PNG's back.

[Maximus]

It’s a real shame Peter vlandys and Anthony albanese aren’t reading this thread and taking some sage advice from the resident geopolitical experts from Perth and Townsville

Says the guy who claims to be an expert on every topic and the entire world.

 

[Perth Red]

Why are they going to struggle to get players

north qld don’t

Australian tv are broadcasting

it has the same value as Perth for Aussie tv ie nil

becasue I am guessing not many players are going to choose to play for a club where you have to fly EVERY weekend for games? Especially where your home games involve an international journey and playing in high humidity in a country with ltd hospital expertise.

Its not only of no value, it likely DEVALUES the TV deal. Cost of overseas production for no return and one of the lowest drawing games each weekend (based on Warriors Australian audiences)

All of this is irrelevant though as the NRL has the $ signs in its eyes so the actual long term viability of it all seems a very distant secondary thought.

 

[Perth Red]

yeah, i'm wondering what the other 17 clubs think of this... you are right, PVL must have promised something to them.

Tigers will be happy, no wooden spoons for them for as long as PNG are in the comp lol

He had to give them $2mill extra each a year to get Dolphins over the line. He can always cut grassroots funding again to pay them for accepting PNG I suppose?

 

[BuffaloRules]

All of this is irrelevant though as the NRL has the $ signs in its eyes so the actual long term viability of it all seems a very distant secondary thought.

Yep…They say money talks

You have done so much crying over the lack of TV money over the years … thought you would be happy about this?

Money has driven all your other criticisms of PVL…now long term viability is your main concern

 

[Dragonwest]

It’s a real shame Peter vlandys and Anthony albanese aren’t reading this thread and taking some sage advice from the resident geopolitical experts from Perth and Townsville

Vlandy should be having nothing to do with Geopolitical matters in the first place.

As insane as this PNG proposal is unfortunately it is happening

Hopefully there are some water tight long-term contracts signed for the funding and its used to expand Australian Rugby League.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

A PNG team isn't going to make the NRL any money, especially through broadcast rights.

Neither will a Perth-based team.

 

[Perth Red]

Yep…They say money talks

You have done so much crying over the lack of TV money over the years … thought you would be happy about this?

Money has driven all your other criticisms of PVL…now long term viability is your main concern

This isnt going to change lack of tv money. Im all for NRL bringing in more revenue, they need to. But putting a likely albatross around the neck of the comp in doing so doesnt seem so smart to me.

 

[Perth Red]

Neither will a Perth-based team.

png thread

 

[BuffaloRules]

This isnt going to change lack of tv money. Im all for NRL bringing in more revenue, they need to. But putting a likely albatross around the neck of the comp in doing so doesnt seem so smart to me.

The NRL clubs won’t care … they just see “free team” and an extra game to sell…

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Neither will a Perth-based team.

You said a PNG team will offer no value to the broadcasters. I pointed out that the same accusation can be levelled at Perth.

Your response?

"Only focus on PNG's weaknesses!"

Yes, the PNG proposition is only viable because it's funded by the Aus and PNG Govs. It's a one of a kind proposition that we'll never see again. It's also one that benefits our game in so many ways. The pride and happiness it will provide to Papuans will be through the roof. It will help the game turn PNG's passion for the sport into active players who will strengthen the talent pool and Test match football.

Don't you want a strong PNG that is capable of competing with the "big three" at the RLWC?

We'll never get a better opportunity to grow the game in PNG.

 

[Perth Red]

You said a PNG team will offer no value to the broadcasters. I pointed out that the same accusation can be levelled at Perth.

Your response?

"Only focus on PNG's weaknesses!"

Yes, the PNG proposition is only viable because it's funded by the Aus and PNG Govs. It's a one of a kind proposition that we'll never see again. It's also one that benefits our game in so many ways. The pride and happiness it will provide to Papuans will be through the roof. It will help the game turn PNG's passion for the sport into active players who will strengthen the talent pool and Test match football.

Don't you want a strong PNG that is capable of competing with the "big three" at the RLWC?

We'll never get a better opportunity to grow the game in PNG.

Its a PNG thread, if you want to talk about tv value of perth there's a thread for that.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Its a PNG thread, if you want to talk about tv value of perth there's a thread for that.

I'm pointing out that your argument isn't about the principle. When PNG's lack of appeal to Australian broadcasters is brought up you use it as a reason to not give them an NRL licence. When Perth's worthlessness to the broadcasters is brought up you change the subject. You do this on every discussion about expansion.

