PNG bid for NRL

[Perth Red]

And I think this shows the mentality of most NRL Clubs, which is they will not risk taking PNG youngsters unless someone else is sharing the costs. Its sad really.

And I don't blame the PNGNRL Bid taking the initiative in engaging the Broncos.

If this kid can make a break through to first grade than hopefully other clubs can see the benefit of scouting out PNG Kids.

It is still going to be much easier to scout and train from your local leagues/Sg ball etc than scout in PNG, pay travel and accommodation costs, support the kid adjusting to a totally different way of life etc etc. Its not like we don't have a lot of kids playing the game in Oz and NZ to choose from. Maybe the introduction of new teams will put more pressure on the supply and demand or maybe the ARLC/RLIF/PNGRL and Oz Govt will get together and find better ways of PNG [layer development.

 

[docbrown]

There's got to be a system in place where the PNGRL takes the best kids and lets them performing with the NRL teams sending scouts for that carnival weekend etc to find new talent.

Perhaps if a new player is retained for a certain period when they make it to NRL level for a certain time period, the NRL pays the player a certain % of his salary instead of the club. This should apply to any player sign from an officially sanctioned scouting event or local competition.

The money the club saves from having to pay out the salary can then be used to cover scouting costs. It encourage teams to scout and develop international players to elite standard.

I also don't see why this couldn't also be applied to non-NSW & non-QLD Australian players.

 

[Dogs Of War]

At least if you applied it at Toyota Cup level, and allowed each team say 2 PNG boys free (Maybe the NRL could pay for it, not sure what a Toyota Cup player earns, but it couldn't be a hell of a lot), who even if they don't go up to the next level, they have had the training to go back home and hopefully make the next crop even better.

 

[Perth Red]

All sounds good and very altruistic but given we haven;t even developed the game in large parts of our own country can you see the ARLC forking out $'s to develop the game in PNG? Despite being hugely popular the game over there has been very badly run and its only through this PNG bid that we are starting see some strategic direction for the development of the game. Entrance to Q'land cup plus much improved jnr competions and training in PNG is the first steps. For me the RLIF should get greater income and be the ones hat are fnding the development of the game in places like PNG, Samoa, Fiji etc. Maybe if the RFL/NZRL,ARL didn;t take money from the Int games and allowed the RLIF to have some they could do so?

 

[docbrown]

I'm sorry but over the course of this evening's forum posts I've been told -

* By a Canberran that the NRL shouldn't spend money on international development and just focus on its heartland in NSW, QLD & ACT
* By a West Australian that the NRL shouldn't fork out a heap of money on international development but focus on the overlooked areas of Australia outside of NSW, QLD & ACT
* By a regional fan that the NRL shouldn't spend money in the metros but focus on country/regional development

Am I really the only person who thinks they need to focus on EVERYTHING?

 

[Perth Red]

This could be a really great step forward for PNG bid if they can get good value for money out of the Titans. It should be about a pathway for development of PNG players and administrators though and not wasted on things like shorts advertising.
http://www.thenational.com.pg/?q=node/30351

 

[mikail-eagle]

PNG team in NRL could be a better bet

Josh Dowse

March 19, 2012 Opinion

Belden Namah's alleged shenanigans at the Star casino tempt the observation that $800,000 is a lot of money for a minister of an impoverished nation to have ''on account'' at our ''ask no questions'' casino.

Papua New Guinea should not be anywhere near as destitute as it has become. It has remarkable natural assets, a rich and powerful neighbour, and an already significant income that is about to double through its nation-changing natural gas project.
Yet its entrenched and indefensible corruption leaves its national coffers as good as empty. In short meetings with PNG ministers, I have witnessed that culture first hand and seen some of its effects: such as one-year-old roads that have been washed away because the selected tenderer didn't bother much with the roadbase or drainage.

