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Police recordings on Knights players

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A few things
1. I couldnt care less what your thoughts on me are
2. I dont like what the bloke did
3. I do respect that when he did something wrong, he put his hand up and accepted the repercussions like a man, he didnt try and blame anyone else, he didnt deny it... straight up, he did something dumb, admitted it, resigned from the club to save them further embarrassment and took 100% full individual responsibility.

In an age where sports stars are forever blaming their environment, denying they did anything wrong to begin with, bitching about the punishments they cop, or hiding behind convenient medical diagnosis or anything else their creative management teams can think of, someone putting their hand up and accepting he did something wrong and accepting the repercussions, deserves respect. He could have gone down any number of paths to try and gloss over it and ride out the storm, instead he was a man and owned up to his actions. Very few in the NRL have done that

Once again, if you want to respect a bloke who has relations with a dog with 6-10 people watching your obviously a very, very poor person.

Not only that, but your proud he played for your club?

All this considered worrying about what I think of you is the least of your issues!
 

Raider_69

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Not only that, but your proud he played for your club?

100%
quote that one too if you like.
Good player and a champion bloke who's dumb prank (anyone who actually thinks he trying to get the dog to suck him off is in another planet) cost him big time as well it should have.
Love to see him back with the club at some point before he retires.

Doesn't change a thing about what he gave to the raiders over the course of his career. Just as John being some junkie piece of shit doesnt tarnish his standing within the knights community. Or Matt Johns sex romp, or O'Davis being a drug cheat, or in 10 years time if his career continues in the vein it is now, i doubt you'll be to worried about Chris Houston once trying to organise 150 pills that should have landed him in jail for possession with intent to sell.
 
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Joker's Wild

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actually if there's a real possibility of getting them i'm pretty sure you'd get charged for trying to obtain an illegal item

people are charged and convicted of attempting to import drugs into the country even if the drugs get stopped in customs

Not if there isn't any proof of said illegal items existance

If the nukes are stopped at customs and have been linked to me then yeah, Im in deep poo doo. However, a recording of me asking for them alone would hold no water in a court case.
 

Raider_69

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again, you should refer to point one of a post above, i couldnt care less what you think. You're own fan base find you to be an embarrassment to them, im not sure why i should think you're someone to take any advise off considering you rate harmless prank which harmed no one over illegal drug trafficking which contributes to countless deaths a year and is an incredible burden on both the health and police systems
 

Willow

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Baroness, you're awfully high and mighty in the saddle there. Who appointed you the king of other people's opinions?
 

perverse

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the absence of a certain "n" in his name is the source of his power. find the n, find his kryptonite.
 
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Baroness, you're awfully high and mighty in the saddle there. Who appointed you the king of other people's opinions?

No one.

But its the decent and right thing to do, while ignoring such shanagans would be morally reprehensible.

I apologise if I am the only one that finds relations with animals disgusting.
 

Stinkler

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Not if there isn't any proof of said illegal items existance

If the nukes are stopped at customs and have been linked to me then yeah, Im in deep poo doo. However, a recording of me asking for them alone would hold no water in a court case.

I think you'll find under the anti-terrorism laws that asking for "nukes" is enough to put you away for a pretty decent period of time.
 

badav

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I'll agree that players doing pingers on mad monday isn't the crime of the century. The issue here is the way the Knights have handed this or just turned a blind eye to it completely.

Clearly they know or knew what Houston and probably others have done and chosen to take no action. Not long after this happened Steve Burraston got straight onto the front foot about how proactive the club was in drugs and the strictness of their drug testing policy and having Kurt Gidley (Gids) address the team about drug testing, sending an anti drugs message. Ironic isn't it? Why even bother with that chest beating proactive crap when you don't intend to act on any of it.
 
