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Plenty of targets for Anderson

dazeely

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Plenty of targets for Anderson, but coach holds fire as Cayless speaks out
STEVE KILGALLON July 04, 2010
HAVING been savaged all week for some rather mild criticism of Jarryd Hayne, you could hardly expect Daniel Anderson to offer another full, frank and free appraisal - even after such a comprehensive flogging.
Anderson did not want for targets after the Eels faded from 12-6 behind on the hour to leak 23 points in the final quarter. There was his halfback, Daniel Mortimer, hooked with 12 minutes to go after an entirely ineffective effort. There was Krisnan Inu, whose limp defensive effort wouldn't have impressed his future employers. There were even such unusual candidates like Nathan Hindmarsh, who coughed up the ball three times in the first quarter, and afterwards declared: "That was a night I would rather forget.''
Instead, the true analysis was left to skipper Nathan Cayless, who had already identified himself as an ardent supporter of free speech after his sturdy midweek defence of Anderson.
Confronted by television cameras immediately after the end of his entirely forgettable 250th first-grade game, an upset Cayless said: "There were too many sloppy errors: that's not first grade. I am not too sure we turned up mentally. We're letting our fans down and we are letting ourselves down at the moment.''
Later, last man out of the Parramatta rooms, and given time to reflect, he was gentler on his dejected teammates, blaming errors but not effort: "We have got to stick together and dig ourselves out of this hole … it's getting a bit desperate and we've got to throw some caution to the wind.''
But Hindmarsh seemed to reckon his old mate had it right first time round. "He's got every right to be upset,'' he said. "This is Nathan Cayless's last season.''
The inference was that at this stage, it will be ending a month earlier than planned. This was the Eels' fifth defeat in six games. "We are running out of games, you're dead right, but that's the pressure we've placed upon ourselves,'' said Anderson. "We've got to come up with a performance next Monday night [against the Cowboys], it's as simple as that.''
The Mt Smart floodlights were switched on at 2pm - two hours before kick-off - and it didn't stop raining from then on. By half-time, the Eels had already made twice as many errors as the Warriors. And after half-time, that began to tell. Ukuma Ta'ai barged over in the 61st minute and began a deluge to match the rainfall, with Manu Vatuvei, James Maloney and Lewis Brown all following. Isaac John's scuffed field goal in the final minute would not have helped the Eels' mood.
By then Mortimer was wrapped in a towel on the Parramatta bench, Anderson saying he was a "bit tired'' after making over 40 tackles a week ago and another mountain of work last night, later adding that his halfback seemed "jaded'' and "rattled''.
Asked if the disruptions of the week had affected the performance, he offered a firm "I don't think so'' and when the inevitable Hayne question came, his answer was careful. "He's probably our best attacking player,'' he said, in response to an enquiry about how much the Eels had missed their custodian

http://m.theage.com.au/rugby-league...fire-as-cayless-speaks-out-20100704-zvla.html
 

MaxZ/3iaGGiZ

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Look here folks, DA is slowly losing his power as a coach. When a coach cannot critizise his own teams poor effort, it shows his power as a coach is on the decline. Or maybe DA has realised it just might not be the players but his coaching that has caused us problems.

I truely hope this dud of a coach can restore our premiereship chances. The 3 areas he needs to work on parra are Halves Structure, Players Attitude, and our Attack. Goodluck DA.
 

Avenger

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Ricky Stuart at the Sharks is also struggling however the players love him, some even say that he is like a father figure to them. At Parra however, the players are obviously polarized about Anderson. That is a worry, not his coaching ability.
 

MaxZ/3iaGGiZ

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Ricky Stuart at the Sharks is also struggling however the players love him, some even say that he is like a father figure to them. At Parra however, the players are obviously polarized about Anderson. That is a worry, not his coaching ability.

Agreed. Halves Structure, Players Attitude, and our Attack can only happen when Coach and Players work together. People will say we have no internal problems cause everyone made up but the fact is our internal problems are huge. The players look unhappy on the field, even when training.

Phil Gould....

"From where I sit, I think yesterday's performance represented breaking point. There was something about their demeanour and body language that suggests they are in no frame of mind for a late-season run at the finals in 2010.
I watched with great interest as they prepared for yesterday's contest with their usual warm-up routines on the field. They simply went through the motions.
I saw no attention to detail, no urgency and no obvious sign of desire. Drills and skills were done at half pace. Even at this leisurely tempo there were several errors in their work. Passes floated forward, balls were dropped and the execution of plays left a lot to be desired.
The greatest indicator of intent is the amount of talk and encouragement you hear from players as they prepare themselves for battle. This Parramatta warm-up was conducted almost in silence. It was dead. No life. No spirit. Sure enough that's how they played".