Australians should give a toss about this corruption. PNG was of course an Australian protectorate until its independence in 1975, and in part its troubles are our legacy, though it is long past the time PNG politicians can avoid their responsibilities.
More important, Australia is PNG's biggest donor, and they our biggest recipient. Last year, we spent $482.3 million on PNG aid.
This funds a healthy bureaucracy in Port Moresby, an array of 4WDs and some small successes. But it doesn't go far because Port Moresby is chronically expensive to live in, cars cost more than $10,000 to insure between thefts and trashings, and little gets out to the regions where it is needed.
PNG is our nearest neighbour, yet we neglect its troubles to engage in global sorties that are more ''strategic'' for our alliances and more ''exciting'' for our policy-makers. We need to engage more deeply than via our quick self-esteeming trips up the Kokoda Track.
There is a lot that can and should be done, but I would like to wave the flag for one idea that would increase awareness of PNG's plight in Australia, shine a torch on and improve PNG's governance and, at the same time, invigorate a nation.
Australia should use a small part of its $482 million annual aid budget to fund a PNG team in our National Rugby League. Let our teams, and the media, see Port Moresby once a fortnight and let Moresby see them.
The more there are well-governed institutions to look up to in PNG, the better. Under the NRL, a PNG-based team would join others such as NasFund, the national superannuation fund, as examples sorely needed to counterbalance the mire of PNG politics. Unlike most other PNG institutions, though, this would be one that the PNG people would care deeply about. Rugby league is their national sport, the game kids play in every park and yard, the posters they have on their walls. When an Australian team tours there, it is a national event. When one of their own pulls on an NRL jersey, a nation follows that team. Nonetheless, the PNG Rugby League is a transient body that last went broke in 2004. It gets some help from the NRL but not enough to become a worthy opponent in rugby league's underwhelming ''Four Nations'' tournament.
There are some good people supporting PNG's NRL bid - Phil Gould in particular - but it is not a commercial proposition for the same reason the Pacific island nations are sadly excluded from rugby union's Super XV competition - there aren't enough Foxtel subscribers.
With a clear public benefit, and no commercial case, government should step in. The NRL would administer the funds more effectively than AusAID, while remaining accountable to the Australian government. It wouldn't be the first time the federal government invested in NRL: as a minister, Joe Hockey funded Souths Cares, for example, a foundation aimed at creating jobs in Redfern and other social projects.
Obviously, the team should have no ties to PNG's government, but its administration should include PNG nationals. These roles would be highly prized in PNG's ''big man'' culture, but the NRL should resist allocating them on the basis of local seniority.
It's time we heard stories from PNG other than the ones of relentless environmental damage, power struggles, corruption and violence. Having a PNG team in our NRL would be an engagement from which many other good things may flow.
In fact, though a simple idea, it may have more promise than all of our manifest policy failures there over the past 30 years.




http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...-better-bet-20120318-1vdp8.html#ixzz1pXYnmTp0

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[undertaker]

Who could forget this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0OHQJ000hM

 

[NRL]

Would be great to see a PNG based side.

 

[Perth Red]

shame we don't get to see televised test matches from PNG.

 

[Perth Red]

Great work by the PNG bid. Despite the CQ bid laying scurrilous claims to being the only bid investing in jnr football, the PNG bid has in fact been leading the way. They may not get a NRL team but the work of the PNG bid in finally creating some national strucutres for Junior RL is outstanding and will have long reaching benefits for the game there.

Since inception the PNG NRL BID has spent close to K3 million ($1.4mill Aus) in junior development.

Now its second year the National All Schools Rugby League program has achieved fantastic results having been in contact with over 100,000 school children across four major zones in PNG (Islands, Highlands, Southern and Northern). In 2011 grants to the Zone Programs totalled K135,000, however in 2012 this has nearly doubled to K236,000 due to more regions wanting to be involved in the school based rugby league development program.

http://www.pngnrlbid.com/index.php?page_id=196

 

[dangerousdave]

Yes but CQ also has more money than CC, Perth and B2 combined remember.

Anyway, well done to PNG. Junior development is the first step for their bid. I really think it's possible right down the track when there's a significant number of PNG nationals in the NRL already

 

[Dogs Of War]

You could see PNG becoming like the Broncos with unlimited juniors to pick from if they got the right management in place.

 

[mikail-eagle]

Anyway, well done to PNG. Junior development is the first step for their bid. I really think it's possible right down the track when there's a significant number of PNG nationals in the NRL already

They've actually done very well in all the schools despite the fact that they have had to compete with the other codes/sports for the same kids....