 

[Perth Red]

I'm pointing out that your argument isn't about the principle. When PNG's lack of appeal to Australian broadcasters is brought up you use it as a reason to not give them an NRL licence. When Perth's worthlessness to the broadcasters is brought up you change the subject. You do this on every discussion about expansion.

Happy to talk about perths tv value, or of lack of, in the WA thread. Lets keep this one for discussion on PNG shall we?

In regards to PNG its lack of value to advertisers, cost and hassle of overseas production, lack of asutralian subscribers to ptv and its potential low drawing audiences are not just 'no value', they are possibly detrimental to the next tv deal. Again leave aside the govt money and in reality it is by far the least viable and valuable bid to the nrl. So all eggs are in one basket on this one.

 

[mongoose]

Neither will a Perth-based team.

People in Perth can afford and pay for Kayo or Fox subs, people in PNG can't. People in Perth can afford to buy the shit that gets advertised like KFC and Sportbet and Bundy Rum. People in PNG can't

I keep asking how are these people going to watch on TV and attend matches, or is the Aus govt going to pay for them to do that?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Happy to talk about perths tv value, or of lack of, in the wa thread. Lets keep this one for discussion on PNG shall we?

Yes, let's do that.

PNG has the advantage of being in the same time zone as eastern Australia. That means it will be able to host games on a Thursday and Friday night.

PNG already has a pathway via the Hunters in the Queensland Cup.

RL is the national sport in PNG.

Apparently there's financial support from the mining sector.

That's four areas PNG is ahead of the Perth bid.

 

[Perth Red]

Yes, let's do that.

PNG has the advantage of being in the same time zone as eastern Australia. That means it will be able to host games on a Thursday and Friday night.

PNG already has a pathway via the Hunters in the Queensland Cup.

RL is the national sport in PNG.

Apparently there's financial support from the mining sector.

That's four areas PNG is ahead of the Perth bid.

meaning the ninth game is going to be another unpopular kick off time every weekend for the existing teams

Yep, that has produced hardly any NRL players in ten years despite millions being spent on it

yep, but wont help pay the bills or build a competitive team in short to medium term

'apparently' lol

in your opinion

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

People in Perth can afford and pay for Kayo or Fox subs, people in PNG can't. People in Perth can afford to buy the shit that gets advertised like KFC and Sportbet and Bundy Rum. People in PNG can't

I keep asking how are these people going to watch on TV and attend matches, or is the Aus govt going to pay for them to do that?

The majority of people in Perth won't support an NRL club because they're indifferent to the game.

What's the point in sponsoring a Perth-based NRL team that's followed by just 10-15k people across WA?

Coca Cola advertise their product in third world countries like PNG. There must be enough people with money for them to make a return on their investment.

Why else would they advertise in these countries?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

meaning the ninth game is going to be another unpopular kick off time every weekend for the existing teams

6pm Sun AEST isn't an unattractive time slot for the 16 Australian teams.

It's actually better than 8pm Thurs AEST.

Queensland is the perfect place to host the 9th game during the early rounds. No daylight savings. Kick off would be 5pm Sunday AEST in Queensland.

Yep, that has produced hardly any NRL players in ten years despite millions being spent on it

They've produced a couple of good ones for your club. I don't see you whinging about that.

yep, but wont help pay the bills or build a competitive team in short to medium term

Doesn't need to when the Aus and PNG Gov is funding it.

PNG's love for RL is the reaaon the Aus and PNG Gov are throwing so much money behind this bid.

You're just salty and deflecting because Perth's indifference to RL is the reason the Pirates' bid is not getting anything substantial from the WA Gov. Tas Gov is throwing good money behind an AwFuL team because Tasmanians love fumbleball. WA Gov is providing f**k all to the Pirates because it only cares about fumbleball.

 

[Canard]

The only reason people could have to hold serious reservations about starting a professional sports team in one of the poorest countries in the world is because they are "salty".

What a well thought out and detailed rebuttal.

 

[mongoose]

The majority of people in Perth won't support an NRL club because they're indifferent to the game.

What's the point in sponsoring a Perth-based NRL team that's followed by just 10-15k people across WA?

Coca Cola advertise their product in third world countries like PNG. There must be enough people with money for them to make a return on their investment.

Why else would they advertise in these countries?

nothing to back up your claims about Perth... oh except for 9gem ratings and crowds from 1996