I didn't get a bad ATAR at all (which was last year, at Macquarie Uni now). But the way the education system tried to make you think your HSC is almost the be all and end all of your future was laughable ( I attended Kogarah Marist, just like Ginnane). I find it hard to believe that what you did as a less mature teenager, where your decision making and discipline is usually not at optimum level, can determine where you are going to go in life. Yes, getting a 99.9 makes things a lot easier, but in my opinion, you had to sacrifice too much in your schooling years to achieve that, unless you're a genius brain child, and all the stress really isn't worth it. I know this girl who had a limited social life because she worked so hard in school, and has now let loose. You can say that she's become a bit too easy, because she's trying to catch up on all the stuff she missed out on. Once you hit uni, people don't give a f*** about what ATAR you got anymore. It's basically become a long lost topic of discussion, and you sound lame when you are really interested to know what ATAR someone got in their HSC.