Time to supoport Ricky Stuart as our next coach me thinks.
 

Avenger

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Time to support Ricky Stuart as our next coach me thinks.

You want a coach who has no idea about halves coaching, coaching our halves who are arguably the worst in the comp.

Get a grip, if it 's not Anderson it should be Bennett. His contract coincides with Anderson's anyway.
 

Snoochies

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By then Mortimer was wrapped in a towel on the Parramatta bench, Anderson saying he was a "bit tired'' after making over 40 tackles a week ago and another mountain of work last night, later adding that his halfback seemed "jaded'' and "rattled''.

Surprised the media hasn't jumped all over this quote, surely Mortimer is being singled out here. :roll:
 

Rich102

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Anderson is, in my opinion, the best coach the Warriors have had; and the most successful.
However we are living in a new age. The coach no longer tells the players what he wants and, if he doesn't get it, drops the player concerned. We now have "sensetive" players who take exception, and a media who thrive on the friction.
The whole era of "superstars" is going to haunt our game in the future.

As I recall Anderson was a passionate man. The team that took the field agains us Sunday lacked any passion.

I hope your season turns around but I don't think Anderson is the problem.
 

eels_

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We always blame the coach... Smith was crap... Hagan was crap... Now Anderson is crap... So yea the prob is the coach. Lets get another coach. He will do well for 1 season then everyone will be bitching about him too. The problem isnt the coach. I dont think Anderson tells INU to make sure he misses alot of tackles and throw alot of stupid passes.
 

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We always blame the coach... Smith was crap... Hagan was crap... Now Anderson is crap... So yea the prob is the coach. Lets get another coach. He will do well for 1 season then everyone will be bitching about him too. The problem isnt the coach. I dont think Anderson tells INU to make sure he misses alot of tackles and throw alot of stupid passes.

Everyone is picking on Inu and at times, this is rightly so. His attempted tackle for the last try showed a disrespect to the jumper.
But let's just take a step back.

At 12-6 down in the second half, Reddy gets put into a gap up the right hand side. around our own 40 line. He makes a good 15 metres and all he has to do is draw and pass to Inu and he is away with try almost written all over it.
What does Reddy do? Waits until the last second before looking and passing and ends up throwing it forward. Some of the poorest execution of any play I have seen by an Eel this season. But somehow Reddy is able to avoid execution by keyboard on this site. :roll:
That was a critical play at the time and Reddy, a first grader of decent experience, f**ked it up big time like someone from the Under 10's. It was disgraceful.

Suity
 
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caylo

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Players arnt winning so obviously they arnt going to be happy but our teams defence has been pretty good all year and for me that is the biggest indicator of a coachs ability. We lack an experianced 7 and if we can get Barrett, Kimmorly or Orford (assuming Cronk is out) then we are a definate chance because we have a strong backline and an excellent pack. It isnt DA fault that out halves havnt fired bt Humble has been a good pick up and Mortz could become future halfback in the mould of Orford if he can develop his game.
 

CrazyEel

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Everyone is picking on Inu and at times, this is rightly so. His attempted tackle for the last try showed a disrespect to the jumper.
But let's just take a step back.

At 12-6 down in the second half, Reddy gets put into a gap up the right hand side. around our own 40 line. He makes a good 15 metres and all he has to do is draw and pass to Inu and he is away with try almost written all over it.
What does Reddy do? Waits until the last second before looking and passing and ends up throwing it forward. Some of the poorest execution of any play I have seen by an Eel this season. But somehow Reddy is able to avoid execution by keyboard on this site. :roll:
That was a critical play at the time and Reddy, a first grader of decent experience, f**ked it up big time like someone from the Under 10's. It was disgraceful.

Suity
I'm pleased to find I wasn't the only one to be really pissed about that :lol:
 

caylo

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Everyone is picking on Inu and at times, this is rightly so. His attempted tackle for the last try showed a disrespect to the jumper.
But let's just take a step back.

At 12-6 down in the second half, Reddy gets put into a gap up the right hand side. around our own 40 line. He makes a good 15 metres and all he has to do is draw and pass to Inu and he is away with try almost written all over it.
What does Reddy do? Waits until the last second before looking and passing and ends up throwing it forward. Some of the poorest execution of any play I have seen by an Eel this season. But somehow Reddy is able to avoid execution by keyboard on this site. :roll:
That was a critical play at the time and Reddy, a first grader of decent experience, f**ked it up big time like someone from the Under 10's. It was disgraceful.

