PNG's back.

[Wb1234]

Not sure if this team will work long term or not but amazing to see the work being put in in PNG. It will be huge for the international game regardless. It's low hanging fruit, turn a fanatical RL nation into a highly competitive nation.

Personally I think if the same effort and investment was put into France, we'd have yet another highly competitive side.

Pommies don’t have the resources

toulose in super league will help

my dream is places like marseille and Lyon together with toulose and Peripgnan all having super league teams

 

[Coparugby]

League will be southern hemisphere code, while union will be choice in northern hemisphere. Of course, if NRL buys superleague they'll give that sport a run for their money over there..

You’ve overlooked rugby union in South America, South Africa, Madagascar and a few other countries where they get decent crowds and media coverage.

The NRL will own Oceania and will suffocate the Oceania rugby union player factory that feeds world rugby union with quality athletes. That will cause all sorts of fantastic problems.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Pommies don’t have the resources

toulose in super league will help

my dream is places like marseille and Lyon together with toulose and Peripgnan all having super league teams

Yeah agreed, I'm talking about the NRL doing it and actually landing some sort of French TV deal. It will be a minor sport still in France but has so much more potential than is currently being displayed

 

[Wb1234]

Yeah agreed, I'm talking about the NRL doing it and actually landing some sort of French TV deal. It will be a minor sport still in France but has so much more potential than is currently being displayed

Im still angry over Vichy

rugby league had overtaken union in six years

only good thing is French union is sending all the others broke

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

 

[Pippen94]

You’ve overlooked rugby union in South America, South Africa, Madagascar and a few other countries where they get decent crowds and media coverage.

The NRL will own Oceania and will suffocate the Oceania rugby union player factory that feeds world rugby union with quality athletes. That will cause all sorts of fantastic problems.

Yeah, Argentina & South Africa.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Why a $600m NRL team in Papua New Guinea doesn't pass the pub test​

• 
  
• 
  
  Darren Arthur, ESPN NRL EditorMay 31, 2024, 10:00 AM
  
  With reports surfacing that the deal has been done, people are starting to question the decision to add a team based in Papua New Guinea to the NRL. More precisely, a lot of people, particularly those from the non-rugby league states, are furious about the suggestion that the Australian Government will cough up $600m to help make it happen.
  

  The NRL has been searching for an 18th team in its next expansion move, with several contenders putting forward compelling cases. There is a bid from Western Australia, another for a second New Zealand team, suggestions that Queensland needs another team and the seemingly endless efforts to resurrect the North Sydney Bears in various locations. It now appears that the biggest thing those other bids lack is a geopolitical agenda.​

  The Australian Government apparently sees the inclusion of a PNG team in the NRL as an important step towards staving off China's advances in the region. Not only have China been making overt moves in the South China Sea, which, it has been alleged, threaten the sovereignty of its neighbours and the safe and free passage of international shipping, they have been gaining influence in a number of South Pacific countries. China has poured millions of dollars into island economies financing civil projects. Fears have been raised about some of these projects being turned into Chinese military bases, something all parties have vehemently denied. The Australian Government reportedly sees the $600m spread over 10 years to be a sound investment in regional security.
  Unfortunately for Anthony Albanese's Government, spending that much tax-payer money to finance a PNG rugby league team simply does not pass the pub test, not even in Queensland and New South Wales where rugby league is by far the No. 1 winter sport. With families battling an inflation rate which sits above the level predicted by the Government, with essential services crying out for additional funding, with more people now worried about being completely homeless than those concerned about home ownership, people just can't see the sense in it
  How many extra nurses could be funded by $600m? What could be done about the housing crisis? Who cares what influence China has on our neighbours, when the perception is that the economic powerhouse already has too much influence over and within Australia itself?
  Sports loving people want their favourite codes to thrive, they may or may not agree that expansion is a necessary part of success. Rugby League fans may not agree that a team from PNG is a good idea, believing there are more logical and more deserving locations. There are doubts over whether an NRL team in PNG is even viable. The travel time required of teams to visit Port Moresby, coupled with security concerns add an onerous and expensive burden to existing clubs. The flight from Sydney to Port Moresby is around four hours, from Melbourne it is approximately six hours, and from Auckland it tops eight hours. By comparison, from Auckland to Perth is around seven-and-a-half hours and Perth has often had travel times raised as an impediment to hosting a team there.
  
