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Phil Rothfield

Mickyd39

Juniors
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I'm amazed at how many people have been sucked in by this idiot. They think he is some kind of hero, what these people don't realise is that he never reacted this way when there were DV incidents under the watch of his mate Gallop. Gordon, Inglis, Lui and Bird not one article from him asking for life bans.
 

oikee

Juniors
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The NRL should write up a list of all this clown's behaviour towards the code,(here are a few off the top of my head),
supporting the wanderers, reporting crowd figures which have proved false, knocking his own club, running the code down and always reporting negative stories.

The NRL should issue a statement with intent not to deal with reporters who constantly strive to put the code dowm.
Bettroot head, D.Weedler and even Hooper if he keeps looking for all the games negatives should all be put on notice.
Ben Teo left the code because of these parasites. We dont want to lose anymore, and heads need to roll.
There is no need to try to keep stories alive for weeks, and that is the problem we have with league reporters. They are conditioned, like our refs to make the same mistakes every week.
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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people should contact white ribbon and set them straight about Rothfield

the man makes me sick using this incident just to have a go at Smith because of the Gallen fine

if Rothfield cared then he wouldn't have stayed silent for 6 months
 

carcharias

Immortal
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look at all you dicks crying about him .

why do you read his rubbish?

he is laughing at you.

Just ignore the f**king idiot.
 

Starkers

Bench
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no way man. not reading something that is clearly an attack on the game by a vengeful and agenda driven scribe is not an option. the fans and the game deserve way better than this rubbish and the only way we'll get better is to complain. to me, he looks so unhinged, it can only be a matter of time until he's tapped on the shoulder at news.
 

carcharias

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have you read any other journo's stuff?

They are all the bloody same.

I actually heard Hooper on triple M bag out danny weidler saying he was only after sensationalistic type stories.
Not sure of that is a word by the way.
Hooper bags weidler for doing the exact same thing he does....only difference is weidler can do it on his own and at least has the cajones to confront players in person.

They are all f**ked.
 

gUt

Coach
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no way man. not reading something that is clearly an attack on the game by a vengeful and agenda driven scribe is not an option. the fans and the game deserve way better than this rubbish and the only way we'll get better is to complain. to me, he looks so unhinged, it can only be a matter of time until he's tapped on the shoulder at news.

I don't agree, I think he is doing exactly what News wants - what News does in all its content. They appeal to the lowest emotions by deliberately provoking shock and outrage. He doesn't care how he's perceived so long as he's getting attention and earning News article hits.
 

Starkers

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not all of them are bad, but a lot are. i can't see how he can continue this angle though. the punters on the website disagreeing with him outnumber the ones in agreement by about 4:1. he's clearly damaging relations between news and the NRL and surely at some point he becomes useless at news because he's not greasing the right wheels and not getting scoops. then, chop.
 

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First Grade
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not all of them are bad, but a lot are. i can't see how he can continue this angle though. the punters on the website disagreeing with him outnumber the ones in agreement by about 4:1. he's clearly damaging relations between news and the NRL and surely at some point he becomes useless at news because he's not greasing the right wheels and not getting scoops. then, chop.

But they are all reading it and commenting, that's why he's News Corps Sports Journalist of the year, he's paid to be a divisive troll.
 

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First Grade
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have you read any other journo's stuff?

They are all the bloody same.

I actually heard Hooper on triple M bag out danny weidler saying he was only after sensationalistic type stories.
Not sure of that is a word by the way.
Hooper bags weidler for doing the exact same thing he does....only difference is weidler can do it on his own and at least has the cajones to confront players in person.

They are all f**ked.

Rubbish, weidler is a leech, he sucks up to certain players for affection and because no one else will talk to him they are the only ones left to write about, that's why he hasn't written a column without referring to Mundine, SBW or Khoder for close to 10 years.
 

carcharias

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Rubbish, weidler is a leech, he sucks up to certain players for affection and because no one else will talk to him they are the only ones left to write about, that's why he hasn't written a column without referring to Mundine, SBW or Khoder for close to 10 years.

which part is rubbish?
 
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As regards slothfield lets not forget he has an agenda to here to oust Dave Smith. Nothing more nothing less.
The reason Sloth didn't like the way he's old mate Gallop was ousted from the NRL.
Did The sloth speak out against domestic violence when Gallop run the show? If he did i can't remember.
 

