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Phillip Hughes has passed away at the age of 25

Bazal

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I honestly don't think you've ever worn a full face grill to be able to make such a call. I played ice and inline hockey with a full face grill for 5 years and never had a problem seeing where I was going or where the puck was. Our goalies certainly didn't have any vision issues either. We played inline in summer, which was generally in factories with no AC in full pads. Obviously our game time wasn't as long but I'd wager we'd lose more body weight in fluid in a 1 hour game of inline than a cricketer would lose batting for a day (ridiculously sweaty sport).


I suppose the bouncer in cricket is just its version of the shoulder charge in league. The shoulder charge got run out of the game due to supposed risk of lawsuits through concussion related injuries. Can't see why the same won't happen to the bouncer in cricket in the long term.
Field hockey goalie for two seasons before I got jack of it and played upfield. It's totally non comparable....different balls, different trajectories. But I can see you haven't played very much cricket at all so why don't you just accept that personally I know my own game and I can often lose the ball in my grill, so I have it wide.

Also, in 20 years, I have never seen anything as bad as Phil Hughes. It's a freak accident and like I said, trying to find blame for it is like finding blame when lightning strikes
 

TheParraboy

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Just on ch10 news sport, was reported latest scans haven't shown any improvement in Phil unfortunately

still we need to wait
 

TheParraboy

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There is very little wrong with helmet design. You are seemingly desperate to place blame for a freak occurrence. Banning bouncers is not the answer either, it's a knee jerk overreaction.

Personally i would stop wearing helmets were the visors more restrictive. The way I see it, I'm more likely to get hit if I'm struggling to see the ball behind an overgrown and unnecessary visor. Baseball style helmets aren't the answer either...it's hard enough to bat time in a current helmet without getting heat stroke

Fact is this could happen regardless and is nothing more preventable than being hit by lighting. You can minimise the risk, but I've seen fractured skulls through a helmet. Sometimes shit happens.

Just reading your reply mate, clearly you don't watch much cricket or have played it. Take away the bouncer and you take away a massive armoury of a quick bowler. Everyone will just be propping on the foot all day without fear of copping one around the ears. Bowlers do it tough enough already.


I work in the cricket industry and Masuri make the best helmets in the world, even with last years model they are still the best of the best. By the look of that footage i doubt the new helmet would have made much difference. It was a freak accident, banning the bouncer would be changing the fabric of the game. Plus there is nothing better than watching a batsman take on fast short pitched bowling. I seriously doubt the rules will be changed at all.

well said guys

You ban the bouncer you may as well ban the keeper standing up to the stumps to anyone not a spinner, and ban any fielder fielding close in while your at it.

Hell you may as well make every fielder wear a helmet well if you want to think about freakish accidents that can occur
 

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The bouncer is actually Australia's main weapon in the upcoming series against India,Mitchell Johnson's whole game plan for months would be to bowl fast and short in order to rough up the Indian batsmen as there not used to it on quicker pitches,Mitchell Johnson bowling fast and short helps out his bowling buddies like Siddle/Harris as they will follow up with consistent line and length,If you ban the bouncer we may as well just pick 4 spinners in future and let India post a total of 8 million.
 

jargan83

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All this talk of banning the bouncer is utter nonsense.

It was a freak accident that happened to Phil Hughes, the worst I've seen in 25 odd years of watching Cricket.

Last year one of my team mates suffered a fractured skull after being hit flush on the helmet. Helmets are not the be all end all of protective equipment, I wore one myself for about 8 years but these days it rarely comes out of the kit bag. I've almost been hit but just find it too uncomfortable to wear.

I was the Under 15's coach at my Cricket club back in 05/06 and was surprised to find out that helmets were not mandatory, I still occasionally help out with the juniors and the association still has not made them compulsory.
 

8Ball

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Sensible for CA to abandon all matches immediately. It is also good to see all the comments on cricinfo from the international cricket fans wishing Phil well. The only thing left is for him to recover. I find myself refreshing websites constantly hoping for good news..
 
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Wishing Phil all the best,i guess we all have to be patient and take comfort in that he is in the best of care.
Unfortunately the 'best' can not be said for some of the media covering this sensitive matter.The film crew who tried to pry on Phil's distressed friends at the hospital, and then who attempted to approach the NSW team members at the SCG have stooped to a class lower than what you expect from the 'bottom feeders'of the press the paparazzi.
 

blaza88z

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I would love to know how Ten can say with conviction that he hasn't improved

given I watched the Cricket Australia doctor say that there was no change to his condition, that means he hasn't improved or he hasn't gotten worse - nothing has changed
 

Rabbits20

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I'm just lost for words about it to be honest.

Absolutely terrible.

Really I'm just hoping like we all are.

Also you can't ban the bouncer. Like PB said there are many things that are dangerous in Cricket.
 

Cletus

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I would love to know how Ten can say with conviction that he hasn't improved

given I watched the Cricket Australia doctor say that there was no change to his condition, that means he hasn't improved or he hasn't gotten worse - nothing has changed

As far as I understand it the CA doctor was going to update the media on the results of brain scans around 5pm. I haven't heard the results from the CA doctor but that's what he said, and I'm assuming Ch 10 are reporting based on that. Anyway best wishes to Hughes and the media has been known to be wrong in the past.
 

Y2Eel

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Thanks whoever deleted that post..

Phil Hughes you are in our prayers.. No matter if you believe in the greater or not...
 

veggiepatch1959

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Sorry for this but I'm not very optimistic about a good outcome after all this.

Anyway, best wishes to Phil and his family, friends and teammates.
 

Diesel

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I agree, that post made me sick.

Praying for all the best to Phil for a speedy recovery
 

8Ball

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Just for anyone who is interested...

Phillip Hughes remains in a critical condition in an induced coma at Sydney's St Vincent's Hospital tonight.

Confusion over when Sydney Cricket Ground officials called for an ambulance was cleared up late this afternoon after NSW Ambulance said that the first call was made by ground staff at 2.29pm and not 2:37pm as it had earlier said. Hughes collapsed after being struck by a bouncer at around 2.23pm on Tuesday.

Sean Abbott - who delivered the ball which felled Hughes is the focus of concerns for his well-being and playing future.

All NSW and South Australian players are receiving counselling and psychological support.

The Australian Cricketers' Association said it was monitoring Abbott closely.

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/Home/Ph...OWDOWN_NRL_article_philliphugheslatest_261114
 

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