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Player comments - need a rebuild

Dragon David

First Grade
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After the loss Graham looked shattered and in the change rooms his jumper was pulled over his face
I know he never dishes it out when asked about the club
But to me he looked shattered
He leaves nothing on the field.
Graham's look and the jersey over his face in the dressing room shows that he is extremely despondent and puzzled with the way that the team is playing and embarrassed at the same time with how poorly things are going. His time at the Dragons has not been a pleasant one unfortunately. He continues to try but he is not the same guy as the one who came to play at the Bulldogs.
 

Gippsy

Bench
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4,817
Getting some of those old plodders mentioned in the article would be a disaster. Save the pennies and buy youth. Start with our own, Saab, Ramsay, Feagai's, Ford, Sullivan, Blacker etc and chuck them in this year for experience. Then raid some youngsters at other clubs and try and pick up a Papenhuzen, Burton, Chrichton etc. Keep a few older heads and build for the future.
 

NRLMad

Juniors
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875
Getting some of those old plodders mentioned in the article would be a disaster. Save the pennies and buy youth. Start with our own, Saab, Ramsay, Feagai's, Ford, Sullivan, Blacker etc and chuck them in this year for experience. Then raid some youngsters at other clubs and try and pick up a Papenhuzen, Burton, Chrichton etc. Keep a few older heads and build for the future.
Ramsay and maybe Saab on the wings, bring in the young centres, why is Tyrell not playing and what about the young big bopper prop we have - give him a go?

why does McGregor insist on aitken? Can’t pass can’t tackle blames anyone around him

what about dufty? Love child?

what about Vaughan? Like why is everyone not looking at his lack of impact?

graham is old and has busted knees and he still tries the rest are mugs
 

possm

Coach
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15,902
Looking at the list of players off-contract end 2020 and dividing them up into backs and forwards:

Backs:
Aitken, Lafai, Ravalawa, Sailor

Forwards:
DeBelin, Frizell (already gone), Graham, Host, Kerr (has player option for 2021), Lovodua, Luke

Unknown :
Dufty (although contracted to 2021)
Saab (although contracted to 2022)
Kerr (will he take up his option, particularly if a larger contract comes up)
Anyone else?

In any case the list for 2020 is not an inspiring one. As for the backs, maybe Sailor is worth trying to re-sign. The others can go. In the forwards, Kerr is about it.

Imo, we need to looking at:
A fullback
A lock
2 props
At a minimum, however, unless the road is clear of who our ciach will be, noone will come here unlrss its for their final 'pension' contract.

Urgency is needed, not uncertainty.
NRL player replacements for 2021 should be like for like or better.

Forwards to leave the Club
De Belin 550k
Frizell 600k
Graham 400k
K Sims 300k
$1.85m


Backs to leave the Club
Aiken 350k
Lafai 450k
Ravalawa 250k
Dufty 350k
Norman 800k
$2.2m


Likely 17 for 2021

1. Fullback; New Signing 900k, Ramsey
2. Left wing: Ramsey, Sailor, Pereira
3. Right centre; Lomax, Feagai
4. Williame, Feagai
5. Saab, Feagai
6. Sullivan, Sailor, Hunt
7. Clune, Sailor, Hunt
8. New prop 700k, Kerr

9. Hunt, McInnes
10. Vaughan, Lawrie, Blacker
11. T Sims, Host
12. New backrower 900k - maybe D Fifita, Ford

13. McInnes, Merrin

So, aproximately $4m to spend on 3 new marquee players (aprox. 2.6m) plus upgrades to promoted players; Ramsey, Max Peagai, Matt Peagai, Saab, Clune, Sullivan, Sailor and Blacker (aprox. $1.4m).


Now there you go Millward, all the work is done for you. Just go and earn your keep and make it happen!
 

possm

Coach
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Seriously if we sign Tamou that'll do me.
Evans is doing a good job off the bench at the moment but playing in a good side in form is a bonus. Not sure he's a gun starting prop.
In the forwards we just need two marquee forwards to replace Frizell and Graham. McInnes can go to lock and Hunt to hooker.

In the backs we just need a marquee fullback and promote some good young juniors who will be ready in 2021. Ramsey, Sailor, the Peagai brothers, Saab, Clune and Sullivan.

Main thing is that we need to find a way to sack Mary and hire Bennett to oversea the this young team.
 

piesplusreturns

Juniors
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96
Anyone know if the club was granted any cap relief this year for de belin and if they did how they spent it? Also approx how much de belin would be on?
 

Forbes Creek Dragons

First Grade
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5,078
Anyone know if the club was granted any cap relief this year for de belin and if they did how they spent it? Also approx how much de belin would be on?
I doubt they would take it because he's going to court soon and talk is it could get thrown out of court, probably an incredibly low chance but I doubt they will find someone decent willing to come for just one year anyway so I guess they are just resigned to either a miracle happening and Jack back or ride the season out and be in position to resign him next year or put the money towards someone of similar price.
 

Crush

Coach
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11,237
NRL player replacements for 2021 should be like for like or better.

Forwards to leave the Club
De Belin 550k
Frizell 600k
Graham 400k
K Sims 300k
$1.85m


Backs to leave the Club
Aiken 350k
Lafai 450k
Ravalawa 250k
Dufty 350k
Norman 800k
$2.2m


Likely 17 for 2021

1. Fullback; New Signing 900k, Ramsey
2. Left wing: Ramsey, Sailor, Pereira
3. Right centre; Lomax, Feagai
4. Williame, Feagai
5. Saab, Feagai
6. Sullivan, Sailor, Hunt
7. Clune, Sailor, Hunt
8. New prop 700k, Kerr

9. Hunt, McInnes
10. Vaughan, Lawrie, Blacker
11. T Sims, Host
12. New backrower 900k - maybe D Fifita, Ford

13. McInnes, Merrin

So, aproximately $4m to spend on 3 new marquee players (aprox. 2.6m) plus upgrades to promoted players; Ramsey, Max Peagai, Matt Peagai, Saab, Clune, Sullivan, Sailor and Blacker (aprox. $1.4m).


Now there you go Millward, all the work is done for you. Just go and earn your keep and make it happen!
Lol
 

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