The other codes especially football, rolled out the FIFA just play program mid last year with aot of schools signing up, given the amount of money being spent by FIFA.
There are now also school competitions for Cricket and Rugby Union while AFL which is also throwing alot of money into the schools up here, and it already has its own AFL Acedemy in Port Moresby.

 

[mikail-eagle]

http://www.thenational.com.pg/?q=node/33663
PNG may join Qld Cup league

Source:
The National, Thursday 31st May, 2012


By KEITH PUARIA
PAPUA New Guinea will know in seven days whether the country will have a team taking part in the 2013 Queensland Rugby Leagues Intrust Super Cup or not.
“It’s been a long and intense six month process but we are pretty confident, we’re 80% confident of getting the nod,” PNG National Rugby League Bid chief executive officer Brad Tassell said.
Tassell yesterday revealed that a meeting by the QRL board in Melbourne last Thursday tabled PNG’s submission, and drew a positive response from all members, and clubs in the current competition.
“It’s been positive. They now go back to re-drawing and working towards accommodating an extra team in their schedule.
“It’s an even 12-team competition at the moment, and the addition will obviously make it an uneven draw. They want to work around all areas to cover for the team.
“They’ll meet again on the June 7, before any confirmation is made, so we’re looking forward to it.”
He added that the outcome could also see a potential trip by the QRL board to Port Moresby to inspect the facilities for the proposed team’s home matches – Lloyd Robson Oval.
Entry into the QRL Intrust Super Cup, downgraded from the county’s original bid to have a team in the highest Australian rugby league competition, the NRL, has been deemed however as the next best step going forward.
Tassell made it very clear that there would be no favouritism r in selection.
All players eligible would have to be playing in the local competitions and the Digicel Cup.
“The team will be 100% local born and bred talent selected from all rugby league competitions, including the Digicel Cup, with consideration for players that have come through the junior programmes.
“A six month scouting period will commence as soon as we get the nod, from where a squad of 40 players will be picked by November.
“This will be further trimmed to a 25-man full time squad, which will go into camp in January, and right through to the season, based out of Port Moresby,” Tassell said.
Tassell made special mention of Prime Minister Peter O’Neill’s support in writing personally to the QRL to seek entry of a PNG team, and his government’s commitment of K1.5 million to initial preparations and running of the programme.
“The team will be run as a full professional franchise, like the Australian NRL clubs,” Tassell said.
Current Kumuls on playing stints overseas have shown great interest in the QRL concept because it will provide the quality rugby league that they have gone overseas to seek.
Draws for the QRL season could see the team play about six home games in the season.
The Intrust Super Cup is made up of teams from around Queensland, and includes a full playing roster of clubs Wynnum Manly Seagulls, Redcliffe Dolphins, Tweed Heads Seagulls, Easts Tigers, Northern Pride, Mackay Cutters, Ipswich Jets, Norths Devils, Central Capras, Burleigh Bears, Souths Logan Magpies and Sunshine Coast Sea Eagles.
Tassell said a public promotion would be driven by the PNG NRL Bid office for public suggestions for a name for the team, when an official decision was reached by the QRL.

 

[CQ Italia]

Hope it happens - you would think they could become very strong in the Queensland Cup, particularly at home. With all the junior work being done and the ability to keep players on low cost recruitment.

 

[applesauce]

Would be so good if PNG got into the QLD cup. This is the first step in a long, long process of getting a NRL licence.

 

[Titanic]

Would be so good if PNG got into the QLD cup.

This should read "got back into the QCup" as the Port Moresby Coca-Cola Vipers played in it in 1996-7. Bring back the Vipers!

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Honestly I'd prefer we kept the QLD cup for QLD teams and PNG/WA/NZ/etc play in the NSW Cup.

 

[mikail-eagle]

This should read "got back into the QCup" as the Port Moresby Coca-Cola Vipers played in it in 1996-7. Bring back the Vipers!

The only way the Vipers would ever come back is if their current Franchise Owners (CPL Group) apply to the QRL as a seperate team.

As it stands I think they are better off playing in the Digicel Cup.

The BID Team also knows that if they want to get support from the whole country they have to come up with a team that truly represents everyone and not just a team that is associated with Port Moresby only.