  The question of playing talent is also interesting. Will the new club rely mostly on locals, the players who have been competing at Queensland Cup level for several years now or will they need to chase talent from elsewhere and at what cost? If the Raiders have to pay overs to convince players to move to Canberra, what will it take to relocate someone to Port Moresby? The bottom-line question is will the inclusion of a PNG team strengthen or drain the NRL in the long run. If the plan initially requires such substantial Australian Government funding, just how financially viable is it?
  There are so many questions that need to be answered, but one thing you would find almost unanimous consensus on is that the new club should be able to stand on its own two feet, from the start, and certainly not be propped up by our tax dollars. Australians with absolutely no interest in rugby league or sport for that matter, can easily come up with better ways to spend the $600m, whether it be locally or in assisting PNG in more substantial ways.
  The NRL is yet to make a formal announcement on the decision and understandably the Australian Government is keeping its cards close to its chest as well. With a federal election on the horizon next year, it might pay to re-consider any decision it might have already made.

Why a $600m NRL team in Papua New Guinea doesn't pass the pub test

With reports surfacing that the deal has been done, people are starting to question the decision to include a PNG team in the NRL.

www.espn.com.au

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

Imo it’s coming out of the money allocated to the nrl club

the club certainly won’t be getting 30 million pa

Probably.

the club will do fairly well on sponsorships and club grants, so to gov money will probably be focused on facilities, infrastructure and the a financial guarantee in case the club is struggling.

but i doubt they will allow the club to run with that $30mil/pa built Into the operations costs

 

[final say]

You’ve overlooked rugby union in South America, South Africa, Madagascar and a few other countries where they get decent crowds and media coverage.

The NRL will own Oceania and will suffocate the Oceania rugby union player factory that feeds world rugby union with quality athletes. That will cause all sorts of fantastic problems.

Yes. The fantastic problems.
Like the quality of the All blacks falling so low, it makes Madagascar seem legit ..

 

[docbrown]

Honestly, if PNG liked fumbleball and an Australian government was offering to fund fumbleball in PNG, there'd be none of these hysterics.

PNG is a poor country.

Giving them $60 million a year in a different way (hospitals or schools etc) won't change that - they'd still be a poor country because $60 million isn't enough to fix all their problems.

Not giving them $60 million a year just keeps the status quo - they'd still be a poor country.

Giving that $60 million a year to Australians instead will barely make a difference to the lives of Australians - it's $2 per Australian per year. If you're quibbling over giving $2 a year in your taxes to people in a poorer country because you want to keep the $2, then yeah, you kind of are an asshole.

But that $60 million a year gives a lot of young people in multiple impoverished countries (PNG & the Pacific Islands), who otherwise have no hope a job, a reason to attend school and the hope that they can lift themselves and their families out of poverty. I'm willing to donate $2 a year to that cause.

 

[Éamonn an Chnoic]

Why a $600m NRL team in Papua New Guinea doesn't pass the pub test​

• 
  
• 
  
  Darren Arthur, ESPN NRL EditorMay 31, 2024, 10:00 AM
  
  With reports surfacing that the deal has been done, people are starting to question the decision to add a team based in Papua New Guinea to the NRL. More precisely, a lot of people, particularly those from the non-rugby league states, are furious about the suggestion that the Australian Government will cough up $600m to help make it happen.
  

  The NRL has been searching for an 18th team in its next expansion move, with several contenders putting forward compelling cases. There is a bid from Western Australia, another for a second New Zealand team, suggestions that Queensland needs another team and the seemingly endless efforts to resurrect the North Sydney Bears in various locations. It now appears that the biggest thing those other bids lack is a geopolitical agenda.​

  The Australian Government apparently sees the inclusion of a PNG team in the NRL as an important step towards staving off China's advances in the region. Not only have China been making overt moves in the South China Sea, which, it has been alleged, threaten the sovereignty of its neighbours and the safe and free passage of international shipping, they have been gaining influence in a number of South Pacific countries. China has poured millions of dollars into island economies financing civil projects. Fears have been raised about some of these projects being turned into Chinese military bases, something all parties have vehemently denied. The Australian Government reportedly sees the $600m spread over 10 years to be a sound investment in regional security.
  Unfortunately for Anthony Albanese's Government, spending that much tax-payer money to finance a PNG rugby league team simply does not pass the pub test, not even in Queensland and New South Wales where rugby league is by far the No. 1 winter sport. With families battling an inflation rate which sits above the level predicted by the Government, with essential services crying out for additional funding, with more people now worried about being completely homeless than those concerned about home ownership, people just can't see the sense in it
  How many extra nurses could be funded by $600m? What could be done about the housing crisis? Who cares what influence China has on our neighbours, when the perception is that the economic powerhouse already has too much influence over and within Australia itself?
  Sports loving people want their favourite codes to thrive, they may or may not agree that expansion is a necessary part of success. Rugby League fans may not agree that a team from PNG is a good idea, believing there are more logical and more deserving locations. There are doubts over whether an NRL team in PNG is even viable. The travel time required of teams to visit Port Moresby, coupled with security concerns add an onerous and expensive burden to existing clubs. The flight from Sydney to Port Moresby is around four hours, from Melbourne it is approximately six hours, and from Auckland it tops eight hours. By comparison, from Auckland to Perth is around seven-and-a-half hours and Perth has often had travel times raised as an impediment to hosting a team there.
  
