PLEASE NRL DON'T FOLLOW US BRITS WITH THIS.

[Iamback]

Huh? They've made a shitload of changes.

2023​

• Expands Impermissible Use of the Helmet, making it a foul for players to use their helmet to "butt, ram, spear" or make forcible contact to opponents' head or neck area in any way. This builds on the existing Impermissible Use of the Helmet rules which prohibits a player from lowering his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent.

2020​

• Expands defenseless player protection to include a kickoff or punt returner who will now be afforded the same protection as a pass receiver – both before, during, and after the opportunity to receive the kick. The protection extends until he can avoid or ward off impending contact from an opponent.
• Emphasizes removing certain illegal techniques from line play, such as using the helmet as part of a bull rush, or any block by an offensive lineman that involves initiating contact with the helmet. Game officials will continue to focus on identifying fouls in line play, specifically mobile blocks, cut blocks, and certain pass rush techniques, where initiating contact with the helmet occurs.

2018​

• It is a foul if a player lowers his head to initiate and make contact with his helmet against an opponent. It is a penalty that will result in the loss of 15 yards. If the foul is by the defense, it is also an automatic first down. The player may be disqualified.

2017​

• Gives a receiver running a pass route defenseless player protection.
• Prohibits crackback blocks by a backfield player who is in motion, even if he is not more than two yards outside the tackle when the ball is snapped.

2015​

• Defenseless player protections are expanded to cover the intended receiver of a pass in the immediate continuing action following an interception.

2013​

• It is illegal for a runner or tackler to initiate forcible contact by delivering a blow with the top or crown of his helmet against an opponent when both players are clearly outside the tackle box.

2012​

• The list of "defenseless players" is expanded to include defensive players on crackback blocks, making it illegal to hit them in the head or neck area.

2010​

• A player who has just completed a catch is protected from blows to the head or neck by an opponent who launches.
• All "defenseless players" are protected from blows to the head delivered by an opponent's helmet, forearm or shoulder.
• Kickers and punters during the kick and return, and quarterbacks after a change of possession, are protected from blows to the head delivered by an opponent's helmet, forearm or shoulder, instead of just helmet-to-helmet contact.
• The ball is declared dead at the spot if a runner's helmet comes completely off.

2009​

• It is an illegal "blindside" block if the blocker is moving toward his own endline and approaches the opponent from behind or from the side, and the initial force of the contact by the blocker's helmet, forearm or shoulder is to the head or neck area of an opponent.
• It is an illegal hit on a defenseless receiver if the initial force of the contact by the defender's helmet, forearm or shoulder is to the head or neck area of the receiver.

NFL Health and Safety Related Rules Changes Since 2002

All of whom can be summed up by no contact with the head or neck full stop.

They don't change the core of the game as a 5m rule or letting players only tackle waist down in RL

 

[Iamback]

Until Penrith win a few more comps under the current rules

You don't want to see free flowing footy?

 

[Wb1234]

You don't want to see free flowing footy?

Todays feee flowing footy is a shadow of the past

Perth red nailed it too much easy space out of dummy half running

 

[Iamback]

Todays feee flowing footy is a shadow of the past

Perth red nailed it too much easy space out of dummy half running

So you want to make it less free flowing by taking more space away. Before we know if we have the HIA Categories correct or the stand down period long enough?

 

[Chins get the wins]

So you want to make it less free flowing by taking more space away. Before we know if we have the HIA Categories correct or the stand down period long enough?

Morons with no idea. Today's athletes playing 5m would be comical

 

[Perth Red]

Morons with no idea. Today's athletes playing 5m would be comical

I guess if we were going to get radical we could go back to 5m and reduce to 12 players to create a bit more space? Id prefer that than tackling below the pits which will be a nightmare.

 

[Iamback]

Morons with no idea. Today's athletes playing 5m would be comical

There was a reason props could play full games back in those days

Not to mention the NRL has made it so after a 2nd failed HIA. The player goes to a specialist and gets scans.

The player than talks to the specialist. So the player isn't kept in the dark - which is the basis for the legal action.

So comparing some old guys to the current players and system isn't the logical way forward

 

[Perth Red]

There was a reason props could play full games back in those days

Not to mention the NRL has made it so after a 2nd failed HIA. The player goes to a specialist and gets scans.

The player than talks to the specialist. So the player isn't kept in the dark - which is the basis for the legal action.

So comparing some old guys to the current players and system isn't the logical way forward

Taking away the legal ramifications of litigation it still leaves the NRl needing to do as much as it can to protect players from developing a terminal illness because of their work. And to convince mums that playing RL isnt going to destroy little johnnies brain.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

The trajectory is that RL will be touch footy.

 

[Iamback]

Taking away the legal ramifications of litigation it still leaves the NRl needing to do as much as it can to protect players from developing a terminal illness because of their work. And to convince mums that playing RL isnt going to destroy little johnnies brain.

