PNG vs France 2nd Test

[deluded pom?]

i dont think the poms were lucky to win, nz were lucky they didnt win by more. anyone who thinks the nz is there 3rd best team is dreaming, they do have a lot of players out, but it is there strongest national side, and a fair few of the players would still make it if all kiwis were available.

Care to borrow my hammer and chisel hutch? It's the only way you can get through to winny. :roll:

 

[rugby13france-livrade+sav]

Communication made by the FFR.13's Aquitaine regional technical adviser about free tickets dispatched (4,000):

Quote:
- 200 places offertes (pesage) dans le cadre du salon des sports de conforexpo
- 250 places offertes aux personnes qui ont pris la peine de s'arrêter sur le stand d la Ligue d'Aquitaine. (Toutes sont parties !!)
- 250 places offertes (pesage) aux étudiants bordelais via le CRSU (toutes sont partie en une journée !!)
- 50 places offertes (pesage) au Lycée Grand Lebrun (participant à la dynamique Rugby à XIIII UGSEL) de Bordeaux via le prof d'EPS (Toutes sont parties !!)
- 750 places offertes (pesage) aux grandes surfaces (Carrefour Arcins, Leclerc) de Bégles et Géant Casino de Villenave d'Ornon
- 1 000 places offertes (pesage) à la ville de Bégles en direction de ses écoles primaires et ses centres sociaux
- 200 places offertes aux commerçants de la rive droite bordelaise
- Des places offertes aux écoles de Rugby d'Aquitaine souhaitant se déplacer ainsi qu'à certain clubs faisant spécialement le déplacement (Nantes, Villeneuve Tolosane)
- Des places offertes sur les radios locales (NRJ, ARL)
- Des places mises à dispositions des sponsors qui aident le Rugby à XIII girondins.

Certes il y a beaucoup d'invitation (pesage) distribuées (4 000) mais notre priorité est de faire de cette rencontre un succès populaire. Il reste tout de même 6 000 places payantes entre 10 et 15 euros (tarifs tout à fait accessible à tous) qui peuvent aussi assurer à l'organisateur un bénéfice non négligeable.
Endquote

At the final less than 2,500 spectators at the game for Bordeaux and its suburb 735,000 inhabitants
http://www.bordeaux.fr/ebx/portals/ebx.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pgPresStand13&classofcontent=presentationStandard&id=287
and what is the benefit for the fédé ? with a so poor attendance charges are huguely higher than the receipts at the gate

Life is made of positive and negative news, strange that the negative are forbidden, strange that the negative are more numerous than the positive, strange that parraeelsnrl never gives the negative
This morning my wife lost his first cousin, is it a positive new ?, less than 2,500 spectators for an international game in a city with it suburb of 735,000 inhabitants is it a positive new ?

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Life is made of positive and negative news, strange that the negative are forbidden, strange that the negative are more numerous than the positive, strange that parraeelsnrl never gives the negative
This morning my wife lost his first cousin, is it a positive new ?, less than 2,500 spectators for an international game in a city with it suburb of 735,000 inhabitants is it a positive new ?

I don't put the negative in because people like you do it for me and there is no ban here about posting the bad stuff, I don't read French, I use a translator so it's quite difficult for me to even understand some of the things going on.:roll:

What negative is there anyway?

The games have been played which is more than RL fans usually get, we have seen games on Fox sports, the Internet, pieces in the papers, things are looking up, if you want to drown yourself in negative all the time, that's up to you, I prefer to look at the positive.

Sorry to hear about your wife's cousin.

 

[miguel de cervantes]

At the final less than 2,500 spectators at the game for Bordeaux and its suburb 735,000 inhabitants
http://www.bordeaux.fr/ebx/portals/ebx.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pgPresStand13&classofcontent=presentationStandard&id=287
and what is the benefit for the fédé ? with a so poor attendance charges are huguely higher than the receipts at the gate

Concernant l'affluence :

Nous sommes en progression de 30% par rapport
au dernier match international joué a Bordeaux

En effet , le dernier match international joué a Bordeaux
l'a été en 1975 ( France / Angleterre ) Pipette était le
sélectionneur et il y avait 1.500 spectateurs au stade Lescure
rebaptisé par la suite Stade Chaban delmas .

Et on avait pris une bonne correction 48 a 2 !

All positive news. Did you go to the game rugby13france-livrade+sav?

 

[screeny]

Miguel, Rugby13 livrade fellow,

Is the NZ France match live on Sport +? It's not on the programme listing online.

 

[rugby13france-livrade+sav]

ParraEelsNRL: the death of my wife' first cousin is an example that the life isn't only made with positive news, in sport it is the same thing. The translator is able to give you also the bad news and after posting them if a misunderstanding i am sure that miguel de cervantes or other Frenchs will correct.

miguel de cervantes: i wasn't at the game; the bad obligation (in Paris)) is an opportunity to go the next game. If the general secretary is very happy with from 1,500 to less than 2,500 this means he is on an other planet.

screeny: written on my tv program: game at 18h (begins perhaps at 17h55) Paris time on saturday 17 and confirmed on its website for Sport+
http://www.telecablesatellite.fr/Grille.php
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[rugby13france-livrade+sav]

Concernant l'affluence :
Nous sommes en progression de 30% par rapport
au dernier match international joué a Bordeaux

En effet , le dernier match international joué a Bordeaux
l'a été en 1975 ( France / Angleterre ) Pipette était le
sélectionneur et il y avait 1.500 spectateurs au stade Lescure
rebaptisé par la suite Stade Chaban delmas .
Et on avait pris une bonne correction 48 a 2 !

