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Police swoop on Sharks Donor !?!

Hanscholo

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A round of applause to the journalist that cracked the Zappia story. Sure there was a story there, but if they'd have bothered to even scratch the surface, maybe ask a question or two....you know what journalists used to do before youtube then maybe they'd have uncovered a real story.

Laughable all round really. Cant wait for the channel nein A Current Affair story about how seven were duped...its comin.
 

_Johnsy

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hey Johnsy


CRONULLA

Maybe I should put that in context. Cronulla need the end of the season to come and come quick. Have a clean out, get rid of the shyte, and I mean all the shyte from the club. If I am sick of hearing about them in the radio/tv & papers surely the cronulla fans are.
 

Eels Dude

Coach
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The bloke who has been charged has been charged with fraud in regards to cashing out his life insurance policy under faulse reasons, that is stupidity on his behalf and will bear the consequence.

That has nothing to do with, and is totally irrelevant to, what Zappia has alledgedly done with this money and so called benefit scheme. If Zappia invested or played with the the money illegally, then that's a criminal act in it's own regard. It doesn't matter how the cash was obtained in the 1st place.
 
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Eels Dude - maybe, but I'd like to think a vaguely competent CEO might do a bit of due diligence and checking up on the source of the money and the donor's capacity to pay what he says he will. After all its not every day someone comes along and says "here, take this sh*tload of cash off my hands".

Personally I'd like to have some assurances about the money and its legitimacy before going to the trouble of setting up a vehicle (the foundation) to receive it. Setting that up would have cost the club or Zappia personally a few grand (actually thats an interesting question for someone to ask - who paid for the establishment and registration of the foundation?).

And there is some possibility of the money having to be returned. While in general I think you have to have known that the money came from fraudulent sources for you as a 3rd party to be liable to repay it, there is some case law I believe that extends the liability to recklessly or negligently coming into possession of the proceeds of fraud, and applies a test of whether a reasonable person would have had reason to suspect something was wrong.
 

Ronnie Dobbs

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Gee, maybe Jacquelin Magnay was right when she said the $20,000 payment was the tip of the iceberg.

Magnay has been copping a hiding in the Sharks forum from none other than one Blacktip Reefy - and everyting she has reported has been 100% spot on.

That bloke is a disgrace.
 
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This club is a disgrace.

I dont need to say

"told you so"

cobain said it best in come as you are "memory......err?"

then he did it best to with a lead butterfly. cronulla, take note.
 

Slackboy72

Coach
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Magnay has been copping a hiding in the Sharks forum from none other than one Blacktip Reefy - and everyting she has reported has been 100% spot on.

That bloke is a disgrace.

Fom what I read elsewhere Blacktip Reefy is more than just a disgrace.
But I'll say no more as I don't want to hamper the chances of a fair trial.
:lol::lol::lol:
 

adamkungl

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Magnay has been copping a hiding in the Sharks forum from none other than one Blacktip Reefy - and everyting she has reported has been 100% spot on.

That bloke is a disgrace.

tbh she is deathriding the sh*t out of them. Every single article she's written in recent times has been about the Sharks, not one of them positive, and her source is a disgruntled employee. It's rotten imo.
 

Eels Dude

Coach
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Eels Dude - maybe, but I'd like to think a vaguely competent CEO might do a bit of due diligence and checking up on the source of the money and the donor's capacity to pay what he says he will. After all its not every day someone comes along and says "here, take this sh*tload of cash off my hands".

Personally I'd like to have some assurances about the money and its legitimacy before going to the trouble of setting up a vehicle (the foundation) to receive it. Setting that up would have cost the club or Zappia personally a few grand (actually thats an interesting question for someone to ask - who paid for the establishment and registration of the foundation?).

And there is some possibility of the money having to be returned. While in general I think you have to have known that the money came from fraudulent sources for you as a 3rd party to be liable to repay it, there is some case law I believe that extends the liability to recklessly or negligently coming into possession of the proceeds of fraud, and applies a test of whether a reasonable person would have had reason to suspect something was wrong.

I'm confused to whether you're agreeing or disagreeing with me. I think you're right from what I've read. I'm not going to go into too much detail... but Tony Zappia has acted ignorantly and illegaly from what I can see. If he's done the right thing so be it, but if not then let's hang him to dry.
 

natheel

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hmmm alot of sharks news going on recently i for one am sick to death of hearing about the sharks!
 

