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Perth Red

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Im hoping he's just bluffing to try and get the WA govt to put more on the table. Genius if he is, if he isn't and he's serious then strap in for what will be a fascinating ride!
 

Wb1234

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Im hoping he's just bluffing to try and get the WA govt to put more on the table. Genius if he is, if he isn't and he's serious then strap in for what will be a fascinating ride!
 

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Papua New Guinea Prime Minister James Marape will again be pushing his country’s campaign for an NRL franchise when he delivers a historic parliamentary address in Canberra next week against an intriguing political backdrop that highlights concerns about the PNG bid.
Marape and his Australian counterpart Anthony Albanese have been key drivers of PNG’s push for a licence as the NRL’s 18th team, with the ARL Commission expected to make a call on the expansion bid midway through the year.

Marape will become the first PNG Prime Minister to address Australian parliament next Thursday.
He is expected to raise the issue of funding for the bid from the Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade, which will be crucial if the NRL is to be persuaded to invest in the rugby league-mad nation. A $600 million investment over 10 years has been widely reported but is yet to be confirmed by the Labor government.

While PNG’s enthusiasm for the game and potential as a talent nursery is obvious so, too, is the logistical challenge of having a team playing in Port Moresby. There are also longer-term queries around recruitment and player development.
Violent riots that engulfed Port Moresby in early January, in which 22 people were killed, resulted in Marape declaring a state of emergency and intense criticism of his position.

The unrest came as an 18-month grace period preventing a vote of no confidence in his leadership expires this month. Several local MPs are preparing to call a vote of no confidence in Marape.
With PNG acting as Australia’s gateway to Asia, it is viewed as an increasingly important ally in foreign policy given China’s increasing influence in the Pacific.

That status was highlighted just this week when PNG Foreign Minister Justin Tkachenko ruffled feathers when he revealed negotiations around a security deal with China.
Rugby league and the NRL have accordingly been identified as a vehicle for soft diplomacy in the region, with former Canterbury CEO Andrew Hill heading up PNG’s franchise bid.
Hill confirmed that a “Papua New Guinea team with an Australian [training] base for an initial period is the cornerstone of the proposal”.
“Cairns is our preferred location for that,” Hill said, with plans for the team to fly in and out of Port Moresby for games by private jet. We’re working on a business case and financial model now for that.”
The NRL is considered most likely to expand to 18 teams in 2027 or after, with an NRLW side also considered a key component of the PNG bid.

Hill said a standalone PNG outfit was being pushed rather than previously mooted Pasifika teams or linking with an established club such as North Sydney Bears or Brisbane Tigers.

Sources speaking on condition of anonymity due to the sensitive nature of negotiations have indicated that the $60 million a year in potential funding would not be solely directed to PNG rugby league but would attract a significant portion of the money that was to be distributed throughout the Pacific region.
It has also been suggested that any funding would be delivered with stipulations as to how it was to be invested.
Master coach Wayne Bennett – whose tenure at the Dolphins finishes at the end of 2024 – has been identified by NRL chairman Peter V’landys as the ideal man to lead a new franchise, and has repeatedly stressed he is open to all offers from next season and beyond.

Bennett formally applied for the vacant Kiwis coaching role this week but has previously urged a push into Queensland’s western corridor to head off the AFL and has offered tacit support for a PNG team.
“If the 18th team goes to Cairns, there will be politics involved, but the less politics the hell of a lot better off a franchise will be,” Bennett said late last year.
“The logistics of a PNG team will be difficult. None of the Pacific nations have the infrastructure to bankroll or support an NRL team.
“It takes a lot of money to run an NRL team, they aren’t cheap… I don’t think a PNG or Pacific team is beyond anyone’s reach, but we have to do it properly and the right pathways have to be put in place.”
The NRL and office of Defence Minister Pat Conroy were approached for comment.


