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Perth Red

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Papua New Guinea is all but set to be granted the 18th NRL licence with a team likely to be introduced to the league within the next four years.

The news has continued to cause controversy amongst the NRL community with much stronger bids from the likes of North Sydney and Perth all being considerably more preferred than the potential PNG team.




With the Federal Government set to commit $600 million over the next ten years to grow and develop the sport in PNG, the bid will be next to impossible to beat.

SEN’s Scott Sattler slammed Prime Minister Anthony Albanese for getting involved in the bid and worried for the future of the team if he was to only serve one term.

“I don’t think we need to give (PNG) an 18th licence,” Sattler told SENQ Breakfast.

“We definitely don’t need Anthony Albanese sticking his nose in the trough.

“If he’s a one-term Prime Minister and the next Prime Minister comes in and doesn’t want to give money to a bid of that nature, what happens then?

“You’re left carrying the bag, I think it’s fraught with danger.”

Sattler admitted he still wants to see the game grow in PNG and is in favour of the NRL aiding the development programs to provide more pathways for the locals to make it to the NRL.

“We can still keep taking games to PNG, what we need to do is inject millions of dollars into their pathway projects,” Sattler added.

“To be able to get not just (male) rugby league players but (to) build the female game up there, getting athletes out of there and turning them into NRL players.

“Not just rugby league players but athletes in all sports and canvassing them, then putting them into some sort of pathway to develop them into rugby league, the AFL has been doing it for years.

“We need to be doing it as (a sport) up in PNG and just keep taking NRL games up there.”

The North Sydney Bears have launched a last-gasp attempt to match the PNG bid, looking to launch a Pacific-based team including six different nations

 
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Blatant cronyism and sportswashing of this sort will result in some sort of fallout in the short term. Who knows how that'll turn out, but I can imagine that there'd be at least a few people in positions of power in places like WA who come to the conclusion that the NRL is an expensive waste of time for example.

Does that mean Perth Red will be whinging even more when Perth's businessmen turn their back on the NRL?
 

Santino Patane

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I forgot about your “Pride” designs. A great option other than Hunters. The splash of light blue was to represent Cairns, right?? Also, good to see your prominently yellow/gold displays in play. Can only wish my Titans grew a pair and made a gold away….

The first Hunters logo is pretty cool, I wonder if the NRL would be ballsy enough to go something so brutal??

Cheers for the update, keep em coming if you can be arsed!!
 

Santino Patane

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I'm not sure that things are as simple as everybody just moving on and pretending like nothing happened.

Blatant cronyism and sportswashing of this sort will result in some sort of fallout in the short term. Who knows how that'll turn out, but I can imagine that there'd be at least a few people in positions of power in places like WA who come to the conclusion that the NRL is an expensive waste of time for example.

The long term impacts have been discussed ad nauseam, so I won't repeat them, but this decision will have all sorts of impacts and unintended consequences for a long time.

BTW, it'd be worth it if they call the team the Cannibals. You know you want to you cowards.
I don’t doubt your points at all but the level of conversation around PNG in the media seems to have passed some kind of tipping point, much like it did with Redcliffe. I’m absolutely not in the know, but I guess it’s part of V’Landys’ MO to land these things like this- he is very cosy with the media (especially Sydney’s).

I’m not suggesting either that it’s a definite lock in, but if I were a gambling man, I’d say PNG would be paying sub $1:10 to get it.
 

MugaB

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I forgot about your “Pride” designs. A great option other than Hunters. The splash of light blue was to represent Cairns, right?? Also, good to see your prominently yellow/gold displays in play. Can only wish my Titans grew a pair and made a gold away….

The first Hunters logo is pretty cool, I wonder if the NRL would be ballsy enough to go something so brutal??

Cheers for the update, keep em coming if you can be arsed!!
Yes light blue and orange for the northern pride angle, but a mainly Gold and black jersey, i also think a lion would be less specific to just PNG and more representative of everyone as the pacifika moniker than the hunters who are the "png" team, where this bid has specifically outlined that they are moreso a pacifika team owned and run by PNG..
That city jersey the titans wore for a few games was pretty well made, looked great they should keep that as the home in my opinion
 

Iamback

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Yep, precisely this. There's a plethora of ways that money can be spent to tangibly improve the lot of PNG's population that's not a bloody footy team.

Except if it has a flow on though, That would be the plan from the PNG side of things.

