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Wb1234

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Because it is a poor country with massive security problems. It’s great that they love rugby league but let’s be logical here. It is just unlikely that this would or could work.
Out of 17 million people I think they could find 1k rich people to bald the bid financially

man’s of course I’ll just ignore all the Australian mining companies who are in png who would back a bid
 
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Only a simpleton would think PNG is capable of supporting a professional rugby league team in the NRL.

It's no surprise that the morons who think PNG should have a team are also in favour of bringing back the Bears and think Sydney can support nine teams. These people just aren't very bright and don't understand basic economics.
 

Brian potter

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Only a simpleton would think PNG is capable of supporting a professional rugby league team in the NRL.

It's no surprise that the morons who think PNG should have a team are also in favour of bringing back the Bears and think Sydney can support nine teams. These people just aren't very bright and don't understand basic economics.
No mate, this guy is an absolute sports marketing genius. He wants to change the name of the NRL to the SPRL(South Pacific rugby league).
 

Iamback

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Only a simpleton would think PNG is capable of supporting a professional rugby league team in the NRL.

It's no surprise that the morons who think PNG should have a team are also in favour of bringing back the Bears and think Sydney can support nine teams. These people just aren't very bright and don't understand basic economics.

As opposed to Singapore
With zero Rugby League knowledge, Interest or infastructure?
 

Gobsmacked

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There's nothing PNG wants more than an NRL team!
Ok mabe a few things.
Health care
Food
Infrastructure

It doesn't matter how big of rugby league fans they're. There's no cash.
What would the ticket prices have to be for the average family in PNG?
$6 ?
A team in PNG is pure charity and I'm not opposed to being charitable but this is business.
 

Pneuma

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There's nothing PNG wants more than an NRL team!
Ok mabe a few things.
Health care
Food
Infrastructure

It doesn't matter how big of rugby league fans they're. There's no cash.
What would the ticket prices have to be for the average family in PNG?
$6 ?
A team in PNG is pure charity and I'm not opposed to being charitable but this is business.
You probably need to stop thinking of PNG as your normal nrl team and think more broadly. An nrl team could be used as part of a bigger process for solving a lot of these issues. If done logically and strategically it could provide the impetus for social change. PNG is fanatical about the game. Use the NRL team as leverage for a broader process for growth and improvement. Yes it would be heavily subsidised and yes it may require some interesting logistics but given the budget required to get the country on track, the cost of an nrl team would be a drop in the ocean.
 

Wb1234

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No mate, this guy is an absolute sports marketing genius. He wants to change the name of the NRL to the SPRL(South Pacific rugby league).
Yeh putting rugby league teams where they are crying out for a team and going for a place where we will always be tiny sounds smart to me

png central coast and nz2 would all be stronger clubs than any Perth nrl team
 

Wb1234

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There's nothing PNG wants more than an NRL team!
Ok mabe a few things.
Health care
Food
Infrastructure

It doesn't matter how big of rugby league fans they're. There's no cash.
What would the ticket prices have to be for the average family in PNG?
$6 ?
A team in PNG is pure charity and I'm not opposed to being charitable but this is business.
20 mill between Australia and png govt is nothing
Have a look at chinas belt and road taking over the pacific
 

Pneuma

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Yeh putting rugby league teams where they are crying out for a team and going for a place where we will always be tiny sounds smart to me

png central coast and nz2 would all be stronger clubs than any Perth nrl team
Brian doesn’t like me much. I think he’s cute
 

Pneuma

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Yeh putting rugby league teams where they are crying out for a team and going for a place where we will always be tiny sounds smart to me

png central coast and nz2 would all be stronger clubs than any Perth nrl team
I wouldn’t go with a Perth team ever. It’s an outpost full of fumble supporters and unhappy expats.
 

Iamback

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There's nothing PNG wants more than an NRL team!
Ok mabe a few things.
Health care
Food
Infrastructure

It doesn't matter how big of rugby league fans they're. There's no cash.
What would the ticket prices have to be for the average family in PNG?
$6 ?
A team in PNG is pure charity and I'm not opposed to being charitable but this is business.

How much of that over time could come due to a team?

The squad would very likely be mostly locals, $12m salary cap would be shared amongst their familes as is often the case with islander players now.

Hospital upgrade and education upgrades would go with that to support a professional side.

We send Govt Aid anyway. So could jointly fund those. There are multi nationals sponsor the Hunters. Digicel sponsor West Indies in cricket so have the means to up their support.

The fact they have government support is a good thing, without that I wouldn't be behind it
 

Iamback

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I wouldn’t go with a Perth team ever. It’s an outpost full of fumble supporters and unhappy expats.

Location is their biggest issue, It isn't viable to fly part timers to Sydney/Brisbane to play meaningful 2nd tier footy
 

Colk

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Out of 17 million people I think they could find 1k rich people to bald the bid financially

man’s of course I’ll just ignore all the Australian mining companies who are in png who would back a bid

Look I get the misty eyed view of this - I would also love a PNG side but I want it to be successful and at the end of the day you have to look at the positives and negatives. There are just so many more issues or factors to overcome than any benefits you can see.

Benefits
Potential player development - this is supposedly the biggest benefit although I would counter this and say how many players have they actually produced for the NRL. I can think of three of the top of my head. So I don’t really think it is certain that there will all of a sudden be an absolute stream of talent coming in. It’s a little optimistic at least.
There is interest - Totally agree. But how much can this interest be monetised.
Political benefit - It would aid our relations yes but to also suggest or infer that somehow that would mean that they are likely to reject financial assistance from China on the back of this is incredibly naive. They are a poor country so they are going take aid from wherever they can get it.

Negatives.
Australian TV wouldn’t likely want a PNG side. It increases their costs dramatically without giving much additional revenue.

What would advertisers want out of a PNG side - a lot of the country doesn’t have a lot of disposable income so what you would be able to sell them?

What about gate receipts? Selling merchandise? How would the population sustain this side

What about the infrastructure?

Where are you basing them? You base them in PNG then you have problems. If you base them outside of PNG then you have logistical issues . You have got extra flights and accomodation to pay for. Then you have the central issue of what’s in it for the secondary region.
Like for example what do say Cairns (as that is what has been floated) get out of this arrangement? They have to build a stadium and facilities so that a side that doesn’t come from that region play there for half the year. Why do you think people from Cairns will support this idea in say the medium to long term once the novelty wears off. Think of it this way: would you think of it as a good idea if say a Sydney side played half their games in Townsville or in Perth?

Safety - what happens if an NRL side refuse to play in PNG because of safety concerns? It happened recently with a QLD Cup side so it is not out of realms of possibility. Do the NRL put their foot down in this instance
Climate - PNG is just really hot. Much hotter than Townsville It would be oppressive for players.
Optics - you don’t think that this isn’t going to become a political football (eventually) What happens when other codes/sports go to the federal government and say well you’re funding this, why don’t you fund millions of dollars of investments for us in the region.

What happens when somebody (quite rightly) points out the government is directly paying the pay packets of highly publicised sports people- you don’t think that there might be pressure from other sections of the community? The same pressure will occur if the side is uncompetitive or there are off field issues.

What happens if and when PNG next take aid from China - people are likely to conflate the two aren’t they?

Also If it does become a political football then it can also become an issue for voters and if it becomes a negative issue and the optics are bad then it is likely that the government would drop the funding because of self interest.

Lastly, how is this team going to be competitive? Like how are they going to recruit decent players? How are they going to keep decent players? I don’t see how you could sell this as an attractive proposition.
 

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