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The truth and hearsay in the Kirisome Auva’a case

“There can be no higher law in journalism than to tell the truth and to shame the devil.”
Walter Lippmann
It is a sad indictment of the Australian media when a member of the public feels obliged to contribute to the news cycle through an article of their own in a desperate attempt to inject balance into the public domain.
The Kirisome Auva’a case has ignited accusations against the NRL of cover-up and ambivalence toward domestic violence. Such a perception has been crafted not by meticulous facts and balance of reporting, but by their absence.
It is only through these fundamental qualities that the Fourth Estate separates itself from the unacquainted voices of the masses, voices upon which are consequently formed by and reliant on this same institution perceived to be legitimate.
It is in the spirit of this foundation that I will attempt to present a series of facts upon which others may judge to form a unadulterated conclusion on the weeks events.
On the 28th of May 2014 Kirisome Auva’a pleaded guilty in a Victorian court to charges of Recklessly Cause Injury and Criminal Damage (Intent Damage/Destroy) for an incident which occurred in January of this year. The player informed his club, South Sydney, of the incident on the 18th of January and the club subsequently fined him $2000 and suspended him from training for one week.
The Rabbitohs issued a press release on the 28th of May to confirm Auva’a’s guilty plea and state that the court proceeding had been adjourned by the magistrate for six months until November 7, during which time Auva’a would be compelled to follow the court’s instructions.
This was not made in secret and including South Sydney’s press release, was widely reported at the time of the plea.
It is now important to note the NRL’s obligations enshrined in the NRL Code of Conduct relating to Criminal Proceedings.
Rule 46, sub-Rule (1) states “(w)here the breach of a provision of this Code involving a Player or a Club has occurred, and the conduct constituting that breach is the subject of a investigation or criminal proceeding, the Chief Executive Officer shall not against that Player or Club Official pursuant to Part 2 of the NRL Rules until the conclusion of that investigation or proceeding, as the case may be, unless the Chief Executive Officer forms the view, in his absolute discretion, that it is appropriate to do so.”
Rule 46 continues in sub-Rule (2) which states “(t)o remove any doubt: The purpose of sub-Rule (1) is to ensure, so far as possible, that any criminal proceedings against a Player or Club Official are taken and concluded before proceedings for the breach of a provision of this Code are commenced.”
The NRL is bound not to intervene with a penalty under the Code of Conduct while a player is the subject of a open court proceeding, as was the case with Kirisome Auva’a. Auva’a despite pleading guilty on May 28, had his court proceeding adjourned until Friday November 7.
While the code does allow for discretion from the NRL CEO to sanction a player before a court proceeding has concluded, it would be inappropriate in a case such as Auva’a’s where the NRL does not have access to court documents to determine an adequate penalty based on the crime Auva’a had pleaded guilty to.
Such ambiguity in detail would leave the NRL open to future accusations of being either too lenient or too harsh once sentencing has concluded and full details of the case are disclosed to the NRL.
A preemptive penalty by the NRL also has the potential to prejudice the sentencing process. These enshrined rules within the NRL Code of Conduct are designed to protect both the NRL and the players and is a crucial element in any serious evaluation of the appropriateness of the NRL’s response to a player found guilty of domestic violence.
With the court proceedings now concluded, and the NRL free to pursue a penalty against Auva’a, the NRL have been accused of playing catch-up.
However, any examination of the sequence of events since Friday’s sentencing concluded suggests, rather than being provoked into action by the media, the NRL were already anticipating a penalty by arranging discussions with South Sydney to consult on a sanction.
As reported by the Daily Telegraph’s James Hooper on the eighth of November, the day after court proceedings had finalised, “(t)he NRL wants to meet South Sydney officials to discuss further sanctions, with the governing body to consider suspending Auva’a from matches next season and issuing a further fine.”
Clearly it is a statement at odds with reporting from the Daily Telegraph’s Phil Rothfield in the days that followed, which accused the NRL of ignoring domestic violence and insinuating a cover-up.
This article was only intended to bring balance and detail to a story that has severely lacked it. It is up to the public to come to their own conclusions based on the entirety of the facts, do they want expediency or do they want due process.
The reporting on the case has highlighted a demise of journalistic ethics in some corners at a time when the fragmentation of information sources is greater than ever before, The Roar is but only one example.
Perceived legitimacy is the market advantage of the traditional print media in a highly competitive online market for news and information.
However, if the public is to continue to view Australia’s traditional print media as legitimate in the future it has to be able to trust what they are reading is balanced, truthful and accurate. Anything short of that and it is the end of a once great institution.

http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/11/14/the-truth-and-hearsay-in-the-kirisome-auvaa-case/
 

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First Grade
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he NRL has been criticised in some quarters for allowing Auva'a to continue playing after he entered a guilty plea on May 28 to charges of recklessly causing injury and assault and two counts of criminal damage.

However, allegations of a cover-up are unfounded as a Rabbitohs news release issued that day stated that Auva'a had pleaded guilty to the charges and the case was adjourned until November, with Magistrate Kate Hawkins recommending that Auva'a attend a weekly change in behaviour course, as well as supporting and working with the White Ribbon campaign.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...rom-the-nrl-indefinitely-20141113-11maoo.html
 

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First Grade
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are you related to this f**kin c**k smoker?

never seen anyone stick up for a woman basher as much.

I haven't defended him once, I have defended the process behind determining his penalty against unbalanced and misleading reporting, the fact you can't tell the difference speaks volumes about your intellect.
 

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First Grade
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if he didn't belt the girl there would not have been any reporting.
don't blame them.

The blame is not mutually exclusive, Auvv'a deserves everything he gets and Rothfield should have been balanced in his reporting and include all the facts instead of deliberately misleading people into thinking the NRL covered it up. The NRL followed a clear process in their code of conduct and don't deserve any of the blame.
 
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