Every sport comes with some risk though. Every parent would know that we are also not going to get these injuries in junior footy.

For starters they aren't as strong in mini and mod footy so the contact is smaller, players are slower, starting to limit tackling.

The sport in fact all sports have made huge strides particularly for something no one entirely knows about

Anyone who bases what their kids play on the adult professional game is an idiot.

Even what is seen as the easiest sport soccer studies now show headers are bad.

 

[Chins get the wins]

Rugby League isn't for everyone and that's perfectly ok

 

[Maximus]

All of whom can be summed up by no contact with the head or neck full stop.

They don't change the core of the game as a 5m rule or letting players only tackle waist down in RL

Who is proposing a 5m rule or only tackling below the waist? The video that started this thread is about dropping the height down a couple of cms to below the armpits.

See this is the problem with people who oppose any change to make the game safer. You start making up bullshit to argue against.

 

[Maximus]

The trajectory is that RL will be touch footy.

So not being able to hit people in the head will mean it will become touch footy?

 

[Iamback]

Who is proposing a 5m rule or only tackling below the waist? The video that started this thread is about dropping the height down a couple of cms to below the armpits.

See this is the problem with people who oppose any change to make the game safer. You start making up bullshit to argue against.

From today's smh.

It has been trialed in Rugby. I was reported NRL was looking at it

Great you have watched the video.

Clip 6 When the player is bringing the kick off back in it. 3 players tackle him. It is marked as an illegal tackle BUT the guy carrying the ball has him arm raised.

the guy on the left ( David Mead ) of the shot is going to cop an elbow to his head.

So for such a move to be successful you need to stop ball carriers like that, That is the flow on to how the game is played needing to change

BUT RL has that rule in for u15's and we will see with the English game if it has the desired affect, That is where a coach or ex player or both should of been part of the consultation process

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

So not being able to hit people in the head will mean it will become touch footy?

without trying to sound condescending here, perhaps you might like to consider the future. All journeys begin with a step.

First tackling above a certain part of the body, then not allowing your opponent to hit the ground too hard, or allowing them to fall a certain way, or perhaps tackle too hard and cause whiplash .....and on it goes.

Short answer YES the trajectory is certainly to non body contact sports.

I see a future where heading the soccer ball is not permitted, and most body contact sport forbidden. Boxing will be an early casualty.

Unfortunately a part of living is injury and death. That's just the way it is. Dont like it play a computer game.

 

[Perth Red]

Every sport comes with some risk though. Every parent would know that we are also not going to get these injuries in junior footy.

For starters they aren't as strong in mini and mod footy so the contact is smaller, players are slower, starting to limit tackling.

The sport in fact all sports have made huge strides particularly for something no one entirely knows about

Anyone who bases what their kids play on the adult professional game is an idiot.

Even what is seen as the easiest sport soccer studies now show headers are bad.

It does indeed, but parent's will generally accept the risk a sprained ankle over a brain injury for their child.

Thats part of RL's problem, the perception has been created by professional experiences in the media that it is a dangerous game to play that can cause a terminal illness in later life. The game has done a terrible job getting on the front foot to counteract that perception.

The world is full of idiots who make decisions based on perception over evidence.

 

[Perth Red]

Unfortunately a part of living is injury and death. That's just the way it is. Dont like it play a computer game.

Dumb statement, what will happen is more and more kids will stop playing sports like RL whilst soccer and basketball take over even more.

The point about RL isnt for everyone is a pertinent one but in a world where participation rates are a pssing contest, and often Govt funding is directly linked to participation rates it does seem to matter.

 

[Dr Dr Gimedanews]

The world is full of idiots who make decisions based on perception over evidence.

You basically just described every person that consumes the utter garbage Murdoch spew out. Sitting there watching Sky News thinking the world is falling apart.

Idiots are the Murdoch cash cow.

 

[Perth Red]

You basically just described every person that consumes the utter garbage Murdoch spew out. Sitting there watching Sky News thinking the world is falling apart.

Idiots are the Murdoch cash cow.

Yep, people who watch Sky news are a big worry to the planet!

It would be very naive to think the plebians arent heavily influenced in their thinking by the media. f**k Trump became president of America! Every story of another player having dementia, every story of players suing the game, it all adds up the the parents' saying yay or nay to little micky signing on for soccer or RL.

I cant think of any counter propaganda put out by the RFL or ARLC can you?

 

[Iamback]

Dumb statement, what will happen is more and more kids will stop playing sports like RL whilst soccer and basketball take over even more.

The point about RL isnt for everyone is a pertinent one but in a world where participation rates are a pssing contest, and often Govt funding is directly linked to participation rates it does seem to matter.

Soccer will ban headers and short kids will get owned in Basketball.

The only way to truly be safe is not leave the house