  The question of playing talent is also interesting. Will the new club rely mostly on locals, the players who have been competing at Queensland Cup level for several years now or will they need to chase talent from elsewhere and at what cost? If the Raiders have to pay overs to convince players to move to Canberra, what will it take to relocate someone to Port Moresby? The bottom-line question is will the inclusion of a PNG team strengthen or drain the NRL in the long run. If the plan initially requires such substantial Australian Government funding, just how financially viable is it?
  There are so many questions that need to be answered, but one thing you would find almost unanimous consensus on is that the new club should be able to stand on its own two feet, from the start, and certainly not be propped up by our tax dollars. Australians with absolutely no interest in rugby league or sport for that matter, can easily come up with better ways to spend the $600m, whether it be locally or in assisting PNG in more substantial ways.
  The NRL is yet to make a formal announcement on the decision and understandably the Australian Government is keeping its cards close to its chest as well. With a federal election on the horizon next year, it might pay to re-consider any decision it might have already made.

Why a $600m NRL team in Papua New Guinea doesn't pass the pub test

With reports surfacing that the deal has been done, people are starting to question the decision to include a PNG team in the NRL.

www.espn.com.au

Haha, “what could be done with $60mil/pa?”

well they could increase HOSPITAL funding by 0.0005%. Think of the children!!!

what could be done about HOUSING?
Hmmm, we could give every person $2.60

And what is the point of maintaining a good diplomatic relationship with PNG?
I mean, it was obviously good to have an ally there when the Japanese attacked during WW2 and it is the only location on earth where a military power might launch a successful invasion of Australia. But wars dont happen anymore (except for all of those places where wars are happening)

solid

 

[Pippen94]

One thing we never seem to discuss is the branding. Do we think it will be the Hunters in the NRL?

It's up to PNG people

 

[Wb1234]

PNG albos

 

[MugaB]

PNG albos

Png Albatrosses, bwaaaaaarrrrkk,
I'll gladly forefiet my $2.60 to see that

 

[Brian potter]

Will the domestic digicel cup be getting any of the funding?

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Haha, “what could be done with $60mil/pa?”

well they could increase HOSPITAL funding by 0.0005%. Think of the children!!!

what could be done about HOUSING?
Hmmm, we could give every person $2.60

And what is the point of maintaining a good diplomatic relationship with PNG?
I mean, it was obviously good to have an ally there when the Japanese attacked during WW2 and it is the only location on earth where a military power might launch a successful invasion of Australia. But wars dont happen anymore (except for all of those places where wars are happening)

solid

If Australia is so concerned about an invasion from PNG then it should improve its military, hey?

A good start would be to build a dozen or more destroyers and nuclear submarines to guard northern Australia and the east coast. We'll leave the west coast unguarded because no one cares about that part of the world.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

It's up to PNG people

Pity they ain't paying for it.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

Honestly, if PNG liked fumbleball and an Australian government was offering to fund fumbleball in PNG, there'd be none of these hysterics.

PNG is a poor country.

Giving them $60 million a year in a different way (hospitals or schools etc) won't change that - they'd still be a poor country because $60 million isn't enough to fix all their problems.

Not giving them $60 million a year just keeps the status quo - they'd still be a poor country.

Giving that $60 million a year to Australians instead will barely make a difference to the lives of Australians - it's $2 per Australian per year. If you're quibbling over giving $2 a year in your taxes to people in a poorer country because you want to keep the $2, then yeah, you kind of are an asshole.

But that $60 million a year gives a lot of young people in multiple impoverished countries (PNG & the Pacific Islands), who otherwise have no hope a job, a reason to attend school and the hope that they can lift themselves and their families out of poverty. I'm willing to donate $2 a year to that cause.

It's up to the people of PNG to lift themselves out of poverty. Westerners didn't get rich by sitting around waiting for others to give them money. The $60m per annum won't do anything for the Papuans who live in poverty.

If fumbleball was given $600m over a decade to set up a team in a foreign country LU would be against it.

 

[Pippen94]

Pity they ain't paying for it.

Sponsors, backers pay for teams.

 

[MugaB]

It's up to the people of PNG to lift themselves out of poverty. Westerners didn't get rich by sitting around waiting for others to give them money. The $60m per annum won't do anything for the Papuans who live in poverty.

If fumbleball was given $600m over a decade to set up a team in a foreign country LU would be against it.

Looks like your following the wrong sport, and on the wrong forum then, maybe you'd like to venture over to big footy hey donks, since you agree with the coloniel AFL types