences - traditional rivals and geographical reasons, plus good rating games.

Example divisions:
1: Wests Tigers, Penrith, Parramatta, Canterbury, Newcastle
2: Souths, Easts, Manly, Cronulla, St George
3: Brisbane, Gold Coast, Dolphins, North Queensland, PNG
4: Warriors, Melbourne, Canberra, Team 19 (Perth), Team 20(NZ2)

No divisions ever. We are already the hardest sport in the world. Let's also be one of the fairest, 20 teams and 19 rounds