 

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Lol and I'm here too. A pure debate about establishing a rugby league franchise in Port Moresby is one thing and I totally would like to see it but there are so many non-rugby league complexities in the mix, apart from all the "violence" and living standards arguments already made.

Australia's "tied" aid to PNG for one. Their expatriate, ex-gardener Minister for Foreign Affairs comments about negotiating with China and who bought 40 Lamborghini's on PNG's dime for official use, for another. Even the media's portrayal of the country is ludicrous: that PNG is either the Gateway to Asia, only if you are hiking, or if you prefer, the Gateway to the South Pacific, just as ludicrous when PNG is Melanesian while the majority of nations in the NRL focus are Polynesian. As for PM Marape's last throw of the dice in Canberra before he faces a no-confidence vote at home, read into it whatever you will.

I feel PVL is playing political roulette and keeping the wheel spinning while he decides where he wants the loaded ball to land.
 
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Wb1234

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Lol and I'm here too. A pure debate about establishing a rugby league franchise in Port Moresby is one thing and I totally would like to see it but there are so many non-rugby league complexities in the mix, apart from all the "violence" and living standards arguments already made.

Australia's "tied" aid to PNG for one. Their expatriate, ex-gardener Minister for Foreign Affairs comments about negotiating with China and who bought 40 Lamborghini's on PNG's dime for official use, for another. Even the media's portrayal of the country is ludicrous: that PNG is either the Gateway to Asia, only if you are hiking, or if you prefer, the Gateway to the South Pacific, just as ludicrous when PNG is Melanesian while the majority of nations in the NRL focus are Polynesian. As for PM Marape's last throw of the dice in Canberra before he faces a no-confidence vote at home, read into it whatever you will.

I feel PVL is playing political roulette and keeping the wheel spinning while he decides where he wants the loaded ball to land.
You didn’t say the bid was dead due to the riots

it was like four so called experts

the same people who are wrong on every other expansion thread
 

Brian potter

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You didn’t say the bid was dead due to the riots

it was like four so called experts

the same people who are wrong on every other expansion thread
Hey mate if you’ve got me on ignore how will I know where to send your winnings to?
 

Perth Red

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You didn’t say the bid was dead due to the riots

it was like four so called experts

the same people who are wrong on every other expansion thread
yeh why let a little murder and mayhem get in the way of professional sport lol
 

MugaB

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Im hoping he's just bluffing to try and get the WA govt to put more on the table. Genius if he is, if he isn't and he's serious then strap in for what will be a fascinating ride!
Mate he's already said there's gonna be 20 teams, even if he only need 18... that already has kept other bids interested
 
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Maximus

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Where’s all the experts who said this was dead

including that pommie muppet

Still here. Just like we were 5 hrs before when you posted the same thing.

I guess it's easy to pretend the critics don't exist when you ignore them.
 

Maximus

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By the way, what has supposedly changed between last week and today? They were already considered favourite, with some rumours of potential funding, and nothing has changed. Still no funding and still no team if there is no funding.

I guess what wb1234's posts show is just how scared he was that the riot and murders were going to ruin the bid.
 

Perth Red

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Pvl just said they are favourites

so clearly not an issue
He also said Bears have 200,000 members and its the most asked question he gets! I wouldnt take what he says as gospel.

and no I dont think its made any difference, its not like we dont know about the massive social and criminal problems PNG has. This is just the latest example of the instability of the place. If a vote of no confidence gets up for the PM then they could be back in turmoil and lord knows what civil unrest could follow.
But hey RL will sort it out, and keep the communists at bay!
 

Wb1234

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He also said Bears have 200,000 members and its the most asked question he gets! I wouldnt take what he says as gospel.

and no I dont think its made any difference, its not like we dont know about the massive social and criminal problems PNG has. This is just the latest example of the instability of the place. If a vote of no confidence gets up for the PM then they could be back in turmoil and lord knows what civil unrest could follow.
But hey RL will sort it out, and keep the communists at bay!
Strawman

favourites means the riots weren’t an issue for him
 
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