All positive news

miguel de cervantes: 30% of 1,500 it is 450
so in Bégles bordeaux the 11.11.2007, it wasn't less than 2,500 but less than 2,000 (1,500 + 450) ; this is a very positive new for an international game: less than 2,000 (in a town + its suburb of 735,000 inhabitants)

 

[miguel de cervantes]

miguel de cervantes: 30% of 1,500 it is 450
so in Bégles bordeaux the 11.11.2007, it wasn't less than 2,500 but less than 2,000 (1,500 + 450) ; this is a very positive new for an international game: less than 2,000 (in a town + its suburb of 735,000 inhabitants)

I didn't make the calculations. 30% was a rough estimate I would say. This is still progress however.

Do you expect the first int. game played in Bordeaux in 32 years to magically pull a big crowd? Half the people in the ground wouldn't have been born 32 years ago.

As for the free tickets, the FFRXIII are doing what they can with what they have to get people through the gate, because the media certainly aren't helping. What would you have done differently to pull a bigger crowd?

 

[rugby13france-livrade+sav]

miguel de cervantes, in the French RL it is the men who cry the highest who provide the truth, who impose their ideas. In the French RL have you noticed that in the forums the people writing the contrary of the fans tenors and of their fans hold problems ?
It is that you make in your above post, what do you do with the over 40 years old who have known RL in Bordeaux, in Gironde (before 1970 it wasn't the desert) ?

Have you think also that if a so poor attendance it is that because as from 1995/96 (RU professionnal) the Frenchs don't appreciate RL.

It is a good slogan:
the medias hate, don't appreciate RL !!!! ,
in 2007 it is, 67/63 years after, vichy the responsible !!!!!
but never the question:
is RL appreciated by French people ?????

 

[miguel de cervantes]

miguel de cervantes, in the French RL it is the men who cry the highest who provide the truth, who impose their ideas. In the French RL have you noticed that in the forums the people writing the contrary of the fans tenors and of their fans hold problems ?
It is that you make in your above post, what do you do with the over 40 years old who have known RL in Bordeaux, in Gironde (before 1970 it wasn't the desert) ?

Have you think also that if a so poor attendance it is that because as from 1995/96 (RU professionnal) the Frenchs don't appreciate RL.

It is a good slogan:
the medias hate, don't appreciate RL !!!! ,
in 2007 it is, 67/63 years after, vichy the responsible !!!!!
but never the question:
is RL appreciated by French people ?????

Yes. RL is appreciated by the few French people that know it exists and have regular access to the games at a high level. The Dragons prove this. The Dragons will eventually kill off USAP. I have no doubts over this. Are the French so different than the Australians, the Kiwis, the English, the New Guineans...?

"Have you think also that if a so poor attendance it is that because as from 1995/96 (RU professionnal) the Frenchs don't appreciate RL."

Think about what you are saying here. As soon as RU went professional, ie. as soon as the game became a money making enterprise, as soon as it become mixed up with media and advertising it has dominated attention of the public in France. It is not because RL is not appreciated, it is because many years ago it failed to capitalise on changing trends in media, it missed the boat and has ever since been smothered by RU. It is very, very hard to win back that lost ground and it must be done in little steps over time, something I think the FFR are managing to do, mainly because of the Dragons.

You would be very nieve to think the media plays no part in helping the public decide which sports to follow.

 

[screeny]

rugby13france-livrade fellow, thanks for confirming the match is live on Sport +

 

[rugby13france-livrade+sav]

miguel de cervantes, from 1946/47 to 1960/65 the stadiums were full and more than full.

the responsible is vichy,
the responsible is the French RU the grassroots of the French RL,
the responsible is the French RU the provider of players (international or excellent players) to the French RL,
the responsible is easier to make its market with many millions French Francs in an other federation: RU, why at this time the RL market wasn't made in other sports ?

Have you thought that RU players in RL were very attractive ?
Have you thought that RL has been also attractive in France from 1934 to 1940 because French RU was excluded by British RU ?
What was the most attractive RL: 1951 (Rugby-champagne) or 1955/60 or 2000/2007 ?

miguel de cervantes, If you have an appartment do you use very often the appartment of your neighbours ? do they appreciate your actions ?


miguel de cervantes, from 1946/47 to 1960/65 the stadiums were full and more than full BUT no TV, only radio reports and the newspapers made a very little better effort (excepted L'Equipe) than nowadays.

Are all fans, the ten's thousands of fans of 10/20 years old in 1950 or 1960 dead as from 1995 ? or do you suggest that between 1945 to 1965 RL wasn't unknown by millions of French ?

miguel de cervantes, make the list of 13 de France players for the 1951, 1955, 1960, 1964 tour down under and add the mention "origin RU", "origin other sport than RL"

You write RU became a money making enterprise in France, isn't it the case of soccer since 1945 ?, isn't the case of RL in Australia or England since several ten's of years ?



RL has been great in Wales several ten's of years ago, Wales is a country of workers, Have you an explanation relating to the poverty of RL (since 30/40 years) in Wales ?



Australian you are very strange thinking that a French must think like an Australian, that you are an example; The French in Australia it is about 15,000 / 70,000 individuals, how many like RL players, how many in your stadiums like spectators or fans ?
http://www.ambafrance-au.org/article.php3?id_article=1195