Possible new West Sydney Stadium?

[BunniesMan]

The Wanderers and Parramatta Eels are working closely with the state government to try and redevelop Parramatta’s Pirtek Stadium into a 32,000-seat facility.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...he-wests-capital/story-fngr8i5s-1226883131676

This is the only major sporting development Sydney will have between now and 2050.

And it's a much better idea than building a whole new stadium in a less central area than Parramatta.

Parramatta is the future heart of Sydney.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The NW rail link is an absolute joke with different sized trains to the rext of the system. Also BOF said we don't need double decker trains, typical Liberal merkin.

I thought the same thing but single deckers run fairly well in much bigger cities than Sydney. Pretty sure there's some studies that suggest whilst single deckers hold less they're more efficient because of quicker loading/unloading times.


Either way though at least its getting built.


I know my father was lobbying for it back in the early 80's for a development in the north west.

 

[Perth Red]

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...he-wests-capital/story-fngr8i5s-1226883131676

This is the only major sporting development Sydney will have between now and 2050.

And it's a much better idea than building a whole new stadium in a less central area than Parramatta.

Parramatta is the future heart of Sydney.

Could you realistically see wests or bulldogs or Penrith agree to play in parramatta stadium?

 

[BunniesMan]

Could you realistically see wests or bulldogs or Penrith agree to play in parramatta stadium?

Wests and Bulldogs are perfectly happy with their current arrangements considering the long term contracts they've signed. And Penrith insists on chasing it's mythical pipedream where they think there is somebody out there who wants a 500 million dollar stadium in Penrith:

The Penrith Panthers group has teamed up with developer Brookfield Multiplex to push a plan for the government to help fund a $500 million stadium.

The plan involves bulldozing the Wentworth Park greyhound track in Ultimo and building up to 700 apartments to raise money for the venture.

FFA chief David Gallop said rectangular stadiums had been built or upgraded in Brisbane, the Gold Coast, Newcastle, Wollongong and Melbourne but not Sydney. “But whether Penrith is the answer for residents of Western Sydney seems problematic ... Parramatta is the centre of the West.”

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...he-wests-capital/story-fngr8i5s-1226883131676

The option would be there if those teams did want it but they have plenty of other options to choose from.

If and when Parra gets taken to 32k the government isn't going to build another 40k thing down the road from it.

 

[duylm]

Badgerys Creek expected to be approved as Sydney's second airport

"If you've got an economic driver like an airport you can get infrastructure done a lot faster than having to wait with your hand out over many decades hoping that a government will do it some day."

Many in the federal Labor Party, including transport spokesman Anthony Albanese, support the proposal.

Mr Albanese, who was transport minister under the previous Labor government, says several major rail lines and roads will have to be built.

"The key is getting the infrastructure around the airport right," he told ABC Local Radio in Sydney.

This could make the parklands proposal more viable as well as anything near the geographically close-to-midpoint for Western Sydney of Wetherill Park. Possibly exciting stuff here people. Basically they need a new hub station for transport links to converge before going to the airport, and a new stadium can be dropped right there...

 

[Bulldog Force]

If it came down to a choice between Liverpool or Blacktown (which should be the 2 frontrunners), im actually more inclined to support Blacktown now....

- Panthers should never play a regular season home game further east than Blacktown, otherwise what is the point of them existing at?? They will still cater for their current locality and be far more enticing for those traveling from the east. Still operate out of Penrith Park to keep their traditions alive but this would be a better location for games.

- Eels should split between Blacktown (mostly) and ANZ (big games). Operate out of Parra Stadium or thereabouts to keep their traditions and play out of better stadiums...

- Tigers could definitely get support in Blacktown if they were so inclined, but they would be better off playing predominately out of ANZ.

The only problem with this would be that it would isolate the South-West, but based on this week and the last few seasons that not a huge lost. Still, to remedy this, base the Tigers in the neck of the SW (Liverpool or Fairfield) and direct a good portion of their community work and advertising down Campbeltown way.

I can see the benefit of building it in Blacktown - it'll be a $500,000,000 'up-yours' to GWS :lol:

 

[BunniesMan]

Seriously anyone who thinks a broke government will pick a brand new stadium over a Parra upgrade are living in fairyland.

A) There isn't any money for a brand new stadium. People who care about hospitals and roads and police and schools will burn the parliament down if they went that way.

B) Parramatta is a more convenient location than literally anywhere else in the west. The north west and the south west are the major growth areas of sydney. If you build this thing any further west or north of parra you disadvantage the southwest. If you build it any further south of parra you disadvantage the northwest.

It's an upgraded Parra or it's nothing.

 

[magpie4ever]

Whilst I wouldn't be surprised if there were corrupt people in the current government no such findings have yet been made.

Just give it time. Like piggies to the trough, my friend.

 

[magpie4ever]

Offarrel is light years ahead of the previous government.



At least we are finally seeing progress on the north west rail link , we also have a universal electronic ticketing system in place which the former government stuffed up several times. ( costing the state over 100 million with no progress whatsoever)



The worst thing the current government could have done is rush into several projects given the state of the NSW budget.

On well there is always true believers out there, either side of the political divide.

Take heed my friends, they are only in it for their own (or interests way above the average joe) interest, to led the sheep (general public) around for a number of years before passing the baton onto another sheep herder.

A poxy on both sides.

 

[franklin2323]

Seriously anyone who thinks a broke government will pick a brand new stadium over a Parra upgrade are living in fairyland.