Get more people going to and from the country to help pay for such things, I presume there will be a pathway system put into place?

Those teenagers need a few schools updated to do that, hell it might even make kids come to school to train.
 

jim_57

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Not a huge fan of club using the national colours but that’s probably what it will be. Hunters & Vipers already play in Red/Yellow/Black in the same city plus the national team, go with something different.
 

Jamberoo

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60 million pa is more than the yearly value of the super league tv deal and that’s to fund 30 clubs not one

these are huge numbers being discussed
Yes but that money is going to PNG, not the NRL. Not sure how it helps the other 17 clubs.
 

The Great Dane

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Papua New Guinea is all but set to be granted the 18th NRL licence with a team likely to be introduced to the league within the next four years.

The news has continued to cause controversy amongst the NRL community with much stronger bids from the likes of North Sydney and Perth all being considerably more preferred than the potential PNG team.




With the Federal Government set to commit $600 million over the next ten years to grow and develop the sport in PNG, the bid will be next to impossible to beat.

SEN’s Scott Sattler slammed Prime Minister Anthony Albanese for getting involved in the bid and worried for the future of the team if he was to only serve one term.

“I don’t think we need to give (PNG) an 18th licence,” Sattler told SENQ Breakfast.

“We definitely don’t need Anthony Albanese sticking his nose in the trough.

“If he’s a one-term Prime Minister and the next Prime Minister comes in and doesn’t want to give money to a bid of that nature, what happens then?

“You’re left carrying the bag, I think it’s fraught with danger.”

Sattler admitted he still wants to see the game grow in PNG and is in favour of the NRL aiding the development programs to provide more pathways for the locals to make it to the NRL.

“We can still keep taking games to PNG, what we need to do is inject millions of dollars into their pathway projects,” Sattler added.

“To be able to get not just (male) rugby league players but (to) build the female game up there, getting athletes out of there and turning them into NRL players.

“Not just rugby league players but athletes in all sports and canvassing them, then putting them into some sort of pathway to develop them into rugby league, the AFL has been doing it for years.

“We need to be doing it as (a sport) up in PNG and just keep taking NRL games up there.”

The North Sydney Bears have launched a last-gasp attempt to match the PNG bid, looking to launch a Pacific-based team including six different nations

Who would have guessed that Scott Sattler would be the only ex-player who isn't braindead.
 

The Great Dane

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I don’t doubt your points at all but the level of conversation around PNG in the media seems to have passed some kind of tipping point, much like it did with Redcliffe. I’m absolutely not in the know, but I guess it’s part of V’Landys’ MO to land these things like this- he is very cosy with the media (especially Sydney’s).

I’m not suggesting either that it’s a definite lock in, but if I were a gambling man, I’d say PNG would be paying sub $1:10 to get it.
This is irrelevant from the point I'm making.

I'm not saying that PNG aren't favourites to win the license, I've said for a while now that PVL is stupid enough to do it and the average braindead bogan that supports this sport is dumb enough to clap like a trained seal as he does it.

What I was saying is that the consequences of giving PNG a license will make it very difficult to simply move on from that decision. It'll be brought into question every time there's a serious issue, and there'll be a lot of issues with a PNG NRL side for a long time. There's a better than good chance that this will become somewhat of a political football during the next election for example, so whether we like it or not it's likely that we'll be stuck with the unforeseen and broader consequences of giving PNG a license for a long time.

If we're lucky either Albo will be voted out before it can get off the ground, or the clubs are smart enough to step in and try to smother this idea in the crib before it can grow strong enough to kick footballs around. . .
 

BuffaloRules

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Yes but that money is going to PNG, not the NRL. Not sure how it helps the other 17 clubs.

There is nothing firm yet to say how the $60m will be allocated…

Some will go to the juniors … no doubt… but I suspect that all the costs associated with the NRL team will also be funded out of this…

This means a free team that the NRL doesn’t need to fund so the ”pie” for the other 17 clubs doesn’t shrink…
 

Maximus

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It would depend on the breakdown of where it is from though, It may not be $60m of new money. Just directed to the NRL side

No, it'd still be over 10%.

So which of the below categories do you think money should be taken from to be spent on a professional sporting team?

- Accountability and governance
- Climate change and humanitarian
- Defence cooperation
- Economic
- Education
- Election support
- Gender
- Health
- Infrastructure
- Justice, Defence, Law and order
- Subnational development

I'm not seeing the part that talks about professional sporting teams.
 

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