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perverse

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primarily because the mums that send little Johnny to his sport of choice on the weekend eat that shit up, badav.

blowing smoke up everyones arse, fine, sure, probably truth in that. however - we do actually have one of the best anti-drug programs in the country... he isn't lying when he states that. i don't know what more you would have the club do, other than sack its entire roster... and if you're actually suggesting that as a reasonable option then you're pretty braindead. i wouldn't ask it of any club, regardless of the scandel. the best management can do is punish from within the club (which no doubt has been dished out liberally) and do what they already have in promoting what we're doing to fix the problem. outside of that, there arn't a wealth of options.
 
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muzby

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No one.

But its the decent and right thing to do, while ignoring such shanagans would be morally reprehensible.

I apologise if I am the only one that finds relations with animals disgusting.

so on the scale of 1-10 for morally reprehensable, where does say the whole animal love thing sit, and where does claiming 16 premierships instead of only one sit?
 

Maroubra Eel

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primarily because the mums that send little Johnny to his sport of choice on the weekend eat that shit up, badav.

blowing smoke up everyones arse, fine, sure, probably truth in that. however - we do actually have one of the best anti-drug programs in the country... he isn't lying when he states that. i don't know what more you would have the club do, other than sack its entire roster... and if you're actually suggesting that as a reasonable option then you're pretty braindead. i wouldn't ask it of any club, regardless of the scandel. the best management can do is punish from within the club (which no doubt has been dished out liberally) and do what they already have in promoting what we're doing to fix the problem. outside of that, there arn't a wealth of options.

No need to sack the whole team, just the ones they know about, such as the ones named in the phone taps.
 

El Diablo

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I'll agree that players doing pingers on mad monday isn't the crime of the century. The issue here is the way the Knights have handed this or just turned a blind eye to it completely.

Clearly they know or knew what Houston and probably others have done and chosen to take no action. Not long after this happened Steve Burraston got straight onto the front foot about how proactive the club was in drugs and the strictness of their drug testing policy and having Kurt Gidley (Gids) address the team about drug testing, sending an anti drugs message. Ironic isn't it? Why even bother with that chest beating proactive crap when you don't intend to act on any of it.

jumping to conclusions

the NRL has a 2 strikes policy unlike the lame AFL policy that can allow up to 4 strikes before naming and suspending

any player with only 1 strike doesn't get named so you have nfi as usual
 
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Young adult men who earn upwards of $100K spend their money on recreational drugs at end of season parties?

Shocking.
 

Silent Knight

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No need to sack the whole team, just the ones they know about, such as the ones named in the phone taps.

Yeah that worked wonders for the Sharks didn't it? They made the "morally responsible" choice of sacking Seymour, Bird and Maitua and ever since they've languished outside the top 8. They have as much respect from the haters now as they did back then.

I can imagine you'd love to see Uate running around in Eels colours though. So of course we should sack him on the basis that his name was used in a phone conversation. The other clubs would be jumping for joy at our "morally responsible" decision. They'd be lining up with their chequebooks ready.

So thanks, but no thanks. We'll sign Uate up for life and he can continue to run over the top of Jordan Atkins :lol:
 

Stinkler

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HAHAHAHAHAHA

Reni Maitua was suspended for 2 years. Since he's come back at Parra he's been ordinary at best.

Greg Bird lied to the club. He lied to police. He'd been in a stack of trouble previously. The club had to sack him. They had no choice at the time. It was only after his Mrs refused to talk to Police that they case fell down. Is his innocent? Or just not enough evidence to prove him guilty? Most clubs would have taken the same action.

Brett Seymour was a victim of circumstance. Serial offender. Yes the last incident was relatively minor, but it was the last straw. May have been some financial reasons behind it too.

Shit analogy buddy.
 

Wato

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No need to sack the whole team, just the ones they know about, such as the ones named in the phone taps.

Why? Several players are named to be in each others company while Wicks search for the drugs but not named in taking part in the search i.e. Uate who is named to be in Houston's company but nothing else. To sack everyone mentioned makes no sense what so ever because that has no solid basis what to act upon.
 

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