A) There isn't any money for a brand new stadium. People who care about hospitals and roads and police and schools will burn the parliament down if they went that way.

B) Parramatta is a more convenient location than literally anywhere else in the west. The north west and the south west are the major growth areas of sydney. If you build this thing any further west or north of parra you disadvantage the southwest. If you build it any further south of parra you disadvantage the northwest.

It's an upgraded Parra or it's nothing.

Take a trip to Parra before you talk. No parking now. Now where around you could build it. No where to stop buses. They make it bigger it will be a nightmare to get in and out of. Kinda defeats the purpose or an upgrade

 

[JonnoM]

Its obvious Wests Tigers,Penrith and Canterbury WILL NOT play at Parramatta Stadium.
I think a 50,000 seat Stadium should be built at Blacktown Olympic Park.
Its well serviced by Freeways and Rail.In fact,it would not be that difficult to build a Railway station right at the Stadium entrance.
Also with Badgerys Creek Airport,infrastucture is going to be dramatically improved in the next 10 years.

 

[Panfas]

IMO a new Western Sydney stadium should be placed near Badgerys Creek Airport. There will be billions of dollars spent on infrastructure over the next decade. M7 links, train line from T1 western line to south west extension line.

You would have 2 full time tenants in the Panthers and Tigers. Bulldogs and Souths would stay at ANZ, while the Eels to say at Parramatta Stadium (pending upgrade)

 

[magpie4ever]

Take a trip to Parra before you talk. No parking now. Now where around you could build it. No where to stop buses. They make it bigger it will be a nightmare to get in and out of. Kinda defeats the purpose or an upgrade

And they only can go up not out, as there are restrictions from the Parramatta Park Trust.

It is a shit of a stadium, should be bulldozed and returned to parkland, Build a 40k seater at Blacktown/Eastern Creek.

 

[Bulldog Force]

Seriously anyone who thinks a broke government will pick a brand new stadium over a Parra upgrade are living in fairyland.

A) There isn't any money for a brand new stadium. People who care about hospitals and roads and police and schools will burn the parliament down if they went that way.

B) Parramatta is a more convenient location than literally anywhere else in the west. The north west and the south west are the major growth areas of sydney. If you build this thing any further west or north of parra you disadvantage the southwest. If you build it any further south of parra you disadvantage the northwest.

It's an upgraded Parra or it's nothing.

Seriously? (A) Hospitals (Health), roads (Road and Maritime), Police (Police) and schools (Education) all come from a different bucket of money than this stadium will (Sport and Recreation).

And if you were following the recent state budget, you will know that NSW is no longer broke. Doing it tough yes, but not broke.

Parramatta stadium only serves Parra, we need something south of that joint!

 

[duylm]

Seriously anyone who thinks a broke government will pick a brand new stadium over a Parra upgrade are living in fairyland.

A) There isn't any money for a brand new stadium. People who care about hospitals and roads and police and schools will burn the parliament down if they went that way.

B) Parramatta is a more convenient location than literally anywhere else in the west. The north west and the south west are the major growth areas of sydney. If you build this thing any further west or north of parra you disadvantage the southwest. If you build it any further south of parra you disadvantage the northwest.

It's an upgraded Parra or it's nothing.

A- they are looking at how they can save money in the long term instead of inefficiently upgrading individual stadiums with shorter life spans as is the case. Building new can often come out cheaper than upgrading. They may also consider it an investment if part of a business Park or residential project. There will be feasibility studies.

B- the south west is also much, much, much more heavily populated than the north west. I can't recall projected growth showing any changing of that.

 

[Bulldog Force]

IMO a new Western Sydney stadium should be placed near Badgerys Creek Airport. There will be billions of dollars spent on infrastructure over the next decade. M7 links, train line from T1 western line to south west extension line.

You would have 2 full time tenants in the Panthers and Tigers. Bulldogs and Souths would stay at ANZ, while the Eels to say at Parramatta Stadium (pending upgrade)

Picture this, it's 17-18 and your team has scored on the buzzer, and need to kick the goal to win the match. Your goal-kicker lines the ball up and is about to boot it from the sideline, and just as he moves in, an A380 flies right over the stadium to landsright next door at the airport distracting him and he hooks it.

 

[Panfas]

Picture this, it's 17-18 and your team has scored on the buzzer, and need to kick the goal to win the match. Your goal-kicker lines the ball up and is about to boot it from the sideline, and just as he moves in, an A380 flies right over the stadium to landsright next door at the airport distracting him and he hooks it.

The airport will likely have a NE-SW runway. So as long as the stadium is to the north or south of it, and would have to be out of the airport grounds so add a km or 2 there wont be an issue.

And how is airplane noise any different to the booing that the kicker gets? Please...

 

[Bulldog Force]

The airport will likely have a NE-SW runway. So as long as the stadium is to the north or south of it, and would have to be out of the airport grounds so add a km or 2 there wont be an issue.

And how is airplane noise any different to the booing that the kicker gets? Please...

140 dBA from an aeroplane is louder than a rock concert.

 

[herbert henry1908]

On well there is always true believers out there, either side of the political divide.

Take heed my friends, they are only in it for their own (or interests way above the average joe) interest, to led the sheep (general public) around for a number of years before passing the baton onto another sheep herder.

A poxy on both sides.

I'm not naive enough to think one side is right and another wrong.



But ultimately we have to choose the best option, not necessarily a good option.

 

[Blues Riff]

With the Badgery's Creek Airport going ahead as announced today, Penrith it is.
It won't be next week, but it shall be.