Slackboy72

Coach
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tbh she is deathriding the sh*t out of them. Every single article she's written in recent times has been about the Sharks, not one of them positive, and her source is a disgruntled employee. It's rotten imo.

What's worse? Her death-riding them or what she has written about them being true?
 

adamkungl

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What's worse? Her death-riding them or what she has written about them being true?

A fair portion of it has been pathetic. The Matt Johns incident never should have seen the light of day, it was investigated by the police 7 years ago, hardly swept under the carpet. And not paying a charity quickly enough? yawn. I'm sure there was more nonsense but I can't think of it off the top of my head.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegra...6799,25647842-5006066,00.html?from=public_rss

Gallop fuming over 'shermozzle'

By Josh Massoud | June 17, 2009 12:00am

SWIMMING legend Ian Thorpe has been caught up in Clint Elford's murky web of benevolence, which has dragged strife-torn Cronulla to new and potentially criminal depths.

Police believe the $30,000 donation Elford handed to the Sharks in February is the proceeds of a $500,000 life insurance fraud the 27-year-old planned to distribute to a range of charities and organisations.

After Elford was arrested and taken into custody yesterday afternoon, it emerged that:

HE approached The Ian Thorpe Foundation last year with an offer to bequeath a supposed $13.8million life insurance to the swimmer's charity. Sensing a problem, Thorpe's representatives reported Elford to the Federal Police about 12 months ago.

A CASTLE Hill-based lawyer reported him to NSW police last September. The solicitor, who refused to be named, allegedly told police Elford forged his letterhead and signature to claim insurance.

TWO doctors, based in Goulburn and Sydney, allege they have been defrauded, accusing Elford of forging their signatures and letterheads to claim insurance.

The Goulburn doctor, who also declined to be identified, also denied Elford was suffering Shy Drager Syndrome, the terminal illness he claimed would trigger $13.8million worth of life insurance.

It can now be revealed that Elford made that representation to several bodies, including a children's hospital, Oxfam and Waverley Lifeguards. There were also suggestions he approached Pat Rafter and Glenn McGrath's foundation.

But his links to Cronulla are of foremost concern, given former CEO Tony Zappia spent a third of the $30,000 he accepted from Elford in February.

Acting without the knowledge of his board, Zappia also set up the Beyond Sharks Foundation last August to receive the $13.8million life insurance he believed Elford would hand over upon his death.

He last night fronted furious Cronulla directors to explain the puzzling arrangements that NRL boss David Gallop branded a "total shemozzle''.

"Unfortunately this is nothing short of a total shemozzle,'' Gallop fumed. "I'm sure the Cronulla board are looking for answers and their fans need some, too.''

Prior to their talks with Zappia, several Sharks directors, including chairman Barry Pierce, met Elford at Rydges Hotel in Cronulla. The meeting took place as police executed a search warrant at his home in Goulburn, seizing Sharks memorabilia and computer hard drives.

But as he attempted to leave, Elford was met by detectives who took him to Miranda police station for questioning.

It later emerged that Goulburn police had begun their own investigation about a month ago, when insurance firm Allianz raised concerns about the authenticity of certain documents Elford had given them.

It is believed Elford received $500,000 as a result, much of which has been donated to various organisations that are now facing the possibility of benefiting from the proceeds of crime. Police said doctors alerted the insurer.

The Daily Telegraph yesterday spoke to a Goulburn-based doctor who treated Elford on two occasions - only to be informed by a Sydney medico his signature and letterhead had allegedly been forged. The Goulburn doctor said Elford had shown no signs of terminal illness.


"I first became concerned when a doctor in Sydney contacted me to say I'd referred Mr Elford,'' the doctor said. "I'd done no such thing. The referral letter was a forgery.''
 

Kiki

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I love so much that all the other organizations could see it wasn't legit from the outset but Zappia was like sweet! Money! Either he knew and parcipated knowlingly or he was willfully ignorant. What a mess.
 

Patorick

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fatshark

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well thank f**k Cronulla have nothing to do with it...only a stupid former employee is up sh!t creek.

what a weird looki merkin............^^
 

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