POST GAME DISCUSSION - 2019 Rd10 Eels 10 v Cowboys 17

[Gronk]

He attacked the knees/legs of a player who was upright in a tackle. It was dangerous and dumb (5th tackle penalty)

So how can we defend it ? @hineyrulz says we should. Cannonball tackle I assume.

 

[T-Boon]

Yep. Everything's either totally great or totally shit.

People are having extreme reactions to results because we have no faith in the direction of the coach and that is based in part on him being a terrible communicator with the fan base. He really just says nothing to us except "I am happy with the effort" which upsets fans who have watched the team get out enthused by almost everyone since the Bankwest opening.
When I see a BA press conference I can see why the players have below NRL standards of enthusiasm. Every press conference he has ever done was half arsed.

 

[Kornstar]

He attacked the knees/legs of a player who was upright in a tackle. It was dangerous and dumb (5th tackle penalty)

My only issue is that it was supposed to be outlawed but i see it every second tackle these days and was surprised that we got penalised for it.

Are you allowed to do it or not? Or is it just another one of those things that only we get pinged for???

 

[Noise]

My only issue is that it was supposed to be outlawed but i see it every second tackle these days and was surprised that we got penalised for it.

Are you allowed to do it or not? Or is it just another one of those things that only we get pinged for???

You can’t do it. What you are allowed to do is come in at the hips and then slide down to the legs / knees. Moses just went straight in at the legs

 

[Kornstar]

You can’t do it. What you are allowed to do is come in at the hips and then slide down to the legs / knees. Moses just went straight in at the legs

Agreed he did but i see plenty that go below the hips and nothing is done about it. Melbourne are the absolute worst for it but they’re not allowed to be penalised it seems.

 

[T-Boon]

You can’t do it. What you are allowed to do is come in at the hips and then slide down to the legs / knees. Moses just went straight in at the legs

I would get that tackle out of the game.
The vast majority of tackles involving 3 or more defenders the 3rd and 4th defenders are not needed except for the wrestling purpose. So make the rule if there are 3 in the tackle the attacking team gets an extra tackle (ie that tackle does not get registered against the set of six or whatever).

 

[Poupou Escobar]

People are having extreme reactions to results because we have no faith in the direction of the coach and that is based in part on him being a terrible communicator with the fan base. He really just says nothing to us except "I am happy with the effort" which upsets fans who have watched the team get out enthused by almost everyone since the Bankwest opening.
When I see a BA press conference I can see why the players have below NRL standards of enthusiasm. Every press conference he has ever done was half arsed.

He wasn't happy with the effort against Melbourne. I agree that's been our only poor effort this year.

You'd have to be a f**king idiot to think every loss is from a lack of effort. Sometimes the opposition is just too good.

 

[hineyrulz]

So how can we defend it ? @hineyrulz says we should. Cannonball tackle I assume.

It was a joke Joyce. We never defend anything. Especially around the ruck.

 

[T-Boon]

You'd have to be a f**king idiot to think every loss is from a lack of effort. Sometimes the opposition is just too good.

“Lack of effort” in my opinion is when the opposition out enthuses you. We have been clearly out enthused in most games. I just don’t get how that happens when you are coming off a wooden spoon season like ours.

 

[Gronk]

It was a joke Joyce. We never defend anything. Especially around the ruck.

Sorry mate. I get it now. You switched off the sarcasm for a while there. Good to know it's back though.

 

[hineyrulz]

“Lack of effort” in my opinion is when the opposition out enthuses you. We have been clearly out enthused in most games. I just don’t get how that happens when you are coming off a wooden spoon season like ours.

And 14 blokes playing for their careers.

Oh well at least BA is safe.

 

[Gazzamatta]

He wasn't happy with the effort against Melbourne. I agree that's been our only poor effort this year.

You'd have to be a f**king idiot to think every loss is from a lack of effort. Sometimes the opposition is just too good.

I recall commenting earlier this year that after many years of being inept in the play the ball area and ruck defence that we actually won the ruck. Im puzzled as to why this effort and determination has once again dissappeared.
Im a keep watcher but ive never thought myself a great observer of tactics. That said, our defensive structure this year appears to be accomodating greater width which has also been a major past issue. Could it be our poorer middle this season is a result of less compression of our line? Any thoughts Poo?

 

[hineyrulz]

He wasn't happy with the effort against Melbourne. I agree that's been our only poor effort this year.

You'd have to be a f**king idiot to think every loss is from a lack of effort. Sometimes the opposition is just too good.

The effort against Newcastle was very good, especially the first 25mins.

 

[Gronk]

The effort against Newcastle was very good, especially the first 25mins.

We have had 5 wins you know. Or do you only post about the 5 losses ?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

“Lack of effort” in my opinion is when the opposition out enthuses you. We have been clearly out enthused in most games. I just don’t get how that happens when you are coming off a wooden spoon season like ours.

I disagree we were out-enthused in any game other than in Newcastle and Brisbane. In all the others we at least matched them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I recall commenting earlier this year that after many years of being inept in the play the ball area and ruck defence that we actually won the ruck. Im puzzled as to why this effort and determination has once again dissappeared.
Im a keep watcher but ive never thought myself a great observer of tactics. That said, our defensive structure this year appears to be accomodating greater width which has also been a major past issue. Could it be our poorer middle this season is a result of less compression of our line? Any thoughts Poo?

I think it's definitely the case.

 

[hineyrulz]

We have had 5 wins you know. Or do you only post about the 5 losses ?

I was replying to the fpost from Pou saying all our efforts have been good bar the Melbourne game. Which as usual was horse shit.

 

[T-Boon]

I disagree we were out-enthused in any game other than in Newcastle and Brisbane. In all the others we at least matched them.

Do you mean Melbourne?
We were definitely out enthused by the Dragons for the first 30 which was baffling.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I was replying to the fpost from Pou saying all our efforts have been good bar the Melbourne game. Which as usual was horse shit.

I said Melbourne and Newcastle.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Do you mean Melbourne?

We played them in Brisbane.

We were definitely out enthused by the Dragons for the first 30 which was baffling.

There was one staggered kick chase, which was only really exposed because they scored. Other than that I don't think our effort was down. The Dragons started at top speed and ran out of puff (no pun intended). Nobody can give 100% effort over 80 minutes, despite the cliches. There is always an element of conservation. The trick is giving as much as you can without dying in the arse later on. This is what Arthur means by 'front loading effort'. You obviously don't want to leave too much in the tank early or you end up wasting energy backpedaling and scrambling in defence. It's a balancing act, and a big part of why you need experienced leaders in your team. These are the merkins who recognise when it's time to lift intensity and when it's time to slow it down.