Suity

Next year if we cant get anyone for the backline I would like to see a young backrower given a chance in the centre with Reddy on the wing (he is at his best there IMO). They would add some size outwide and would just be as quick as Inu.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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Everyone is picking on Inu and at times, this is rightly so. His attempted tackle for the last try showed a disrespect to the jumper.
But let's just take a step back.

At 12-6 down in the second half, Reddy gets put into a gap up the right hand side. around our own 40 line. He makes a good 15 metres and all he has to do is draw and pass to Inu and he is away with try almost written all over it.
What does Reddy do? Waits until the last second before looking and passing and ends up throwing it forward. Some of the poorest execution of any play I have seen by an Eel this season. But somehow Reddy is able to avoid execution by keyboard on this site. :roll:
That was a critical play at the time and Reddy, a first grader of decent experience, f**ked it up big time like someone from the Under 10's. It was disgraceful.

Suity

Oh come on, you know exactly why Reddy isnt being singled out. He is a player of limited ability but gives his all. He plays well above his ability. That forward pass was just typical of the whole team. If he constantly threw them then yeah, crucify him. But he isnt making consistant errors like Mateo, Inu, Mortimer, etc etc.

Its thinking like that, judging a player based on one play, that lead is to signing Inu to a massive contract 3 years ago.
 

Suitman

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Oh come on, you know exactly why Reddy isnt being singled out. He is a player of limited ability but gives his all. He plays well above his ability. That forward pass was just typical of the whole team. If he constantly threw them then yeah, crucify him. But he isnt making consistant errors like Mateo, Inu, Mortimer, etc etc.

Its thinking like that, judging a player based on one play, that lead is to signing Inu to a massive contract 3 years ago.

lol.

The point I was making is that some players in our team are untouchable.
Reddy has been more than below average all season. So have Inu and Mateo.
But only the latter are copping sh*te around here.
My point is that Reddy has been no better. It's not just one incident.

Suity
 

fish eel

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Everyone is picking on Inu and at times, this is rightly so. His attempted tackle for the last try showed a disrespect to the jumper.
But let's just take a step back.

At 12-6 down in the second half, Reddy gets put into a gap up the right hand side. around our own 40 line. He makes a good 15 metres and all he has to do is draw and pass to Inu and he is away with try almost written all over it.
What does Reddy do? Waits until the last second before looking and passing and ends up throwing it forward. Some of the poorest execution of any play I have seen by an Eel this season. But somehow Reddy is able to avoid execution by keyboard on this site. :roll:
That was a critical play at the time and Reddy, a first grader of decent experience, f**ked it up big time like someone from the Under 10's. It was disgraceful.

Suity

Wasn't Joel Reddy responsible for a similar shocking miss against the Broncos that lead to a try?
 

Suitman

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Wasn't Joel Reddy responsible for a similar shocking miss against the Broncos that lead to a try?

Yes, and I haven't even gone any where near the pathetic attempt by Jonathan Wright for the first try of the second half. :roll:
There are many scapegoats, but Inu and Mateo are the greatest.
My point is, is that there are many other as poor performers than those two.

I don't understand why so many fans wear such horrible blinkers.

Suity
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

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lol.

The point I was making is that some players in our team are untouchable.
Reddy has been more than below average all season. So have Inu and Mateo.
But only the latter are copping sh*te around here.
My point is that Reddy has been no better. It's not just one incident.

Suity

Yes, people on this site are completely illogical and as bias as the next person. Why one would try and question and challenge it is on higher level of insane.
 

hybrideel

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Everyone is picking on Inu and at times, this is rightly so. His attempted tackle for the last try showed a disrespect to the jumper.
But let's just take a step back.

At 12-6 down in the second half, Reddy gets put into a gap up the right hand side. around our own 40 line. He makes a good 15 metres and all he has to do is draw and pass to Inu and he is away with try almost written all over it.
What does Reddy do? Waits until the last second before looking and passing and ends up throwing it forward. Some of the poorest execution of any play I have seen by an Eel this season. But somehow Reddy is able to avoid execution by keyboard on this site. :roll:
That was a critical play at the time and Reddy, a first grader of decent experience, f**ked it up big time like someone from the Under 10's. It was disgraceful.

Suity

But Suity, it wasn't his fault. Just ask Gus Gould. It's too hard as it is these days for a first grade rugby league player to be able to run and pass at the same time, but when you add bad weather it's practically impossible
 

Suitman

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But Suity, it wasn't his fault. Just ask Gus Gould. It's too hard as it is these days for a first grade rugby league player to be able to run and pass at the same time, but when you add bad weather it's practically impossible

Yeh, I heard that. :lol:
I've defended Gould today, but that comment was unbelievable. Absolutely stupid tbh.

Suity
 

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